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Marcus Rashford (Out)
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There’s no chance we’re selling him. The club see him as the jewel in the flat cap and will try to accommodate him and build the team around him even if he never scores or assists again.
I think you're underestimating how ruthless Brailsford is, and I assume SJR too, and also how valuable the profit from the sale of Rashford would be in giving us headroom for rebuilding under FFP/FSR/PSC/PSQ (or whatever it's called these days).
Hopefully club owners listen to the English media because he’d be worth £100m and regardless of this slight downturn in form we’d be crazy to sell him
I said before his contract renewal that in England and maybe world football there isn't a footballer whose reputation exceeds actual performance like Rashford's.Hopefully club owners listen to the English media because he’d be worth £100m and regardless of this slight downturn in form we’d be crazy to sell him
If we were looking to sell a player a year ago, financially he'd be top of that list. Present day, with another haul of rubbish performances, we'd still get a good fee.
It's a true test of the new owners. How good are they at squad building. Let's see what they do with Marcus.
The comments in here are genuinely laughable. “If we” (Man Utd, presumably) can get him to perform consistently.
When are people going to wake up? All those years of success clouded over how fickle the fan base is. He should be at Everton or some club like that. The sooner he is gone, the better.
When are people going to wake up? All those years of success clouded over how fickle the fan base is. He should be at Everton or some club like that. The sooner he is gone, the better.
I would snatch villa hand off if we can swap him for Watkins, rashford is the more talented but Watkins has the better mentality and work ethic.
He's on massive wages, so only PSG would likely entertain buying him.
Who told you that? Some of the crap people make up on here is hilarious.
New manager and regime need a new dressing room slate too, absolutely crucial. They need to be allowed to mould it in their vision as Arteta did at Arsenal. No one player thinking they can do as they wish. All players playing for and under the head coach.
Rashford should be the first in the queue, but likes of Shaw, Bruno, McTominey should absolutely follow. Far too many chances to set the tone of the dressing room and they haven’t done so. A cultural reset needs to be a priority and Rashford going is absolutely key to that.
Rashford should be the first in the queue, but likes of Shaw, Bruno, McTominey should absolutely follow. Far too many chances to set the tone of the dressing room and they haven’t done so. A cultural reset needs to be a priority and Rashford going is absolutely key to that.
Regardless of whether he's sold or not it seems almost certain the club will have moved on from handing out those sort of contracts, so at least that's something. No more 'hey you were terrible the season before but you've done great this year, here's 300k a week, keep it up'. Hopefully we'll handle young talents like Garnacho and Mainoo much better going forward.
How much is mount getting paid? I don't know if they've learnt their lesson yet
Rashford, Bruno, McT, Sancho, Case, Varane and Maguire should all go (there’s some more, but these would make the biggest difference in terms of freeing up space to maneuver in the market).
Time to cash in on the first two, get the FFP bump on Rashford and McT, cut our losses on Sancho and get the last four’s massive wages off the books. We should be able to get good fees for Rashford (if PSG are interested), McT, Case (Saudi) and Bruno. Total rebuild.
Time to cash in on the first two, get the FFP bump on Rashford and McT, cut our losses on Sancho and get the last four’s massive wages off the books. We should be able to get good fees for Rashford (if PSG are interested), McT, Case (Saudi) and Bruno. Total rebuild.
We have the same conversations all the time. People don’t go to the stadium to watch a lad mope about all day nor do they go to watch him clap back at them when he scores one time. Someone needed to step up yesterday and as usual Rashford wasn’t interested in being that person. So the question is should we be paying leader/top player money out of the budget for a lad who isn’t interested in contributing in ways outside of goals and assists(so is useless when he’s low in confidence)
Let's look at the evidence:
1. Plays every game no matter how poor his form is
2. Our most 'marketable' footballer - on promotional material, probably the one player you'd be confident anyone around the world could name in our squad
3. Reportedly our highest paid player (some sources say Varane/Casemiro, but he's certainly in the top 3).
4. Only 26
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Only twenty-six? Is he the new Lingard?
My point is he has his supposed best years still ahead of him. He’s not a 32 year old on a depressing downwards spiral.
No he’s a 27 year old on a last tour
Ratcliffe will sell him and bring Mason Greenwood back.
Naa. This is a British bid for a British club. They are not going to sell the biggest British PR guy at the club.
Well that’s a depressing thought. Would be a huge needle in the INEOS hype balloon.
I tend to agree. At least not this summer, even if I’d prefer he go. I do think one of him or Bruno HAS to go this summer, you can’t go through another season of “building around” them as your marquee players and expect any sort of marked difference in performances.
Martial and Sterling only turned 28 and 29 respectively a couple of month ago and they've been on a depressing downwards spiral for years. Rashford turns 27 shortly after the next season starts.
I believe Salah and Son are the only forwards at a top 6 club who are in their 30s and they are both very professional, unlike Rashford. He'll be long, long finished when he is 31 like them.
Sadly though, I agree with your original point that he won't be sold.
