Agreed he looks a very interesting prospect and like you say, it will be interesting to see if he can maintain his current upward curve.
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He stopped being relevant as a coach when he got smashed by Barca and spent the next years unsuccessfully emulating them.
The man who is so incapable of compromising his system/tactics, he made us look like title contenders? Bold idea.
Unfortunately (and probably rightly so seeing we could miss out on CL) they wont have an interim all until the end of the season and get ten Hag. Potter would be interesting but it’ll never happen because of his lack of big club experience. So it will be Conte/Zidane. I’d wish they could give them a short term contract , but I dont think either of those would come then
Yes Bielsa has a system that he believes in. Took him 2 months to coach it into a 14th place Championship's side and turn them into the best team in that league with minimal investment.
FYI, if Pep was managing a team with predominantly Championship level players in the Premier League they’d look and perform the same.
Does he sign the players too? Cause I think Koeman does better transfers based on nepotism if Bielsa signed Firpo and James.
For me it’s very simple.
Who is the best currently, who can give us a good chance of winning something next season? Then go for him.
I was all for giving managers a chance to settle in and create their own squad but my patience has run out, we need to win something soon and whoever will do that is my pick.
We currently have a great squad, I don’t see why we have to wait another 2 season before we start challenging.
Who is the best currently, who can give us a good chance of winning something next season? Then go for him.
I was all for giving managers a chance to settle in and create their own squad but my patience has run out, we need to win something soon and whoever will do that is my pick.
We currently have a great squad, I don’t see why we have to wait another 2 season before we start challenging.
I’d guess he has major input. Can’t be signing £80m RW and £80m CB at Leeds so operates within a tight budget.
The recent mauling by Bayern aside, i’ve been very impressed with Leverkusen and think Seoane is destined to be a top manager. Might be a tad too soon to be considered for the Utd job.
Christophe Galtier is a very sensible suggestion and would be quite an unexpected yet astute appointment. Could actually be a realistic option mid-season as well.
Having managed Saint-Étienne for eight years at the time, I didn't know who he was until we faced them in our successful EL 2016/2017. After that season he left Saint-Étienne and has been doing what you perfectly outlined in your post. Galtier should probably has his own thread on the Caf by the way, with your post as its op @Martial'sEmergingSmile. @Damien please add Galtier as a poll option in this thread.
Galtier's track record is good, he is a proven manager and he would likely align better with us than most available options currently out there.
I also like Marco Rose (german energy coaching & pressing and so on), but the jury's still out and he's what I'd class as an unrealistic option mid-season, I don't think he'll leave Dortmund now.
Ten Hag is not really my vibe and yet another unrealistic option mid-season.
Conte is definitely available and it could be effective, winning, crazy, explosive and entertaining (he's funny) for a season or two…but he has a vicious cycle too and I'm not sure it's a good fit for us: https://www.fotmob.com/embed/news/6853631/
Regardless, Galtier would be the most logical choice and the one I'd back most.
Fun little fact: he is a childhood friend of Cantona.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...oach-christophe-galtier-returns-old-trafford/
https://www.skysports.com/football/...ntona-says-st-etienne-boss-christophe-galtier
https://www.football.london/crystal-palace-fc/news/christophe-galtier-eric-cantona-palace-13172128
A couple of pictures of Galtier at Old Trafford (from 2017) for visualisation purposes:
What Galtier and his team were doing on Sunday, a few hours before we got thumped:
https://www.fotmob.com/livescores/3625932/matchfacts/nice-vs-lyon
Overall: Galtier makes sense. He would be a fine (and kinda cool) choice. Therefore, it will not happen.
Don’t see why anyone is panicking. We have a Director of Football now. Our troubles are over.
Don't get why people are questioning Conte. We have many players he could use as wingbacks. But first and foremost Luke Shaw might need to shed 5kg before being close to the Utd first Team under Conte.
Laurent Blanc as caretaker until the end of the season. Then we will have a better run at several candidates.
Ten Hag is my top choice but clearly beating Dortmund 4-0 doesn't impress our board at all, therefore I am prepared to give Conte a chance to show he can bring that revelation season at Chelsea to Utd and yes I am aware he's explosive. He will certainly never lack passion on the touchline that's for certain and will proper drill the players.
Galtier joined Nice only 4 months ago, how is he a realistic option mid season or the most logical choice. I see the chance of Nice letting him go and him wanting to leave that quickly as slim to none.
Yup, anyone thinking we're going to get some promising young manager to come midseason is delusional.
It's either Conte/convince Zidane or caretaker and waste the season.
If the board wants to punt the season and not try to finish top 4 under some random ex-United player, fine, but the players will revolt.
I think Marcelo Gallardo would be decent. Not that we would be interested.
Do we have a RWB? Telles or Shaw on the left, sure. But not sure Dalot or Wan-Bissaka fit on the right.
Conte would likely make us much better, but I'd probably look for a younger 4 at the back manager and build around Rashford-Greenwood-Sancho as a front 3 with Bruno as a 10 and that group should be able to press with the right manager, as they're young and mobile. We need 2 new CMs behind them though, obviously.
