I’ve just read that Arsenal have agreed a few with City for Jesus.
All of our rivals are strengthening and we are standing still.
All of our rivals are strengthening and we are standing still.
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I think that with our current squad and promoting some of the youngsters we have a good enough team to finish top 6. Even if we go out and spend 150-200M there is no guarantee we will finish top 4, so to give ETH a season to adjust to the PL and hopefully improve the players, and more importantly show the potential transfer targets that we are on the right track makes good sense to me. To panic buy some players who would rather be somewhere else but cannot resist the salaries that United are offering is hopefully a thing of the past.
I like it so far, everyone else is spending money and we are following our own path. I think we are setting a trend instead of following like sheep.
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Chelsea at least have the ownership change excuse...
We are aiming for least gross spend top 4.
No value in the market yet 
Surveying the scene, still. Let's see where we are with the midfield in September.
We have the a lot of change but just as incompetent excuse.
this truly is the worst timeline.
At this rate there will be no targets left for Utd
Apply to united for a job. You may not realise it but you have a very high ceiling.
I think we'll sign 3-4 players at most and get rid of a few more but i can't blame people for getting a bit anxious. Last season was an absolute sh*t show and there was a lot of false progress in finishing second place the year before (we were playing a specific style that got us there too that ten Hag almost certainly won't play).
Even with 3 additions top 4 is going to be a big fight. I hope we treat the Europa League as an important trophy because it might just be our best route to champions league football.
Even with 3 additions top 4 is going to be a big fight. I hope we treat the Europa League as an important trophy because it might just be our best route to champions league football.
One problem with being so late with transfers is that our targets won't necessarily be waiting for us, and neither are the back up options.
We want Anthony for example, and it seems that it's gonna be complicated, by the time we decide to move on from that deal most available players will be gone. The likes of Raphinha etc won't be around forever, while if we act decisive, even by walking away from deals, we could still salvage something.
I hate negativity honestly but I can't bring myself to be positive at all. We're trying to hire a guy to help us with transfers in the middle of summer. Why have we sacked so many without a proper replacement in place? I'm not against sacking anyone, but you always line up a replacement first.
It just feels like most people at the club don't really know what they're doing.
We want Anthony for example, and it seems that it's gonna be complicated, by the time we decide to move on from that deal most available players will be gone. The likes of Raphinha etc won't be around forever, while if we act decisive, even by walking away from deals, we could still salvage something.
I hate negativity honestly but I can't bring myself to be positive at all. We're trying to hire a guy to help us with transfers in the middle of summer. Why have we sacked so many without a proper replacement in place? I'm not against sacking anyone, but you always line up a replacement first.
It just feels like most people at the club don't really know what they're doing.
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I'm just lost. in a season as bad as the last, with the team playing as strangers and a new manager coming in it was crucial to get the signings done early so ETH could get a full preseason with all his players.
I really don't mind that we are haggling over FDJ but saying he must be the first player in since he is the key signing is just crazy.
So many players have already been snapped up. A lot of clubs have sold players already and will be unwilling to sell more so increased prices. Other players who we might want to convince to sign are looking at our "new broom" project and wondering where the reinvention is and not wanting to be the solitary muppet we sign in the hope of plastering over the other gaping cracks.
It feels to me like Utd are doing it deliverately so we can spend the summer chasing one player, sign another one on deadline day and write off another crappy window.
Ultimately after long enough, if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's going to be a fecking duck, isn't it?
People will believe anything they read. I'd be considered a conspiracy theorist for saying they sacked Rangnick from doing the consultancy role because he clearly stated that the squad needed 6-10 signings. That the board would rather just change the manager than spend what's required to add 6-10 players to make us challenge the top 4.You can't be talking like that, we got ETH, new board too . Got to be excited, be excited
PR spin worked well recently, got to give them that. Even the shambles of the Rangnick situation didn't scream alarm bells to people on here
I bet the Glazers and the board intentionally made Rangnick out to be the mad King to Ten Hag to stop Ten Hag being influenced by Rangnicks strong opinions. I rate the fans that can clearly see that everything Ralf said was spot on.
Yet people want me to believe that Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho and Ole were all bad managers.
The bottom line is that the Glazers simply see the club as a revenue stream and a business. They have zero fecks about competing with the best teams and winning trophies.
The simple fact is they don't know football or want to succeed as much as they want to make money.
Klavin Phillips for 42 million by City great piece of business. Man what a joke of a club we continue to be. It's beyond embarrassing how we are handling things right now.
It not only feels like it, it is. We wouldn’t be in this mess otherwise. It is the same year after year.
Seen posts saying after we get De Jong then the remaining signings will fall like dominoes but I wouldn't be so sure. We still have to bring the price down for Antony and Martinez and we are problem going to have to wait to sell a few players before making a third signing
Apart from the obvious free transfers, i'm not actually hearing much about players actually being sold, which might be a factor.
Awb, Martial, Henderson (ok, looks like a loan move), Bailly etc.
Awb, Martial, Henderson (ok, looks like a loan move), Bailly etc.
Because who in their right mind would buy them given the wages they're currently on? You will find those level of players in pretty much every club in each top European league.
It doesn't even make any sense. If we have to wait until De Jong is signed before we do anything else, it means we're on a very very tight budget. We're literally afraid to commit funds elsewhere before we know the exact price of De Jong, the idea that we'll be able to go on a spending spree after De Jong has signed doesn't seem very logical.
