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I'm not sure why you ask that question, it wasn't a particularly difficult statement to understand.
Aside from the absurd idea, why on Earth would you take military actions against Israel?
To stop a fecking genocide? Jesus Christ, have you had your coffee today?
Months ago there were reports Israel wanted different clans and families to administer Gaza, a tried-and-failed method from decades ago. In the past couple of weeks there have been all sorts of reports saying Israel wanted to provide weapons for clans within Gaza, with a claim of intention to facilitate aid deliveries [Reuters] [Mada Masr] [Israel Hayom].
Last week there were reports that Israel contacted a group of Gaza's powerful clans and families with this offer, which was reportedly rejected by all, as they refused to cooperate except through the involvement of security services in Gaza, in other words Hamas' civilian authorities & police [Al Jazeera Arabic] [Younis Tirawi Twitter].
• Head of the families in Gaza informed UN officials at today's meeting that they refused to cooperate except through the security services in Gaza.
• The families expressed their willingness to cooperate in bringing in and distributing aid, provided that they coordinate with the security services in Gaza.
• Head of the Israeli military coordination personally contacted the families, but his offer of cooperation was rejected.
• An expected meeting on Saturday between UNRWA officials and the police officials in Gaza to agree on the mechanism for the entry of aid.
• The families expressed their willingness to cooperate in bringing in and distributing aid, provided that they coordinate with the security services in Gaza.
• Head of the Israeli military coordination personally contacted the families, but his offer of cooperation was rejected.
• An expected meeting on Saturday between UNRWA officials and the police officials in Gaza to agree on the mechanism for the entry of aid.
Since that Saturday meeting, Israel has killed at least 3 high profile Hamas police officials who were responsible for coordinating aid. Seems that they're trying to rapidly entrench a warlord disorder and ensure complete anarchy within Gaza by killing any possibility for order as they force millions to go hungry.
Isn't that''s what's already happened by way of Hamas and 10.7, subsequent Hezbollah attacks in the north, the constant flow of Iranian weapons to their regional proxies, the Houthis shooting missiles at Israel etc. ?
What other realistic military action are you proposing ?
I didn't say it was realistic. In a more moral world where the west actually backed up their bullshit, we'd be looking at a full ground invasion.
The US cutting the weapons and ammunition support would do the trick, you can even add economic sanctions if you want. They're the only country on this planet able to stop it, no one else can.
I think that you missed a couple of cups today.
The USA and its allies going there and ensuring all the bad actors from both sides are gone. They start to spread democracy and equality between all people on the entire land like they have done to so many countries before.
Well, it is Tuesday after Paddy's weekend so you'll have to forgive me.
I'm not sure that would stop them. I certainly don't think that would end the occupation overall, which is the only way to put an end to this in the long term.
US cutting weapons and ammunition would hamper the smoothness of the operation but in no way end what is happening in Gaza. Israel would find another way.
The International community would need to put much more pressure publicly. And if Israel would not budge, the UN should put boots on the ground in Gaza to protect the population and ensure the humanitarian aid. This in a reasonable world
Israel doesn't give a damn of its public image as long it doesn't affect the end result. The end result is the total occupation of palestine and if doing that they have a bad reputation, then be it. But if that bad reputation provokes that the international community takes action and physically impedes the Palestinian occupation and forces Israel to a 2 state solution, then they would stop
But the world is a shithole and that would never happen, so occupation of palestine and bad rep it is. Reputation can be improved along the years
Won't happen Israel isn't Serbia without any allies, US has their back.
A good summary, it started to happen less than 2 days after they secured aid for the first time in months in the north. Of course, a lot of the security personnel have been also targeted heavily during the last few months and the same has been going on in Rafah.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...storm-al-aqsa-in-the-last-10-days-of-ramadan/
*Ben-Gvir calls for Jews to storm Al-Aqsa in the last 10 days of Ramadan*
Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir demanded that Jews storm Al-Aqsa Mosque in the last ten days of Ramadan, according to Israeli media reports.
Israel’s Channel 13 reported that “Ben-Gvir demanded abolishing the well-known policy in Israel and allowing Jews to storm Al-Aqsa Mosque during the last ten days of Ramadan.”
It revealed that security officials were informed of Ben-Gvir’s request before the Council of Ministers discuss this matter over the next two weeks.
In light of the increased warnings of attacks on Muslims during the holy month, senior government officials expressed their concern by saying: “It is clear that Ben-Gvir’s position will not ultimately be accepted by the Prime Minister, but his very demand to deviate from the status quo that has been the norm in recent years will lead to ‘additional and unnecessary disruptions’.”
The Palestinian News Agency Wafa said in a report published last Monday that on the first day of Ramadan, Israeli forces placed barbed wire on the wall around the Lions’ Gate area adjacent to the Al-Aqsa Mosque complex.
Before that, occupation forces imposed restrictions and limitations on the entry of Palestinian worshippers to the Muslim Holy site for the first Taraweeh prayer of Ramadan.
*Ben-Gvir calls for Jews to storm Al-Aqsa in the last 10 days of Ramadan*
Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir demanded that Jews storm Al-Aqsa Mosque in the last ten days of Ramadan, according to Israeli media reports.
Israel’s Channel 13 reported that “Ben-Gvir demanded abolishing the well-known policy in Israel and allowing Jews to storm Al-Aqsa Mosque during the last ten days of Ramadan.”
It revealed that security officials were informed of Ben-Gvir’s request before the Council of Ministers discuss this matter over the next two weeks.
In light of the increased warnings of attacks on Muslims during the holy month, senior government officials expressed their concern by saying: “It is clear that Ben-Gvir’s position will not ultimately be accepted by the Prime Minister, but his very demand to deviate from the status quo that has been the norm in recent years will lead to ‘additional and unnecessary disruptions’.”