Conte is the man we need right now. Ten Haag sounds good in terms of a long term appointment but how many of our players fit his style? His cv is nowhere near as good and we have a squad that should be competing to win now.
How many of our players would fit Conte’s style? We don’t have any decent wingbacks outside of maybe Telles, our midfielders are shit, and we’d only be playing two out of Ronaldo, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Martial, Cavani and Pogba.
Wrong time to be looking for a manager as the few top ones that are out of job don’t seem to suit us that well.
I am still impressed by what Potter has done at Brighton and think he could be good for us too but the position we are in right now, the pressure may be too much for an inexperienced coach to step into.
I am still impressed by what Potter has done at Brighton and think he could be good for us too but the position we are in right now, the pressure may be too much for an inexperienced coach to step into.
It seems like there are a lot more teams in the EPL now trying to do the high press thing. Leicester, Arsenal, Brighton in particular have aspired to join Liverpool, City and Chelsea. There are probably others I haven't picked up on.
High press is going to win you games. We are going to have to do it too sooner or later or we will end up outside the top ten let alone the top four. And yet we have the wrong coach AND the wrong players.
So we are in a much bigger bind than simply having a bad coach. We need Ten Hag AND a rebuild. After all these years of Ole building his thing, that's hard to swallow.
I've gone for Ten Hag because I do like the little a know about him. The other contenders leave me a little bit cold.
Zidane- I'm not convinced he'll be that impressive when he inherits a squad that isn't at a elite level. I think he could be found quite badly in the Premier League and his non-existent English can't but be a problem.
Conte- Elite coach but he's a one man wrecking ball. I don't fancy being back here in two seasons rebuilding again.
Potter- Solskjaer vibes. He's more experienced than Solskjaer and it is almost certainly a better manager but he's completely untested at this level. We've had enough of that.
Rodgers- I'm a big fan. I just feel uncomfortable employing the guy that Liverpool had to sack so they could go on and become successful.
Rose- Can't say a know much about him.
Mancini- No way. You can't be appointing the City manager who was in charge for the Aguerooooo game.
Poch- I don't see us getting him out of PSG before the end of the season.
Caretaker- I'm too scared. If we appoint Darren Fletcher as a caretaker, he wins 12 out of 12 and comes across well in his interviews then I'm very very wary we'll make the same mistake and appoint them as a permanent manager,
Goes without saying that, barring the caretaker scenario, every single one of those candidates is more impressive than Solskjaer.
Zidane- I'm not convinced he'll be that impressive when he inherits a squad that isn't at a elite level. I think he could be found quite badly in the Premier League and his non-existent English can't but be a problem.
Conte- Elite coach but he's a one man wrecking ball. I don't fancy being back here in two seasons rebuilding again.
Potter- Solskjaer vibes. He's more experienced than Solskjaer and it is almost certainly a better manager but he's completely untested at this level. We've had enough of that.
Rodgers- I'm a big fan. I just feel uncomfortable employing the guy that Liverpool had to sack so they could go on and become successful.
Rose- Can't say a know much about him.
Mancini- No way. You can't be appointing the City manager who was in charge for the Aguerooooo game.
Poch- I don't see us getting him out of PSG before the end of the season.
Caretaker- I'm too scared. If we appoint Darren Fletcher as a caretaker, he wins 12 out of 12 and comes across well in his interviews then I'm very very wary we'll make the same mistake and appoint them as a permanent manager,
Goes without saying that, barring the caretaker scenario, every single one of those candidates is more impressive than Solskjaer.
I have said it a few times, Luis Enrique is a far more superior manager technically than any of those on the list. Why are we not trying for him?
This. We should win a domestic cup with the squad we have (or at least challenging). No time to waste, we need to change our mentality. Need to win now.
He could play 3-4-3 quite easily, allows 2 from Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Martial for the wide forward positions.
I just don’t see Ten Haag happening and Conte is available now. How would Ten Haag handle the pressure, would he have the authority to manage this group? Conte has the balls to turn this around and is a certified elite coach.
World Cup.
Was Conte the mastermind behind Inter signing all our dross/deadwood? If we are going to end up re-filling our squad with those players to accommodate his pretty defensive football, I'm not sure if it's worth the punt - even if it meant an FA cup along the way.
He’d be coming to challenge for the title, that has to be the aim and he’s the only candidate to compete with the big 3.
His Chelsea team didn’t play defensive football.
Voted for ten Hag, but wouldn't mind Potter or Rodgers either. The only thing thing against Rodgers is the Liverpool connection. If not for that he'd probably top my list.
I think the safest bet would be Brendan Rodgers since he is used to the league, has done quite well wherever he has managed and plays a style of football that would suit us perfectly. He would also be willing to stay long term and is not self destructive like Conte or Jose.
The only negative as far as I can tell is that he managed Liverpool. He still would not be a match for the likes of Klopp and Pep but who else is at that level? He won’t make unnecessary demands and will work well with the players we have.
