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Yeah, I agree with this. The first movie had this in spades. So many wonderful and sometimes weird moments of world building, like the introduction of the Sardaukar or that creepy spider pet that the Baron had. I guess it's partly a matter of this one being a follow-up with no real new locations. In the first one we saw the concept of of the Gom Jabbar for the first time, and an ornithopter for the first time, so they are not really as memorable in this one.

If I remember it right, the first one also had more examples of striking cinematography. There are some shots that I can remember quite vividly, especially related to the Baron. This one, of course, had more set pieces that were great. They are really two quite different movies in many ways.
That was Dr. Yueh's wife.
 

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As long as it was, I wanted more and even though I knew what was coming it was exciting when it happened. When Nolan talks about keeping going to the cinema as a special experience…Villeneuve is the guy making those movies because I’d pay more to see this in a better theatre.

It’s not a 10/10 but proofs out as a ’must see in theatre’ 9/10.
 

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There are plenty of videos on YouTube that give an overview of the first movie if @Sweet Square really wants to educate himself, but there's also enough exposition in the 2nd movie to explain a lot of what's happening. If you're going in totally blind you might as well pop a couple of edibles and make a day of it.
 

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There are plenty of videos on YouTube that give an overview of the first movie if @Sweet Square really wants to educate himself, but there's also enough exposition in the 2nd movie to explain a lot of what's happening. If you're going in totally blind you might as well pop a couple of edibles and make a day of it.
Or @Sweet Square can just stop being such a lil bitch and watch the film
 

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@Sweet Square If you really insist on not watching the first movie, this is a general run of things in five quick bullet points:

  • The universe's emperor, Shaddam IV orders the noble house Atreides to take control of 'spice production' on a harsh uninhabited desert planet named Arrakis (also known as Dune).
  • The Atreides are led by Duke Leto Atreides, he has a son called Paul, and a concubine called Lady Jessica. She's part of a sisterhood group called the Bene Gesserits who meddle.
  • Paul is trained to be a fighter by his aides Duncan Idaho, Gurney Halleck, and a very suspicious doctor named Wellington Yueh. Some of these die, some of them don't.
  • Another household, the Harkonnens declare war on Atreides, killing Duke Leto and sending Paul and Lady Jessica into exile where they meet bedouin sand people called the Fremen.
  • Paul learns the ways of the Fremen, meets Javier Bardem who thinks he's a prophet messiah, learns about the origin of 'spice' (hint: it's the worms), and falls in love with Zendaya.
The second movie begins after this with Paul and Jessica hanging out with the Fremen and trying to figure out a way to restore the Atreides to the throne again.
 

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You've never seen the David Lynch 1984 movie either?
I’ve had it play in the background and seen bits and pieces of it but never sat down and watch it fully through.

The Dune style of fantasy sci fi has never really appealed to me. I’ve always been more interested in William Gibson stuff and Blade Runner. But with all the great reviews it seems Dune 2 is worth a shot.

If you're going in totally blind you might as well pop a couple of edibles and make a day of it.
That’s the plan!

Or @Sweet Square can just stop being such a lil bitch and watch the film
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@Sweet Square If you really insist on not watching the first movie, this is a general run of things in five quick bullet points:

  • The universe's emperor, Shaddam IV orders the noble house Atreides to take control of 'spice production' on a harsh uninhabited desert planet named Arrakis (also known as Dune).
  • The Atreides are led by Duke Leto Atreides, he has a son called Paul, and a concubine called Lady Jessica. She's part of a sisterhood group called the Bene Gesserits who meddle.
  • Paul is trained to be a fighter by his aides Duncan Idaho, Gurney Halleck, and a very suspicious doctor named Wellington Yueh. Some of these die, some of them don't.
  • Another household, the Harkonnens declare war on Atreides, killing Duke Leto and sending Paul and Lady Jessica into exile where they meet bedouin sand people called the Fremen.
  • Paul learns the ways of the Fremen, meets Javier Bardem who thinks he's a prophet messiah, learns about the origin of 'spice' (hint: it's the worms), and falls in love with Zendaya.
The second movie begins after this with Paul and Jessica hanging out with the Fremen and trying to figure out a way to restore the Atreides to the throne again.
Thanks for this.
 

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Just watched it and enjoyed it.

Beautifully shot and enjoyed it a lot. Did feel a bit rushed perhaps
How quick was Paul's transition from boy to Messiah.... the final assault lacked any real peril and was over so quickly

also think some of the characters arcs werent great
Batista a bit of a clown, not easy to take Walken seriously at times

still well worth a watch and love the world building/sci-fi - 8/10
 

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Just home from it and thought it was outstanding.

I knew nothing about Dune before watching the first film and while I thought that was stunning visually, I wasn’t blown away by the story.

This time I really enjoyed it. 3 hours didn’t feel anywhere close to it, some of the performances were truly superb and I thought the storyline was great.

As for annoying people sitting near me, the cinema is literally the only place on Earth I become confrontational. I find a short, sharp and regular volumed “If you’re not here to watch the movie, then get out” works pretty much every time. The only guy who ever tried to come back at me got removed by staff.
 

