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Sky sports and daily telegraph saying Poch is target no1 and ten hag target no2.
It is about time our board got to their damn sense. I am so positive that Pochettino if he comes to Manchester United, he will return us to glory. I can even be quoted on it. The only problem is that, psg might not want to let him go, if he continues to do well with them. Regardless, even if he doesn't reach the final of the champion league, we can look at tuchel and hope that psg make a irrational decision and let him go.
 

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Agree with the last two but part of me is intrigued to see what he can do given a proper budget. Ten Hag would still be my top choice though without any doubt
Same here! I’m hoping with every fiber of my being that the board thinks same.

As for Poch, I’m not completely sold on him. He’s a good manager but lately his football doesn’t really excite me, it’s not bad but it’s more of meh to me.
 

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Always been a fan of his.
He hasn't set the world alight at PSG but he's definitely going to win the league this season. The CL will be difficult for any coach when your front three decide they have no business trying to win the ball back. That said, they should be playing better.
Preference is Ten Hag though. Think the team would take longer to adjust to his positional play but the ceiling is higher.
 

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Sky sports and daily telegraph saying Poch is target no1 and ten hag target no2.
Ten Hag would be number one but Poch would be a very close second for me. A lot on here don’t rate him highly enough but the guy knows what he’s doing and our football would be light years ahead of the crap we’ve been served up.
 

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Whenever I watch PSG under him I'm just underwhelmed by the football I see. I know its a tough job, but also people seem to want to underrate their squad to give him an out. I thought he was meant to excel with making good with what he's got, isn't that what he did at Spurs?

Plus the squad really isn't that bad, this weird notion that every position needs a world class player is utter FIFA nonsense.

I'm intrigued to see how it goes in the CL again, because I don't know how much you can learn from league form, unless it's dreadful.
 

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Whenever I watch PSG under him I'm just underwhelmed by the football I see. I know its a tough job, but also people seem to want to underrate their squad to give him an out. I thought he was meant to excel with making good with what he's got, isn't that what he did at Spurs?

Plus the squad really isn't that bad, this weird notion that every position needs a world class player is utter FIFA nonsense.

I'm intrigued to see how it goes in the CL again, because I don't know how much you can learn from league form, unless it's dreadful.
I always thought his football at Spurs was underwhelming as well.
 

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I always thought his football at Spurs was underwhelming as well.
Yeah, it's energetic and organized but it's not great technical football. I don't really know why people have great football as a descriptor of Pochettino.
 

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Whenever I watch PSG under him I'm just underwhelmed by the football I see. I know its a tough job, but also people seem to want to underrate their squad to give him an out. I thought he was meant to excel with making good with what he's got, isn't that what he did at Spurs?

Plus the squad really isn't that bad, this weird notion that every position needs a world class player is utter FIFA nonsense.

I'm intrigued to see how it goes in the CL again, because I don't know how much you can learn from league form, unless it's dreadful.
Its a bad appointment by PSG, same as it was with Tuchel.

PSG are caught between two ideas. They can see that in the CL they're out organised and out pressed by teams like City & Bayern, so they go for systems type managers who could implement that style of play. But they can't bring themselves to build a first team that that can actually do it, they're too hooked into star names. So we get the absurd marriage of a manager known for high pressing hard working front lines trying to work with Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, probably the least hard working front line in high level football.

PSG should just continue with the kind of managers they had in the past - Ancelotti/Blanc types - who will get a tune of what they've got and just find a formation and style to suit those players. Zidane would be perfect. They need to forget the systems managers, no matter how trendy they are, PSG just aren't prepared to do what it takes to build a team to match.

As for Poch, you can't blame him going for a job like PSG in way, but in all honesty it was a bad move and the Messi purchase made it harder to play like he wants. I wouldn't personally read too much into his time at PSG, I don't believe for one second that the team is anything like how he wants. I suspect his plan would just be to take the league win for his CV this season, cross his fingers in the CL, then leave in the summer for a club more in tune with how he sees the game.
 

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Someone might show up his net spent to the Glazers and they will find him perfect for their goals.
 

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Pochettino would be a very underwhelming choice. He hasn't won ANYTHING, his biggest achievement was a lucky CL final run. Hell he couldn't even win Ligue 1 with PSG. His football is dire and he doesn't develop young players.

So yeah, naturally the Utd board will go for him.
 

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Yeah, it's energetic and organized but it's not great technical football. I don't really know why people have great football as a descriptor of Pochettino.
I think people just fall in love with the idea/narrative of a certain manager and get too starry eyed about everything about them.
 

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Pochettino would be a very underwhelming choice. He hasn't won ANYTHING, his biggest achievement was a lucky CL final run. Hell he couldn't even win Ligue 1 with PSG. His football is dire and he doesn't develop young players.

