Are football ‘influencers’ ruining it?

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Klopp better than Fergie because of erm ….the Sport Science! :lol: I swear every month I see a debate like this and someone mentions “sports science”..
Sums up the 25 year old or younger football fan though. Kind of person who thinks football became good in 2008 and before then we were in the stone ages with football. Tactics weren’t a thing, nobody could run and all players were drunks.
I’m 25, don’t group me in with these kinds of people. More like 20 or younger.
 

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Klopp better than Fergie because of erm ….the Sport Science! :lol: I swear every month I see a debate like this and someone mentions “sports science”..
Sums up the 25 year old or younger football fan though. Kind of person who thinks football became good in 2008 and before then we were in the stone ages with football. Tactics weren’t a thing, nobody could run and all players were drunks.
Tsk. They played mere 4-4-2 in the past. Bunch of cavemen.
 

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Flex seems to pop up everywhere and gets more media jobs than most. Always on sky.
I think cos he’s quite safe and presentable. You never catch flex having a meltdown or slagging players off like a lot of these other lads.

I’m 25, don’t group me in with these kinds of people. More like 20 or younger.
hmm.. not sure. I mean you weren’t alive at the start of the treble season :p

Tsk. They played mere 4-4-2 in the past. Bunch of cavemen.
Haha yeah that old chestnut. Like Fergie wasn’t playing Scholesy in the hole in the early noughties.
 

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I get that a lot of these guys are crap and should be ignored, but what exactly is "it" that they are ruining? Does anyone take them seriously at any level?
 

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What the difference between listening to someone like Goldbridge or Chunkz, to some of absolute rubbish that is spouted by the likes of Jenas, Dixon, Souness and the like.
Because Jenas, Dixon and Souness have actually kicked a ball for bigger teams than the Dog & Duck Sunday Morning FC.
 

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We have to listen, or at least watch on mute, Jenas, Sounness etc. because they will be on the channel of the game we are watching. I don't think anyone listens to them out of choice when there's no game involved? I didn't even realise a 'watch along' was a thing until someone told me that's what Goldbridge does, it honestly boggles my mind that is popular but maybe I'm just old.

Issue here isn't football specific, masses of people will listen to whichever source of information has the most drama and 'hot' takes, if some bloke started a fan channel with only factual information and clear and concise arguments they'd get zero interest. in the same way the ITK aggregators have become minor celebrities, people just want to consume info, and most don't really care if it's true or not.
Only Fans, Only Facts.
 

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Because Jenas, Dixon and Souness have actually kicked a ball for bigger teams than the Dog & Duck Sunday Morning FC.
You didn’t read my post.

Nobody is listening to YouTubers for insightful football analysis.
 

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Nah they're alright. Better than listening to the mainstream media full of ex Liverpool and United players who are too worried to say anything controversial or give their honest opinions.
 

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I try to care or worry about what I can control. I mostly manage to achieve that. But I'm human so sometimes things stress me unduly.

So the noise that comes from low quality media is for others.

Far better to put our energy into quality discussions like RedCafe.
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Been watching a few HITC Sevens videos lately, think he's called Alfie? Harsh to mention him in this thread because he's not ruining anything, but I can't make up my mind if I like his stuff or not.

Covers some interesting topics on his youtube channel. I like long-form videos and his usually last 1/2 an hour which is another positive but I feel he could have taken 5-10 minutes to say what he did in 30 at times. Not all of the time though.

Has a peculiar speech pattern, emphasizing random words and pausing at odd times mid-sentence for no reason at all while reading his script which can be distracting to the point I've stopped watching once or twice. I saw an interview with him and he talks completely differently on that - sounds normal.
 
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Nah they're alright. Better than listening to the mainstream media full of ex Liverpool and United players who are too worried to say anything controversial or give their honest opinions.
My issue with that lot is that increasingly they are trying to be like the influencers. Carragher acts like a Liverpool fan channel, Neville shouts and moans like he's Goldbridge and Keane goes on more rants than AFTV now.
 

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Klopp better than Fergie because of erm ….the Sport Science! :lol: I swear every month I see a debate like this and someone mentions “sports science”..
Sums up the 25 year old or younger football fan though. Kind of person who thinks football became good in 2008 and before then we were in the stone ages with football. Tactics weren’t a thing, nobody could run and all players were drunks.
I do agree. Yes though, players at least in England/Scotland were much bigger drinkers and less fit pre 2000, tactics were less complicated and more predictable. The point is, you still had to be the best of the best to succeed as a player or manager. Similar to 'best player of all time' debates, younger folk dismiss the likes of Maradona, Best, Brazil Ronaldo and others just on numbers. Those guys were butchered and ok, they were relatively unmanageable loons. If you dropped them into modern football though, just starting out, with all the protection they'd get on and off the pitch, I have no doubt they'd be on Messi/Ronaldo type levels, definitely much bigger numbers.
 

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Been watching a few HITC Sevens videos lately, think he's called Alfie? Harsh to mention him in this thread because he's not ruining anything, but I can't make up my mind if I like his stuff or not.

Covers some interesting topics on his youtube channel. I like long-form videos and his usually last 1/2 an hour which is another positive but I feel he could have taken 5-10 minutes to say what he did in 30 at times. Not all of the time though.

Has a peculiar speech pattern, emphasizing random words and pausing at odd times mid-sentence for no reason at all while reading his script which can be distracting to the point I've stopped watching once or twice. I saw an interview with him and he talks completely differently on that - sounds normal.
I like him

His video on the England flag debacle was good
 

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Been watching a few HITC Sevens videos lately, think he's called Alfie? Harsh to mention him in this thread because he's not ruining anything, but I can't make up my mind if I like his stuff or not.

Covers some interesting topics on his youtube channel. I like long-form videos and his usually last 1/2 an hour which is another positive but I feel he could have taken 5-10 minutes to say what he did in 30 at times. Not all of the time though.

Has a peculiar speech pattern, emphasizing random words and pausing at odd times mid-sentence for no reason at all while reading his script which can be distracting to the point I've stopped watching once or twice. I saw an interview with him and he talks completely differently on that - sounds normal.
They are good, as is the Palace bloke HLTCO but they're not the type of people I really made the thread about. More the influencers who make click-baity content whether that is thumbnails, buzzword or otherwise. HITC and HLTCO are people who clearly meticulously research and prepare their content.
 

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"Influencer" covers so many different types of content creators that it has become meaningless, but the guys who do video essays, profiles on individual people, clubs and their arcs, football history, tactical analysis are a great addition to how we consume football. I also love the away days type channels such as StuntPegg. I watch a lot of the channels that do skills challenges as well. Actually, football Youtube is basically great.