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@Sweet Square If you really insist on not watching the first movie, this is a general run of things in five quick bullet points:

  • The universe's emperor, Shaddam IV orders the noble house Atreides to take control of 'spice production' on a harsh uninhabited desert planet named Arrakis (also known as Dune).
  • The Atreides are led by Duke Leto Atreides, he has a son called Paul, and a concubine called Lady Jessica. She's part of a sisterhood group called the Bene Gesserits who meddle.
  • Paul is trained to be a fighter by his aides Duncan Idaho, Gurney Halleck, and a very suspicious doctor named Wellington Yueh. Some of these die, some of them don't.
  • Another household, the Harkonnens declare war on Atreides, killing Duke Leto and sending Paul and Lady Jessica into exile where they meet bedouin sand people called the Fremen.
  • Paul learns the ways of the Fremen, meets Javier Bardem who thinks he's a prophet messiah, learns about the origin of 'spice' (hint: it's the worms), and falls in love with Zendaya.
The second movie begins after this with Paul and Jessica hanging out with the Fremen and trying to figure out a way to restore the Atreides to the throne again.
The only thing I would add is that in the first movie itself we knew that the emperor conspired with the Harkkonens to wipe out the Atreides, especially with the use of the Sardaukar troops. This is a key point that sets the stage for the second movie.
 

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How is Austin Butler in this?
I recall first seeing him in The Carrie diaries and figured he'd end up some sort of B-grade actor/TV series heartthrob mainstay throughout his career.

Seemed likeable but not the most talented actor. And his career has gone accordingly since...until it sort of exploded recently. From a bit part appearance in Once upon a time in Hollywood, to leading man in Elvis, to Bikeriders, Masters of the Air and now Dune 2. Quite a few blockbusters and GOAT level actors/directors/producers he's worked with. Bloody hell.
 

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Dune 2, unreal! A rare reminder of why the cinema is still important these days.
I do agree with half of this statement!

I don't go along with the absolute over the top pile-on which has followed this movie because it's way off being 10 out of 10.

But I do think that watching a film at home or on the move will never even come close to the cinema experience. And this film is a great example of that because watching it on a screen 5% of the size changes everything!
 

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I was blown away. Classic Redcafe can never rate anything too much haha.

This is from someone who thought part 1 wasn't very good on first watch (better on second watch). Unfortunately I didn't watch part 1 in the cinema.

There's an on screen battle movie which blows you away every few years:
Star Wars
Lord of the Rings
Game of Thrones
Avengers Infinity War

Now Dune joins this list.

I'm sure I've missed a few more? Braveheart?
 

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I was blown away. Classic Redcafe can never rate anything too much haha.
People so far on here have been very positive. There's only been a few less enthusiastic responses, and one negative one - probably because unlike Bardem they can't recognise Lisan al Gaib when it's staring straight at them.
 

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I was blown away. Classic Redcafe can never rate anything too much haha.

This is from someone who thought part 1 wasn't very good on first watch (better on second watch). Unfortunately I didn't watch part 1 in the cinema.

There's an on screen battle movie which blows you away every few years:
Star Wars
Lord of the Rings
Game of Thrones
Avengers Infinity War

Now Dune joins this list.

I'm sure I've missed a few more? Braveheart?
Braveheart :drool:

On the bolded bit, the reviews on here have been overwhelmingly positive - with a ton of 9 and even 10's given!
 

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You will always get the odd contrarian. I’m not saying it was a perfect movie, but watching it in IMAX was awesome.

I’m planning to go again.
 

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I recall first seeing him in The Carrie diaries and figured he'd end up some sort of B-grade actor/TV series heartthrob mainstay throughout his career.

Seemed likeable but not the most talented actor. And his career has gone accordingly since...until it sort of exploded recently. From a bit part appearance in Once upon a time in Hollywood, to leading man in Elvis, to Bikeriders, Masters of the Air and now Dune 2. Quite a few blockbusters and GOAT level actors/directors/producers he's worked with. Bloody hell.
I first saw him in a series called Shannara Chronicles.
After that Elvis performance he put himself on the map. I thought that might be the highlight of his career but now he's in Dune 2. Based on the reviews of this movie I'll say he's building himself a really nice resume. He's come a long way in a very short time.
 

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I saw it in a Dolby Atmos theatre and there's a clip with Denis before it starts where he's saying "The absolute best way to watch this movie is in Dolby".

...Is there the same thing before the IMAX showing?
 

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Him and his on screen uncle could've been used more but there's just so much stuff to cram in and it was already a nearly 3 hour film.
It’s a very small criticism, but I felt it could’ve done with a better battle victory scene for him after he took over from his brother down on Arrakis.

We had the scene where he was using the old fashioned artillery on Sietch Tabr and his uncle called it genius, but it could’ve done with him visibly striking a devastating blow to make his character that bit bigger and more terrifying before that final fight.
 

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Him and his on screen uncle could've been used more but there's just so much stuff to cram in and it was already a nearly 3 hour film.
That is the thing.
Even with the length of the film/s, due to the source material, there is still a sense that certain things still need to be crammed in.
 

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I read that Butler's character is abit underused.
Somewhat is - it's a fair criticism. It's not a massive issue, but
considering how they sort of build up his character, I thought he was going to be Paul's enemy for the next film too, I was surprised he was killed in this one.
 

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I read that Butler's character is abit underused.
He was one of the weaker parts for me. Not terrible or anything, but I felt he was a bit cartoonish in how psychotic and evil he was. He's supposed to be one of the main threats of the movie, but you never really get the sense that he is a real danger to the "good guys".
 

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He was one of the weaker parts for me. Not terrible or anything, but I felt he was a bit cartoonish in how psychotic and evil he was. He's supposed to be one of the main threats of the movie, but you never really get the sense that he is a real danger to the "good guys".
There also isn't much to him in the book though. He is cartoonish to the point that he even conspires against his uncle (the Baron), who discovers the plot just in time (and kinda respects him for it, except for the clumsy execution). Although that's of course where screenwriters can make choices, they didn't leave everyone else exactly as-is either.
 

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In fairness not many can match up to this