So yeah, naturally the Utd board will go for him.
I think his biggest achievement was taking Spurs to the last week of the title run in.
The first manager I saw in English football to play the high pressing game and he did it with two different clubs.
 

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Its a bad appointment by PSG, same as it was with Tuchel.

PSG are caught between two ideas. They can see that in the CL they're out organised and out pressed by teams like City & Bayern, so they go for systems type managers who could implement that style of play. But they can't bring themselves to build a first team that that can actually do it, they're too hooked into star names. So we get the absurd marriage of a manager known for high pressing hard working front lines trying to work with Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, probably the least hard working front line in high level football.

PSG should just continue with the kind of managers they had in the past - Ancelotti/Blanc types - who will get a tune of what they've got and just find a formation and style to suit those players. Zidane would be perfect. They need to forget the systems managers, no matter how trendy they are, PSG just aren't prepared to do what it takes to build a team to match.

As for Poch, you can't blame him going for a job like PSG in way, but in all honesty it was a bad move and the Messi purchase made it harder to play like he wants. I wouldn't personally read too much into his time at PSG, I don't believe for one second that the team is anything like how he wants. I suspect his plan would just be to take the league win for his CV this season, cross his fingers in the CL, then leave in the summer for a club more in tune with how he sees the game.
Good post
 

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I've never been sold on him and never got why there's so much hype around the guy but he's a better option than some other mentioned names I guess.
 

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Poch's spurs team at their peak were an impressive outfit. Their CL games against Juventus were great. Well drilled and disciplined and pressed hard. Fitness wise the Spurs players were super fit. They are getting back to Poch levels of fitness again under Conte according to some quotes from players there.

Personally would be delighted with either Poch or Ten Hag.
 

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What is his brand of football? I rarely watch anything but United.
 

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Bottled the league title to Leicester and bottled the CL final. Would hardly be the most exciting hire.
 

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What is his brand of football? I rarely watch anything but United.
High line, aggressive pressing, fullbacks higher up the pitch, almost like extra wingers and a workman like midfield. I can see him playing a back three and using Dalot/Shaw or Telles as his preferred fullbacks and Wan Bissaka as a right sided center back.
 

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What is his brand of football? I rarely watch anything but United.
It's essentially based on how they play without the ball, his teams are compact, press aggressively and relatively high. They then transition quickly and try to exploit the mistake they forced. If the opposition is in a deep block and well positioned, he has no answer.
 

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It's essentially based on how they play without the ball, his teams are compact, press aggressively and relatively high. They then transition quickly and try to exploit the mistake they forced. If the opposition is in a deep block and well positioned, he has no answer.

 

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I've gone from being a Pochettino sceptic to a Pochettino partisan in the space of 12 hours. That's what the club being seriously linked with Brentan has done to me.

It's essentially based on how they play without the ball, his teams are compact, press aggressively and relatively high. They then transition quickly and try to exploit the mistake they forced. If the opposition is in a deep block and well positioned, he has no answer.
This feels eerily familiar... :lol:
 

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Pochettino would be a very underwhelming choice. He hasn't won ANYTHING, his biggest achievement was a lucky CL final run. Hell he couldn't even win Ligue 1 with PSG. His football is dire and he doesn't develop young players.

So yeah, naturally the Utd board will go for him.
He came in January to PSG when they were 3rd, he finished 2nd. This year they are 1st and 11 points clear after 14 games. Unbeaten in their CL group, which is a fairly tough group (includes City).

He's not quite the disaster you are trying to make out. And that's without mentioning his time in the PL with Spurs, who did nothing of note before or after Poch but did look good under him.
 

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Bottled the league title to Leicester and bottled the CL final. Would hardly be the most exciting hire.
Do you know what Bottled means?

That Liverpool team was one of the best in Europe. How is that bottled? They were clear underdogs going into the final?
 

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Do you know what Bottled means?

That Liverpool team was one of the best in Europe. How is that bottled? They were clear underdogs going into the final?
Liverpool played pretty poorly that night. I would argue the occasion got to both teams and they both looked nervous. If Spurs didn’t feck it all up in the first 30 seconds I think there was a decent chance they beat Liverpool.

This said, you can’t really attribute the stupid penalty in the first minute to Pochettino. You could only argue that he didn’t adapt well enough to going 1-0 down.
 

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He came in January to PSG when they were 3rd, he finished 2nd. This year they are 1st and 11 points clear after 14 games. Unbeaten in their CL group, which is a fairly tough group (includes City).

