Should Ronaldo's goal have been allowed?

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Can I start off by saying I don't actually really care about the answer to this, but did we get away with one?

I was convinced watching the replays that Lingard was offside, and then it panned to the ref on the half way line who seemed to be consulting with VAR for quite a period of time. I was shocked but ecstatic it was then allowed.

Can it be argued that it wasn't an obvious error or Lingard wasn't interfering?

 

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Jesse wasn’t impeding the goalkeeper’s view of the ball, he was pushed into that position and then did everything he could to stay low and out the way.
 

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I don’t think lingard was in the eyeline of the GK so shouldn’t really make a difference whether he’s there or not to the outcome.
On a side note it’s always gut wrenching when it pans to the ref holding his ear talking to VAR. can’t quite imagine the feeling of it had been disallowed after how much celebration there was.
 

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Yes. He's behind the ball when the pass comes. Lingard is out of the equation when he hits it.
 

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If it didn't count they should give a penalty then only reason he was there on the deck was because he was pushed in the back
 

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Lingard just tried to hide away from the ball but wasn't in the path of the ball (I remember when we played Everton and they scored a late goal that was ruled out as the shot was heading right for the player who was on the ground, but managed to get his feet out of the way for it to go in. That time the player pretty much interfered by being in the direct path of the ball and adjusting (thus becoming active) to dodge it. Lingard wasn't in the path of the ball nor did he block the goalkeepers view, so it's on. For me anyway.
 

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Cutch said:
I'm also seeing the suggestion that Lingard was only on the ground because he was tripped, so if the goal was going to be disallowed it would have to be a penalty. I cant find a good enough replay to verify this
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Penalty in the final minute, what could go wrong :D ?
 

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Cutch said:
I'm also seeing the suggestion that Lingard was only on the ground because he was tripped, so if the goal was going to be disallowed it would have to be a penalty. I cant find a good enough replay to verify this
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Lingard is not committing an offside offence. The review was sensible but the decision was correct. If Lingard wasn’t there the outcome would have very likely been the same.
 

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redrobed said:
Hilarious that it was allowed to stand but we take those.
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Nothing hilarious about it, the correct decision was made to allow the goal.

The OP needs to make up his mind. A tad interested or don't care. Either way such comment could have gone into the post Villarreal thread instead of starting a new thread.
 

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Could you imagine the absolute insanity of that being ruled out for Lingard being on the floor in the foetal position :lol:

I thought the first goal had more chance of being ruled out, and that was fairly minimal chance.
 

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Good to see individual ineptitude bagging us 3 points for a change instead of individual brilliance.
 

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Cutch said:
Can I start off by saying I don't actually really care about the answer to this, but did we get away with one?

I was convinced watching the replays that Lingard was offside, and then it panned to the ref on the half way line who seemed to be consulting with VAR for quite a period of time. I was shocked but ecstatic it was then allowed.

Can it be argued that it wasn't an obvious error or Lingard wasn't interfering?

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I think we should replay the entire game. UEFA take note
 

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always_hoping said:
Nothing hilarious about it, the correct decision was made to allow the goal.

The OP needs to make up his mind. A tad interested or don't care. Either way such comment could have gone into the post Villarreal thread instead of starting a new thread.
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I don't have to do anything :lol:. Just curious what others thought about it and it's an Internet forum for asking these sort of questions
 

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Probably offside strictly as it’s hard to argue he’s not interfering with the keeper when he’s nearly under his feet.
 

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If their keeper had been smart he'd have tripped himself over Lingard or just engineered some contact and made a massive deal of it, then VAR would have a dilemma. As it was, it was fine.
 

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Hah, just came to post the exact same tweet.

In real-time there’s no doubt about it. It is never being ruled out, because Lingard has no impact on the keeper saving the shot, due to its angle and speed at which it travels.
 

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Have to say it crossed my mind watching it live, but if Villa’s goal stood then so should this
 

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Doracle said:
Probably offside strictly as it’s hard to argue he’s not interfering with the keeper when he’s nearly under his feet.
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He’s neither touching the keeper, potentially making contact with the ball, or in the keeper’s line of sight AFTER Ronaldo shot. The keeper was in no way disadvantaged by Lingard being on the floor at the moment Ronaldo shot.
 

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I thought he was fouled in any case so cannot be offside for being fouled. Had Ronaldo not scored it should have been a penalty
 

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Dominos said:
Convenient.

I'd argue Lingard is more likely to be interfering with the goalkeeper than the Villa player. Either both goals or both offside.
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More offside than the Villa player having a bumping match with De Gea? :houllier:
 

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Offside was brought in originally to stop attacking players just standing with the goalkeeper and them having the ball hoofed to them.

It’s ridiculous that we’re now debating whether a player being felled by the opposition (not a foul and never a penalty by the way) and them subsequently trying to get out of the way of a shot is an offside offence. The games fecked
 
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