Where the hell are we finding the money for De Jong, Anthony, Martinez, a striker, a DM, a RB to replace AWB? The signings we do end making may be positive, but we won't make nearly enough of them. Or in the most pressing positions. A goalkeeper to replace Henderson and Eriksen doesn't actually address any of the 6 major areas we needed improvement. We've left ourselves with so many holes in the team and nowhere near enough funds to fix it.
We are always a few steps behind. Nothing about this surprised me.
...just cancelled my MUTV subscription.
Not giving the Glazers any more of my money - they really have no idea how much they will miss my $40NZD
Not giving the Glazers any more of my money - they really have no idea how much they will miss my $40NZD
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Shut up Rene, you obviously have no idea how these transfers work. There is MASSIVE money involved meaning there are MANY complicated steps beyond your understanding. Murtough is working nonstop 16 hours every day. It's only natural that these things take time. Let the experts do their work.
McTominay will start minimum 25 games in the league next season. I bet it'll still happen even after FDJ signs.
It really is a joke. Our worst PL season ever and we get this completely apathetic response from the club. Zero evidence of any preparation or planning. Just clueless businessmen milking the club dry while hoping that ETH can work miracles with the shite he's inherited it would seem.
Forget City and Liverpool, look at Arsenal and Spurs.
People who can't see what a shitshow this summer has been so far are deluding themselves, I didn't really expect any better either from the people in charge.
Calm down folks, unlike following the herd and do all the early panic buys, we do things in United ways, and only deal business when there is great value in the market.
Just one at a time, no panic.
Just one at a time, no panic.
He obviously hasn't heard that we have a new manager to be excited about.
You know it says a lot that Chelsea are having such a bad window too and they're going through one of the biggest crises in their history directly related to one of the largest global issues at the moment. We need no war, no owner change and no fan ban to be this bad in the market, it is a shame. Chelsea has a good excuse, what is ours?
Each day another club makes a transfer and it makes me sick. Not just in the big 6, all over Europe the top clubs are improving. Why are we chasing a player who doesn't want to play for our club and is only thinking about it because of the manager? Isn't there any De Jong back up or are we gonna let Arsenal sign Fabian Ruiz too?
This is a joke and disrespectful to us. ETH needs to do his part and get them in gear. Antony should be done already! How is Haaland's signing announced at the end of the season and we don't have the similar luxuries for a player that was playing for the new manager at the time. We were already doing business with them, we could have asked the price for Antony while sorting ETH.
Then Sangare is clearly a United supporter from his jersey pic and nothing yet? ETH saw what he did to him in the final and still no move. This is a easy £35-40M transfer; are we going to wait till Liverpool beat us AGAIN?
These are easy moves, why are we haggling like we don't have it when they know we have it so we only look stupid.
Each day another club makes a transfer and it makes me sick. Not just in the big 6, all over Europe the top clubs are improving. Why are we chasing a player who doesn't want to play for our club and is only thinking about it because of the manager? Isn't there any De Jong back up or are we gonna let Arsenal sign Fabian Ruiz too?
This is a joke and disrespectful to us. ETH needs to do his part and get them in gear. Antony should be done already! How is Haaland's signing announced at the end of the season and we don't have the similar luxuries for a player that was playing for the new manager at the time. We were already doing business with them, we could have asked the price for Antony while sorting ETH.
Then Sangare is clearly a United supporter from his jersey pic and nothing yet? ETH saw what he did to him in the final and still no move. This is a easy £35-40M transfer; are we going to wait till Liverpool beat us AGAIN?
These are easy moves, why are we haggling like we don't have it when they know we have it so we only look stupid.
200m transfer budget is a lie then
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I'm actually surprised Man Utd haven't gone for Ward-Prowse. Apart from his brilliant free kick conversion rate he is a decent grafter in key areas.
I think it clear as feck we only have very limited money to spend this summer, that's the only explanation. I'd say we only have 100-120m max, hence we could only move on to other deals after FDJ deal is done. If we bought FDJ for 80m, we are only left with 20-40m to make other signings, which is why we need to make sure we don't overpay for FDJ. 60m would be best deal for us, as we will have 40-60m to spend on others.
Here's our spending history over past 4 years:
21-22
In: 126m
Out: 27m
Net spending: 99m
20-21
In: 75m
Out: 17m
Net spending: 58m
19-20
In: 211m
Out: 73m
Net Spending: 138m
18-19
In: 74m
Out: 27m
Net Spending: 47m
I just don't see we could get anything higher than 100-120m this summer, especially when we don't have CL income. I wouldn't even be surprise if we only managed to sign FDJ and no one else this summer.
Some might not be panicked yet but recent history suggests that United could panic buy at the end of the window again. It's a transfer strategy that has got the club to where it is. If Timber, Nunez and Nkunku were primary targets it's a disappointing start. Perhaps FDJ is looking at who else is signing before making his mind up.
That story is just a smoke screen to cover up our incompetency. If we fans are delusional our former coach certainly knows something about football.
Btw., all that crap that we don't have the money... it's ridiculous. Glazers just don't want to spend it. They own Buccaneers for crying out loud. All those who follow NFL know what that means in terms of money.
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