The Palestinian News Agency Wafa said in a report published last Monday that on the first day of Ramadan, Israeli forces placed barbed wire on the wall around the Lions’ Gate area adjacent to the Al-Aqsa Mosque complex.
Before that, occupation forces imposed restrictions and limitations on the entry of Palestinian worshippers to the Muslim Holy site for the first Taraweeh prayer of Ramadan.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/19/gaza-journalists-killed-israel-al-jazeera-footage
Interviews with 14 witnesses to the attack and colleagues of the slain reporters offer the most detailed account yet of the deadly incident. The Post found no indications that either man was operating as anything other than a journalist that day. Both passed through Israeli checkpoints on their way to the south early in the war; Dahdouh had recently been approved to leave Gaza, a rare privilege unlikely to have been granted to a known militant.
In response to multiple inquiries and detailed questions from The Post, the IDF said: “We have nothing further to add.”
Another addition to "They lie and they lie and they lie and they lie".
Interviews with 14 witnesses to the attack and colleagues of the slain reporters offer the most detailed account yet of the deadly incident. The Post found no indications that either man was operating as anything other than a journalist that day. Both passed through Israeli checkpoints on their way to the south early in the war; Dahdouh had recently been approved to leave Gaza, a rare privilege unlikely to have been granted to a known militant.
In response to multiple inquiries and detailed questions from The Post, the IDF said: “We have nothing further to add.”
Another addition to "They lie and they lie and they lie and they lie".
Here's what a nasty piece of fecal matter, coincidentally one of the architects of the Abraham Accords and member of the Trump administration, otherwise known as Jarod Kushner, thinks of Gaza and its future.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/jared-kushner-gaza-waterfront-property-israel-negev
There will be naturally be no backash of any kind.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/jared-kushner-gaza-waterfront-property-israel-negev
There will be naturally be no backash of any kind.
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Yes, I'm aware of that.
By who?
The west. Like I said earlier, in a world where the west actually backed up their bullshit.
What a piece of shit.
.To be fair, he has no idea where he is.
I bet he is saying to himself, " who is this guy talking with a weird accent"
At least 23 dead in Israeli attack on Gaza aid committee
Just no different from any terrorist organization, and anyone defending them is the same.
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Hopefully the Houthis keep sending those cruise missiles against Israel. And Hezbollah too. You can only fight fire with fire.
The US can but won't. Not now at least, even if Biden could do without it in an election year.
It's brown people we're talking about after all. The US governments, be it Democrat or Republican, used to bomb the living shit out of them and kill them in hundreds of thousands for the past 30 years.
You can imagine that +30,000 civilians dead, a whole city razed, organized famine, numerous war crimes, serious accusations of genocidal intent and a real possibility of ethnic cleansing at the end of the road just aren't enough yet for them to do something meaningful.
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Good fecking riddance.
That this sociopath and pathological liar was allowed to spread misinformation for so long is astonishing.
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There is no other way.
The US is the current world's superpower and provides vital financial and military help, as well as irreplaceable diplomatic cover for all their crimes. There's no other country in the world that could do the job for Israel. None.
Should the US shift their policy toward Israel, the rest of its lackeys around the world will fall in line and do as the master says.
No, they don't give a damn as long as the US goes along with what they're doing. That's why Israel has been able to do what it does for so long. The Israelis are pushing their luck at the moment though.
There is nothing in Rosenthal’s article that warrants such comparison. Why not stop at the statement that Jews don’t need Israel because they already live in New York? It would still be weird, comparing multicultural city and national state…but what is the point of antisemitic slur? You can 100 % disagree with Rosenthal’s position and make arguments against it. But to argue that his statements are basically of the same nature as the classic antisemitism is absurd in my opinion. To me it is as he almost looks for an excuse to bring up antisemitic card for no apparent reason.
The second quote, for me the key is the wording of parentheses – “as might conceivably be the case”, which he later (or earlier?) changed to “an empirical question, no doubt”. I have my interpretation why that happened. So frankly, the context didn’t change much. He knows how to use words and he certainly knows how to formulate ideas which wouldn’t directly point to him.
However, it is not only about two quotes. There are many pieces that paint the big picture. Chomsky debated Rudy Rochman three years ago. He was asked by the moderator about the Khazar theory, a deeply antisemitic myth that Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of Khazars in Caucasus and therefore have no historical connection to the Land of Israel. He claimed that it is not antisemitic, but rather a fact. When pointed out, that DNA research disproved his claim, he dismissed it again, as it doesn't really matter in current world, Jews are Jews. Here you can verify if such discussion even took place and what is the full context.
Other instances, whether its various forms of connection with neonazis under the false pretense of absolute freedom of speech or misinterpretation of historical events (e.g. Hebron massacre 1929) fall into that category as well.
Speaking in a broader sense he has been wrong on more than one occasion. It is not me saying. It is not any pro-Israeli person saying. It is not an American saying. It is his fellow philosophy colleague, Slavoj Zizek. What was the follow up? Chomsky accused Zizek of being racist, says Zizek.
But maybe even Zizek isn't enough.
I will stop with Open Letter to Noam Chomsky (and other like-minded intellectuals) on the Russia-Ukraine war by a group of Ukrainian academic economists, but that is maybe for another thread already.
From defunding the UNRWA to defunding Israel, that's some turn around.
Eh, his replacement will be no different. He, Miller, and others with similar roles are probably the lowest type of characters complicit in this genocide and that's saying something.
I don't know if you are missing something. It is up to you how you evaluate things. I have made my position clear here.
How did Chomsky get 1929 wrong in your opinion?