He's not quite the disaster you are trying to make out. And that's without mentioning his time in the PL with Spurs, who did nothing of note before or after Poch but did look good under him.
He also beat Barca and Bayern last season in the UCL to reach the semi finals.
 

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Bottled the league title to Leicester and bottled the CL final. Would hardly be the most exciting hire.
Haha. I love how people post this nonsense without the disclaimer that it was fecking Spurs.

Some people here must be pretty young if they don’t remember the state Spurs have been in for most of the last 30 years. Yeah ‘Arry got them going for a bit but that was on the back of two world class players.

Poch built a title contending team almost from scratch while being outspent by 6 different clubs. He had a higher net spend when he was with Southampton ffs and went into the 18/19 season with a lower net spend through his tenure than Stoke City but yeah that Champions League final was a huge failure.

Jesus Christ.
 

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Do you know what Bottled means?

That Liverpool team was one of the best in Europe. How is that bottled? They were clear underdogs going into the final?
It was about as pitiful a performance as I can remember in a CL final.
 

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Haha. I love how people post this nonsense without the disclaimer that it was fecking Spurs.

Some people here must be pretty young if they don’t remember the state Spurs have been in for most of the last 30 years. Yeah ‘Arry got them going for a bit but that was on the back of two world class players.

Poch built a title contending team almost from scratch while being outspent by 6 different clubs. He had a higher net spend when he was with Southampton ffs and went into the 18/19 season with a lower net spend through his tenure than Stoke City but yeah that Champions League final was a huge failure.

Jesus Christ.
Dunno, but they lost the title to "fecking Leicester".
 

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He came in January to PSG when they were 3rd, he finished 2nd. This year they are 1st and 11 points clear after 14 games. Unbeaten in their CL group, which is a fairly tough group (includes City).

He's not quite the disaster you are trying to make out. And that's without mentioning his time in the PL with Spurs, who did nothing of note before or after Poch but did look good under him.
Yeah but why be rational when you can be sensationalist and type ANYTHING in capital letters despite it being factually incorrect?
 

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Dunno, but they lost the title to "fecking Leicester".
As did every team in the league. Not sure why Leicester wildly overachieving means Spurs underachieved. Nonsensical. They were never once in pole position for the title either so they bottled nothing.
 

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Liverpool played pretty poorly that night. I would argue the occasion got to both teams and they both looked nervous. If Spurs didn’t feck it all up in the first 30 seconds I think there was a decent chance they beat Liverpool.

This said, you can’t really attribute the stupid penalty in the first minute to Pochettino. You could only argue that he didn’t adapt well enough to going 1-0 down.

Agreed, he didn't really change it and adapt but hardly a stick to beat a man with. That was one of the best Liverpool teams of this generation.

He got Spurs competing in various competitions. He didn't get the trophies, he will probably win the French title this season. That doesn't change much about his managerial ability though.

He showed with Spurs he can take a team to new heights but he is also showing signs that he struggles with managing the PSG team.
 

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Why does our board have such a hard on for Pochettino? Going by reports in the media, he's like their cream of the crop... when in reality he's just nowhere near the great managers of today.
 

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The appeal of Poch mystifies me tbh. Him being linked with us fills me with disappointment more than anything else.

What has he done?
 

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Yeah, it's energetic and organized but it's not great technical football. I don't really know why people have great football as a descriptor of Pochettino.
Energetic and organisation would be a dream for this team right now though. He’s a vast improvement on what we have/had and the fact the club (SAF in particular) are long term admirers it almost seems inevitable now.

After the last 8 years I honestly don’t know who is the best candidate.
 

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Poch and Ten Hag would both be good appointments. I think the mystery of the latter is what appeals to me - he could genuinely be the next big thing whilst I think we know Poch isn’t at the level of Klopp and Pep. Both exactly the profile we should be looking at though. I think it’s very unfair to judge him on not making a PSG team stacked with individual talent a cohesive unit - it’s a nigh on impossible job to make that front 3 look a perfectly balanced side. They’re on course for a 100 plus points season though and beat City in the CL plus got to the semis last year beating Bayern…he hasn’t done that bad a job has he?
 

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We need a manager who has no past affiliation with another PL club that we absolutely and utterly despise e.g., Liverpool, it brings unnecessary media scrutiny etc, we need to wipe the slate clean.
Fixed it for you.

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Would 100% prefer Ten Hag over Poch.

That decision to play a semi-fit Kane over an in form Moura in the CL final, the guy who got them there in the first place, was absolutely criminal and I lost a lot of respect for him that night.

Ten Hag strikes me as someone emotionally detached who can see the bigger picture better and if need be, wouldn't think twice about dropping a big name for the betterment of the team on any given matchday, i.e. Ronaldo.
 
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