All that have a vagina.Who are the many unlikeable players?
NoAm I racist for thinking Sam Kerr was white?
I think maybe a little.
Regardless, referring to anyone's skin colour in this way is typically brain-dead behaviour.
Yes absolute waste of time and public moneyIt's a 'waste of police time and resources' allowing Kerr to defend herself, or the officer present suitable (scrutinised) evidence of the charge?
Yes because that’s exactly what I said.Yeah. It was terrible wasn’t it??
Great idea here. Let’s ignore any law and legislation if the alleged ‘victim’ has suffered the atrocities of the people who it supposed to protect.
I assume that men shouldn’t be protected by domestic violence laws either because they’ve (as a collective) not faced the horrendous crimes that the female population have.
makes sense
Jill Scott is just annoying on the Overlap but not bad other than that fair enough. The other 3 don't need an explanation.Jill Scott to my mind is one of the kindest, most unassuming and likeable players in the women’s game. Very strange take.
Rapinoe and Solo are famously outspoken by not necessarily unlikeable.
It also says how much you pay attention that you can only name 4 players and 3 of them are retired.
No, not exactly, however they did imply that the law and/legislation shouldn’t matter because of the lack of oppression that white people have been through.Yes because that’s exactly what I said.
Why did you reply with that to me, as I never implied anything like that?No, not exactly, however they did imply that the law and/legislation shouldn’t matter because of the lack of oppression that white people have been through.
Which is as equally stupid as what I replied with
then I have no idea what your initial reply to me was supposed to say. It sounded like you were implying that because of the lack of oppression for white people, this shouldn’t be dealt with accordingly, which I disagree with.Why did you reply with that to me, as I never implied anything like that?
I mean in your opinion perhaps not but in the law it is.Who said that it was okay to be racist? The point is that what she allegedly said isn't in my opinion a racist slur, we may disagree on that and I'll accept your interpretation but the point I made isn't that it's racist and okay.
Why so?Yes absolute waste of time and public money
Just as a guess -Who are the many unlikeable players?
It's a good a thing that I mentioned my opinion then?I mean in your opinion perhaps not but in the law it is.
ExtremelyIt's a good a thing that I mentioned my opinion then?
Thanks for the warning re interactions with that guy.Just as a guess -
- anyone who campaigns for women’s equality,
- Anyone who is gay or campaigns for LGBT rights
- Anyone who challenges the paternal hierarchy of the game
- Anyone with an opinion
- Anyone with breasts or a vagina.
Thats what I’m picking up from my interactions with that guy anyway.
Just pointed out why the discrimination by white people towards non-whites is often seen in a different light as there is a lot of historical context behind it.then I have no idea what your initial reply to me was supposed to say. It sounded like you were implying that because of the lack of oppression for white people, this shouldn’t be dealt with accordingly, which I disagree with.
However, if I’m wrong with my interpretation, I apologise
I was unaware of this case, but looking into it charges were dropped. She seems to be a troubled character with alcohol and anger issues. Im not sure labelling her will help, but that’s for another thread.Solo is a domestic abuser.
Yeap. ”But she’s loud and obnoxious”. Pay them accordingly and treat them as people should be treated and no-one has to be loud.Just as a guess -
- anyone who campaigns for women’s equality,
- Anyone who is gay or campaigns for LGBT rights
- Anyone who challenges the paternal hierarchy of the game
- Anyone with an opinion
- Anyone with breasts or a vagina.
Thats what I’m picking up from my interactions with that guy anyway.
Indeed, otherwise the women’s game needs these ‘squeaky wheels’ to ensure they get their fair share of the grease.Yeap. ”But she’s loud and obnoxious”. Pay them accordingly and treat them as people should be treated and no-one has to be loud.
Well said. Rapinoe can be abrasive and outspoken but she is an effective campaigner for social justice and a role model for women. Men and women of all persuasions appreciate what she has done.Just as a guess -
- anyone who campaigns for women’s equality,
- Anyone who is gay or campaigns for LGBT rights
- Anyone who challenges the paternal hierarchy of the game
- Anyone with an opinion
- Anyone with breasts or a vagina.
Thats what I’m picking up from my interactions with that guy anyway.
Yeah, I appreciate that. However, there is no caveat in law that says it could or should be treated differently should the victim to be white. And, I would argue that that is the correct way to approach it.Just pointed out why the discrimination by white people towards non-whites is often seen in a different light as there is a lot of historical context behind it.
