Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids

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Selling Rashford before you sell Antony would be scandalous behaviour.

I dont think sales of either player need to be linked in sequence.

Rashford has the ability to be genuinely world class but I think he needs a change and to leave United for his own sake - to get himself reinvigorated.

Antony on the other hand is fecking shite and there wont be a queue of clubs with chequebooks out for him!
 
Whoever strikes the deal that sells Antony needs a statue erected in their honour.
 
I dont think sales of either player need to be linked in sequence.

Rashford has the ability to be genuinely world class but I think he needs a change and to leave United for his own sake - to get himself reinvigorated.

Antony on the other hand is fecking shite and there wont be a queue of clubs with chequebooks out for him!

I genuinely think Rashford needs a change of scenery. There's a good player there but I think for his benefit he needs a new challenge.
 
I genuinely think Rashford needs a change of scenery. There's a good player there but I think for his benefit he needs a new challenge.

I think so as well. I think he will thrive at a club that consistently challenges for trophies. I think he thinks his time at United is a bit stale with more downs than ups. If we can sell him for good money my dream replacement would be Mitoma. Good age, already accustomed to the pace and intensity of the PL, good first touch, good dribbles.
 
Sadly, nobody is buying Antony nor paying close to his wages. It's the Martial issue all over again. Rashy has value because despite our contempt he isn't a terrible baller, just an arsey one.

Yup, I would sell Rashford because he's become completely stale here barring a good 4-month run last season. We need funds to build a new team and Rashford is a saleable asset.

Antony is going to be an absolute nightmare to shift. He cost a fortune, is on massive wages and has legal issues. His stock is extremely low. I imagine it'll be a loan at best to shift him temporarily.
 
More or less constantly since his debut (with the exception of 21/22)
WTF?

Last season is the only time an argument could be had that he 'carried' us to some extent.

Just as a direct comparison, Martial was better most of the time up until 20/21. Even that season Rashford didn't play very well at all, but he just managed to get a decent amount of goals and assists despite his general form. Then he was atrocious in 21/22. Last season, yeah, he largely carried our attack. Then this season he's been poor again.

The only time's he's been very very good was about three months in 19/20 and a similar amount of time last season.
 
The news that we aren't going to be AS effected by FFP is a blessing and a curse, obviously good news that recruitment won't be as heavily impacted, but I think that adversity would have forced us into some difficult choices. Assets who probably don't get us to where we want to be like McTominay and Rashford who are also pure FFP profit for us could be on the block.

Based purely on FFP, I would have those two, Martial, Lindelof and Case as my top 5 sales. I wouldn't cry if we also lost Bruno, I like him as a person but I don't think we go anywhere meaningful with him as a creative hub.

A Sancho sale probably lands us in the red from an FFP perspective, AWB, Maguire and Antony also, hurts to keep them but for the sake of the wider recruitment effort there is an argument to keep them before the others.
 
I dont think sales of either player need to be linked in sequence.

Rashford has the ability to be genuinely world class but I think he needs a change and to leave United for his own sake - to get himself reinvigorated.

Antony on the other hand is fecking shite and there wont be a queue of clubs with chequebooks out for him!
The reason they are linked is that currently Antony can’t even get minutes in close outs.

There isn’t a world in which Antony recoups his fee or anywhere near it so we’re better off taking that pill sooner rather than prolonging it as we have done with Van de Beek etc.

Rashford is a more useful player than Antony & given FFP constrictions we aren’t going to be able to bring in loads of players this Summer so ridding the squad of Rashford makes no sense in terms of squad quality in the short term. Unless we can get a ridiculous fee from PSG that truly eases FFP then selling him for something nominal doesn’t improve that situation enough.

I don’t think many/if any [bar Mainoo, perhaps Garnacho] from this squad will end up being key figures in the next successful United squad but selling Rashford whilst Antony remains, for me, is a terrible message to send.

Deal with Rashford slightly further down the road.

Sadly, nobody is buying Antony nor paying close to his wages. It's the Martial issue all over again. Rashy has value because despite our contempt he isn't a terrible baller, just an arsey one.
See above.

I agree we aren’t getting much if anything for Antony but we need to accept that sooner rather than later & cut bait.

From the noises Ineos are making they know they’ll have to take some pain in the short term & I think taking what you can for Antony may well be something they pursue cause nothing is off the table.
 
The only person who should be deciding whether Marcus stays or leaves is Marcus himself.
All these posts saying take this amount or that amount are frankly disrespectful to a player that has given so much to the club.
:lol: No the club should decide. He’s just an employee
 
Doubt the club will actively try to sell him, but if a large offer came in I hope they'd seriously consider it at least. Any half decent recruitment team should be capable of finding a suitable replacement for that lazy arse
 
Those for getting rid...must also want a new face coming in.

