I doubt that's going to work now, apparently the other countries looking to get the 5th champions league spot have a much higher chance now than England does. It's going to be just top 4 I think.
This is not accurate. Italy should end the season first but England (despite last Thursday not going very well) is still favourite to catch Germany. And of course we have a good shot at this 5th spot. Villa can give us a boost tomorrow.
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Oh that's good news then!
West ham beating Freiburg is important
There's no guarantees any of these sides in this race win any game tbh. That's why we are all scrapping for 4th/5th/6th.
Villa and Spurs both have lots of tricky fixtures coming up.
You're forgetting that we're terrible.
Exactly.
Effectively 10 and 9 with our ridiculously bad goal difference. And only 10 games left.
You can be terrible and still compete for 4th/5th. It's all relative.
It's been over for a while now. Spurs and Villa have been a 2 point per game team all season, and play like it for the most part... United are not a 2 point per game team the way we play, and even after half a season, we basically needed to go on a 90 point season pace for half a season to make up that gap. To get to even 70 points (which won't be enough for top 5), we need 23 points in 10 games.. that's 7 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss. That's not happening in any realistic scenario. We'd do really well to even get 18 points (5 wins, 3 draws) from our last 10 fixtures which aren't that easy, which is 65 points. I'd guess we are in the low 60's range come the end of the season.
Yep completely agree. This forum loves to deal in certainties.
We arent even really competing though, we're miles behind.
I mean we're competing obviously. It's just going terribly and there's little evidence that we'd be able to take advantage of a ''couple of bad games" from either team.
We basically need to show form in the last 10 that we haven't all season (and we have a tough fixture list) to have a chance at top 4 while at the same time, Spurs and Villa showing basically relegation form for the last 10 games. It's a really big gap for only 10 games remaining, especially taking into account how we actually play.
It's common sense. We can't put a run together. We struggle against any half competent team. We're crap away from home. We lose far too often and our performances have been awful all season.
I don't think we will make it either. It's just not 'done'.
Read the table. In order of GD. United would be 9th and that is your true level of performance. So few draws are just an lucky anomaly. You are nowhere near Tottenham´s or Villa´s level currently.
We beat Villa home and away.
Wrong. If you want to look at true level of performance, you should look at the xPTS table on understat.
Would personally recommend the premier League table.
How does this even matter? This isn’t a knockout fixture where that would give you an edge, this is about consistency in the league.
It matters in the 'they are lightyears ahead of us' nonsense spouted. We will end up close in the league and we will finish 5th or 6th which as usual will be about right over a 38 game season
Behind Villa and the one man team that sold the one man. Doesn't quite feel like a glass half-full situation the way you describe it.
And i think 5th or 6th place is not totally unexpected if you look at the players that have played a lot of matches for Manchester United this year. Spurs and Villa have quite a few players that would be starters for Manchester United.
Where have I claimed glass half full? We have been shit all season? We will be the 5th or 6th best team.
No that would be too much common sense. You need to look at X this and X that then watch Television X.
Villa and Spurs both have to play top 3. Ironically City and Liverpool can do us a favour.
I agree with that. But the problem is not about Spurs and Villa dropping points. Because they will.