There are nuances in the social aspect of these issues, which are often ignored when people want to simplify a complex subject.
Racism was founded on and is strongly connected with white people being discriminatory from a position of power. A position many non-white ethnic groups struggle to even get to. So the dynamic is different.
No you're right, the laws have to pretty black and white (no pun intended). Just personally more interested on the social aspect around it all.Yeah, I appreciate that. However, there is no caveat in law that says it could or should be treated differently should the victim to be white. And, I would argue that that is the correct way to approach it.
The allegation is that she used a racist term against a cop when she was pissed and my understanding of it is that she was acting like a knob. She should be dealt with accordingly and I’m fairly certain that she’ll be in trouble if any of it is true.
The exact term that was used should be irrelevant.
This is something that makes zero sense to me. You don't automatically have power/privilege over all black people because you are white. Its such a bizarre concept that every white person has some intrinsic privilege that is greater than every black person. I would suggest that as a black person in the UK right now there are a lot of people you have far more power over than plenty of white people. It can 100% go both ways and a millionaire footballer racially abusing a cabbie might fit that bill....One last thing I'll say is that in this type of a situation if a white person said it to a black person, it would be from a position of power/privilege and meant to push that black person down because of their skin colour. Obviously Kerr didn't use that phrase in a positive sense in this situation, but I still don't perceive the dynamic the same.
I'll give you his answer: The ones with vaginas.Who are the many unlikeable players?
Power dynamic and privilege aren’t static. A white person isnt always in a powerful position and a black pwrson isn’t always in a weak one.No you're right, the laws have to pretty black and white (no pun intended). Just personally more interested on the social aspect around it all.
One last thing I'll say is that in this type of a situation if a white person said it to a black person, it would be from a position of power/privilege and meant to push that black person down because of their skin colour. Obviously Kerr didn't use that phrase in a positive sense in this situation, but I still don't perceive the dynamic the same.
Of course not every single white person have more power/privilege than every non-white person. But that dynamic is very strongly rooted in the system and structures of the culture. Which obviously has influence on how individuals are treated.This is something that makes zero sense to me. You don't automatically have power/privilege over all black people because you are white. Its such a bizarre concept that every white person has some intrinsic privilege that is greater than every black person. I would suggest that as a black person in the UK right now there are a lot of people you have far more power over than plenty of white people. It can 100% go both ways and a millionaire footballer racially abusing a cabbie might fit that bill....
I’m not sure the country would go mental over it due to the bolded.Probably should have read the article.
Again, I think you’re right about time and money etc. but if this is a white footballer racially abusing a non-white officer, the country goes mental and rightly so.
Of course not. But when the dynamic has been the same for hundreds of years, it takes a long time to change.Power dynamic and privilege aren’t static. A white person isnt always in a powerful position and a black pwrson isn’t always in a weak one.
/thread.While there is a clear difference in the dynamics between calling an officer a white bastard instead of a brown/black etc. one, I wouldn't say its of no note at all. Any reference to race is odd and not needed.
Interesting contrast.I was unaware of this case, but looking into it charges were dropped. She seems to be a troubled character with alcohol and anger issues. Im not sure labelling her will help, but that’s for another thread.
With?Interesting contrast.
Again, I get what you mean but I think it’s too simplistic to say that every time it is white person to other minority is from a position of power. I’ve seen plenty of white people who have pissed themselves being racially abusive. That is purely a lack of education/upbringing. Albeit, I know that the position of power for white people is what started this shitNo you're right, the laws have to pretty black and white (no pun intended). Just personally more interested on the social aspect around it all.
One last thing I'll say is that in this type of a situation if a white person said it to a black person, it would be from a position of power/privilege and meant to push that black person down because of their skin colour. Obviously Kerr didn't use that phrase in a positive sense in this situation, but I still don't perceive the dynamic the same.
Arguably not.I’m not sure the country would go mental over it due to the bolded.
Other domestic violence cases? I mean, I'm not familiar with Ms. Solo's case but aren't these types of charges often dropped because the victim goes back to the offender making a conviction harder to achieve? And then suggest her struggles with alcohol and anger as some sort of mitigating circumstances and not wanting to label her seems a bit unequal.With?