I'd suggest getting rid of Martial, Sancho and Antony and bringing in a new face would be the better option.

There is a limit on how many fires Sir Jim can put out in the summer. Rashford genuinely is not that big of an issue, he's had a poor season (like everyone else) but he has shown signs of combining with Hojlund and in the last 2 months the forwards have been alright if not pretty decent.

My reason for getting rid of Rashford isn’t because I think he’s the biggest issue. It’s moreso that I think it’s very good business if you can get 60-70m for a flawed player whose production isn’t irreplaceable. Obviously the names you mentioned should be shipped out as deadweight but those are no brainer decisions anyways.
 
Always really liked Rashford as a player, even during his poor runs of form I defended him. For the first time, I'm getting fatigued waiting for him to become a consistent player.

It would be a very brave move to sell though, as it's not the right time in my opinion. Him and Bruno are basically the faces of United. If he leaves and starts smashing it at PSG whilst we are still struggling in the league next season - it would be awful PR for Ratcliffe and co. A lot to lose and not an awful lot to gain by selling, especially when there's easier assets to move on this summer (Greenwood, Sancho, Maguire, AWB) and he has so long left on his contract. Selling in summer 2025 would make more sense, if we decide he's no longer needed.

If we are evaluating transfer decisions from a PR standpoint then we won’t ever be successful anyways.
 
World-class ability, but one of the most non-competitive players I've ever seen at the club. Sell.
 
its one of those situations where the time comes where a move suits all parties and if PSG are in the mood this could be the time to dance. For me its a 'what would SAF do?' and I am pretty sure having he would be selling. I still remember the shock when Hughes and Kancelskis got sold in the same summer, but it was the right decision.
 
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Selling Rashford before you sell Antony would be scandalous behaviour.
I doubt we'll be getting bids for either to be honest, or even Sancho for that matter. In that sense if there's a chance to sell any player we don't want to keep, we should sell.
 
I doubt we'll be getting bids for either to be honest, or even Sancho for that matter. In that sense if there's a chance to sell any player we don't want to keep, we should sell.
Let's not be silly. If Rashford was for sale, you'd have several clubs interested in him. A player his age who's had multiple 20+ goal seasons in the PL aren't easy to come by.
 
Let's not be silly. If Rashford was for sale, you'd have several clubs interested in him. A player his age who's had multiple 20+ goal seasons in the PL aren't easy to come by.
I honestly don't think Rashford is a hot commodity at the moment. I wouldn't want us to invest in a player who has been inconsistent through out his career. It's not as if we're going to sell on the cheap, and he'd also demand high wages anywhere else, so the attraction isn't there.
 
I honestly don't think Rashford is a hot commodity at the moment. I wouldn't want us to invest in a player who has been inconsistent through out his career. It's not as if we're going to sell on the cheap, and he'd also demand high wages anywhere else, so the attraction isn't there.
The high wages might be an issue for some clubs, however I don't see a world where PSG and other top European clubs would baulk at paying 70m for him.
 
its one of those situations where the time comes where a move suits all parties and if PSG are in the mood this could be the time to dance. For me its a 'what would SAF do?' and I am pretty sure having he would be selling. I still remember the shock when Hughes and Kancelskis got sold in the same summer, but it was the right decision.

Of course it helps selling established players when you have a once a century crop of superb youngsters who all love the club coming through.
 
Rashford genuinely is not that big of an issue, he's had a poor season (like everyone else) but he has shown signs of combining with Hojlund and in the last 2 months the forwards have been alright if not pretty decent.

Perplexing take. The player has had two 'good' seasons in his entire time at Man Utd and is nowhere near good enough to play for a club that refers to itself as the 'biggest' in the world. He epitomises most things that are at odds with all of the great players, teams, and managers that have made Man Utd so famous. He is three rungs, at best, above Jesse Lingard on a twenty-step ladder. What sort of example does it set to the entire playing squad that this lazy peabrain is a star player? You are seriously underestimating the effect that this must have on a squad. How is a manager supposed to develop young, unproven players as part of the first team when the standards are so slow?
 
An in-form Rashford is a lethal attacking weapon, so if we can get him to perform consistently then we should keep him.

The question is, is he able to maintain a top level form for long periods to make our attack strong?

If the answer is no then there is no point keeping as he is not serving the purpose of keeping him.
 
Rashford must go. He’s not elite enough to be this shit at pressing. We must sell him for £50m and build something new. Great lad, not good enough to be United’s main man.
 
Absolutely embarrassing player. Sell

Completely bottling a simple challenge to stop a counter that nearly leads to conceding sums him up
 
He is too bad off the ball and too thick on it for this football club. If he was a moderately paid backup then fine but he’s not.