The other managerial options don’t instill too much confidence. Conte is brilliant but won’t suit our playing style and would self implode in a few years. Zidane has an excellent record with Madrid but somehow I feel he wouldn’t do too well in England. I don’t know much about Ten Hag to decide for or against him. He is still unproven at the highest level and if we are bold, we can gamble on him.
The only negative as far as I can tell is that he managed Liverpool. He still would not be a match for the likes of Klopp and Pep but who else is at that level? He won’t make unnecessary demands and will work well with the players we have.
The other managerial options don’t instill too much confidence. Conte is brilliant but won’t suit our playing style and would self implode in a few years. Zidane has an excellent record with Madrid but somehow I feel he wouldn’t do too well in England. I don’t know much about Ten Hag to decide for or against him. He is still unproven at the highest level and if we are bold, we can gamble on him.
Zidane and Ten Hag should be top of the list followed by Enrique but it seems like Zidane isn't interested, Ten Hag won't eave Ajax till end of the season and Enrique won't leave Spain till after the World Cup.
If that's the case then it looks like Conte is the one that is very much attainable but I'd rather we take a risk on Graham Potter instead and see how he does till the end of the season. If he doesn't do well then sack him and bring in Ten Hag
If that's the case then it looks like Conte is the one that is very much attainable but I'd rather we take a risk on Graham Potter instead and see how he does till the end of the season. If he doesn't do well then sack him and bring in Ten Hag
Hopefully we all wake up in morning and ole sacked or resigned.
Xavi
My priority list
1. Louis Enrique
2. Roberto Mancini
3. Zidane/Ten Hag
4. Zidane/Ten Hag
5. Conte
6. Potter
7. Pochettino
1. Louis Enrique
2. Roberto Mancini
3. Zidane/Ten Hag
4. Zidane/Ten Hag
5. Conte
6. Potter
7. Pochettino
@Damien can we add Luis Enrique to the poll? I thought I’m the only one who wants him as my first choice but seems like a few people are thinking along the same lines.
Not sure how realistic he is.
Not sure how realistic he is.
From what's been reported, Enrique's dream job was to be the Head Coach of the Spanish NT. I doubt we're gonna be able to lure him if that is the case.
If his Lille setup similar to ours, why is that a plus point for him getting the job when our performances are clearly terrible with the same setup?
I wish we could get Luis Enrique but I feel he is Man City Bound.
Man City board seemed like they wanted to copy Barcelona during their best years so went after Pep and probably will replace him with Enrique like had happened in La Liga. I think the contracts are lining up too with Pep talking about leaving 2023 and Enrique finishing his tournament by then.
Zidane would have been good - you do wonder why he doesn't have a bit of hype in his heart to manage in the PL considering the competition; but maybe he just doesn't feel that interested to United. Maybe he would also come to the PL when the competition is more dull and easier to win for himself.
Ten Hag is probably the young cool name we give a chance to and hope for the best with the ability to play some new tactical football (new modern goalkeeper for a simple example) and the use of our own youngsters - hoping he could also try an entice a player like De Jong from Barcelona over here.
Conte seems very short term, no high expectations (no CL), just a PL but at the same time you got to go with some damage limitations during his tenure. Some positives and negatives.
Man City board seemed like they wanted to copy Barcelona during their best years so went after Pep and probably will replace him with Enrique like had happened in La Liga. I think the contracts are lining up too with Pep talking about leaving 2023 and Enrique finishing his tournament by then.
Zidane would have been good - you do wonder why he doesn't have a bit of hype in his heart to manage in the PL considering the competition; but maybe he just doesn't feel that interested to United. Maybe he would also come to the PL when the competition is more dull and easier to win for himself.
Ten Hag is probably the young cool name we give a chance to and hope for the best with the ability to play some new tactical football (new modern goalkeeper for a simple example) and the use of our own youngsters - hoping he could also try an entice a player like De Jong from Barcelona over here.
Conte seems very short term, no high expectations (no CL), just a PL but at the same time you got to go with some damage limitations during his tenure. Some positives and negatives.
Generally speaking I would be for a modern and tactically sound manager like Ten Hag or even risk giving it to someone like Jaissle and give them enough time.
That being said our squad needs someone who pushes them and drills them to get their attitude right. Someone who is not afraid to go against the big egos in case they do not fit in the bigger picture.
Therefore I would not be against giving Conte a contract until the end of the season with option to extend.
We should not make the mistake to spend any money in the winter break. If he does a decent job he should be backed next summer but also be ruthless getting rid of a lot of players who he sees not being good enough or not fitting his system.
That being said our squad needs someone who pushes them and drills them to get their attitude right. Someone who is not afraid to go against the big egos in case they do not fit in the bigger picture.
Therefore I would not be against giving Conte a contract until the end of the season with option to extend.
We should not make the mistake to spend any money in the winter break. If he does a decent job he should be backed next summer but also be ruthless getting rid of a lot of players who he sees not being good enough or not fitting his system.
I'm in the same boat. We need some structure at the back and Conte can organize teams very well. I wouldn't be against signing one CDM in the winter window though.
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