Yeah and that in a nutshell is exactly why this club lacks any ruthlessness. Unfortunately will be the same story with Bruno as well
The next window might be our only chance to sell him for a good value since PSG will be desperate for Mbappe replacement (and also to save face).
There is no chance Man Utd can sell him. There is no market for him. Based on his form this season I highly doubt PSG is still interested in his service.
PSG aren’t buying rashford. They’ve been shouting their new strategy via the press for months now - bomb out all the failed stars, move away from the galactico era to an all-french side focussing on promising young players. They’ve already got mbappe’s replacement in Bradley Barcola.
Don't think he wants to be here. £100 milliones for PSG. Here we Go!
The one reason I'm okay with his low work rate is because I think he knows he plays for a rubbish manager & arguably some rubbish team mates chosen by a rubbish manager. I wonder what a player with average to low work rate would feel like post Onana's performances in the CL or Antony's in the PL.
Arguably nearly 60% of redcafe wants Ten Hag sacked from his Job - so I personally doubt that these 60% of people would have a high level of work rate working in a Ten Hag system either never mind the club shirt they play for. I just view Rashford in that 60% of society that knows Ten Hag isn't good enough so doesn't or wouldn't work hard for him.
I personally wouldn't work hard for Ten Hag as I would for a top level manager. Whether Rashford gets chosen for a top level manager is a different story. Rashford is an overpayed player - but it wouldn't surprise me if a new & better manager managed to get a better version out of him again next season. It may be just another purple patch - but I doubt a good manager playing a good team wouldn't get a good version of Rashford.
Arguably nearly 60% of redcafe wants Ten Hag sacked from his Job - so I personally doubt that these 60% of people would have a high level of work rate working in a Ten Hag system either never mind the club shirt they play for. I just view Rashford in that 60% of society that knows Ten Hag isn't good enough so doesn't or wouldn't work hard for him.
I personally wouldn't work hard for Ten Hag as I would for a top level manager. Whether Rashford gets chosen for a top level manager is a different story. Rashford is an overpayed player - but it wouldn't surprise me if a new & better manager managed to get a better version out of him again next season. It may be just another purple patch - but I doubt a good manager playing a good team wouldn't get a good version of Rashford.
He doesn’t need to be a thirty-two year old on a downward spiral, though. He’s just not good enough. The fact is he has resembled a thirty-two year old on a downward spiral in about four of the seasons he has played, in his early and mid-twenties, with only two good but not great seasons to speak of. He will never be good enough for Man Utd, and there’s nothing to suggest that he will be in his late twenties, which he will enter next season.
Blown away by this. Not that I’m enamored by Rashford, but 128 goals and 60 assists in 390 appearances isn’t nothing… Antony, by comparison, has 34 goals and 29 assists in 178 appearances, and the bulk of the goals and assists came in lower leagues.
Antony is one-footed, a poor finisher, isn’t especially fast or quick, unimaginative in his passing and a poor decision-maker. Yes, he tracks back… but that’s about it.
‘Pretty sure if you polled PL defenders, 90% would say they’d rather face Antony than Marcus. Rashy has world class speed, is a good, sometimes great finisher, bigger, stronger and generally a better decision maker. He’s also had some jaw-dropping free kicks.
Would Antony ever be able to hit a bomb from 45 yards like Rashford did against Chelsea? No no no.
I’m actually for us selling Rashford if we can replace him with a truly world class player, but this is no contest.
The manager doesnt pay him 350k a week to perform, the club do
He said: "Yeah. Maguire is an excellent, top-class player. We were interested, but we could not afford it. United afford it. He's an excellent player, national team too, he had an incredible World Cup.
"He's strong in the air, good with the ball, the build-up, he drives with the ball, he's fast, so fast. He has all the qualities. Congratulations to United for this signature."
I actually looked at this, he works harder than Mbappe so he's an upgrade defensively.
Pep is the most sarcastic man in football. When he loses, he says his team played great. When he wins, he says the opposition played great. When he lets a player's contract run out, he says they're amazing and he's going to miss them.He said: "Yeah. Maguire is an excellent, top-class player. We were interested, but we could not afford it. United afford it. He's an excellent player, national team too, he had an incredible World Cup.
"He's strong in the air, good with the ball, the build-up, he drives with the ball, he's fast, so fast. He has all the qualities. Congratulations to United for this signature."
I'm convinced he actually hates Maguire and must have just been cackling like a lunatic when we signed him.
It's hard not to love that trolling.He said: "Yeah. Maguire is an excellent, top-class player. We were interested, but we could not afford it. United afford it. He's an excellent player, national team too, he had an incredible World Cup.
"He's strong in the air, good with the ball, the build-up, he drives with the ball, he's fast, so fast. He has all the qualities. Congratulations to United for this signature."
It’s impossible for the “fast, so fast” bit to be anything other than taking the mickey, and I say that as someone who thinks Maguire has been an ok signing, compared to other recent additions.
Doesn't really matter to me.
I assume you would work harder for Pep Guardiola than working hard for someone as rubbish as me in a management position.
Similarly- Rashford knows Ten Hag is a poor manager and is simply not trying for his manager & still gets chosen by who? The manager.
Shows how average Ten Hag is.