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Are football ‘influencers’ ruining it?
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Abhorrent views?
ya absolute softie.So much for not being bitter and hostile towards fellow caftard angels.Abhorrent views?
This has to be the most ironic self-own you're ever going to see from the OP.
You've literally posted a video from Sky Sports and then go blaming the 'influencers'. All that's happening here is Sky replacing sensationalist content from moronic pundits and ex-players with other personalities, whatever you think about them (Rory is fun to watch but his football opinions are definitely suspect).
You've literally posted a video from Sky Sports and then go blaming the 'influencers'. All that's happening here is Sky replacing sensationalist content from moronic pundits and ex-players with other personalities, whatever you think about them (Rory is fun to watch but his football opinions are definitely suspect).
I dunno, for my money there's a difference between how you've carried yourself throughout this thread and me calling you an absolute softie cos you think the OP shared some abhorrent views (he didn't) but fair dos.So much for not being bitter and hostile towards fellow caftard angels.
Of course. There's no shortage of hypocrisy in this thread either.
Crack on by all means mate. You seem to be having a whale of a time.
I don’t think the ‘sensationalist’ stuff from pundits is as bad or as widespread as influencers. Perhaps I’m in the minority there but I think that the discourse and clickbait stuff they do is more prevalent. I also think there is a difference between new wave media and football influencers. There are a lot of YouTube people I like and that say good stuff. The lads at ToffeeTv I watch quite regularly for example and they are generally very sensible people. Unfortunately sky are now clinging onto getting people like Jennings, Thogden, Robbie from AFTV etc., who say deliberately biased and provocative things at a consistency that appears more saturated than previously.
Posts like these are a disgrace.
How does that translate into football discourses being ruined ?
Because a lot of the influencers post deliberately provocative and controversial tripe that gets clicked, shared and saturates social media.
The panel are paid to do a job and voice an opinion in a public forum with colossal reach that influences public discourse.
The only similarity between the three you mentioned is that they talk about the topic of football. The similarities also end there.
This is the type of content that the viewergroup 13-30 primarily consumes. Its purely fan driven content that doesnt actually try to have insight into football, because none of the people on the panel have the faintest idea what it is like to be a professional footballer. They watch it to watch the people banter, its not necessarily the opinions they have that are interesting to them.
Yeah but I think there are ways to avoid all that noise and just select what you wanna follow in terms of content. Some of them actually put in a lot more impressive than classic big broadcasters
I don’t disagree that some new wave media does, but I also think there is a difference between that new wave media and influencers.
Are influencer rights hugely important to you or something? Abhorrent ffsBut I don’t agree with the OP on this one. Yes the standard of the YouTube commentators / influencers on football is a bit poor but then again the stuff you see emanating from a TV studio is worse given it’s highly sanitised and safe.
Completely agree with you on this one. I also enjoy Toffee TV from time to time, it’s the only reason I might want Everton to stay up
Thogden, that sulky Brummie twat McKola and the rest of them are just shit and their content is shit.
Take McKola. He’s been doing the YouTube game for years and yet he still sits in the spare bedroom, in front of an old iPad with a Utd scarf hanging up behind him, and he just states the obvious or reads a Daily Mirror headline and claims it’s “news”.
The Athletic podcasts on Spotify is my preference. I enjoy their content, albeit that some may find it a tad pretentious at times.
Simply managed to monetize talking about football like we all do on here.
They're ail influencers basically, some produce good content and others is pure trash
Well, we basically agree (not surprised, you're one of the most sensible posters on here).
It's not about the influencers but about people and companies. Some fan channels are click-baity and annoying, others are much more sensible.
Same as TV and print media. This is why I find this finger-pointing bizarre.
If you just focussed on the deterioration of discourse in modern society which is also reflected in football, you might have a point
Nah I'd rather be bitter and jealous and condemn them for talking about a topic they are interested in. How fecking dare they!
I mean if someone finds the level of discourse shit they can point it out. Holding and presenting an opinion is pretty much what we all do here (and in general). Why is the OP bitter and jealous though? Did he have aspersions of being on the telly or something?
Yeah. All power to them for getting there, I just think it’s setting a bad trend for future football punditry. Some will agree, some won’t. That’s life.
The words of an extremely bitter and jealous man. psyche
Absolutely this. I mean, what's the point of watching some random talking about something they don't really know much about?
Except the thread literally refers to influencers isolating people based on them opting for a specific mode of communication with their audience. If you are gonna generalize and be condescending towards a bunch of people because they don't make the same choices as you and decide to use newer means while basically still end up doing the exact same thing that is talking about a certain topic then be prepared to be called out for spreading elitism and toxicity.
What's the point of reading a random bloke's post on an internet forum about something they don't really know much about?
For starters, we're actually interacting with each other.
You can interact with anyone hosting a video. It's 2023 ffs. And how does that criteria change everything? Again just because it's something that you do and others don't.
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Aaand there's the jealousy.Yeah, and for a small donation FutbullBroSiuu will read out your comment live
Hardly.
As a thicko who (sometimes) enjoys watching them on YouTube, I still don't want to see them on sky. It's pathetic that sky seem to be trying to emulate them. Even Keane, Neville and Souness seem to be egged on into going on rants and shouting matches for clicks.
They've no influence on football but I do think Sky Sports is trying to copy them in their football coverage. Everything's "HEATED" and the pundits seem to be encouraged to rant and shout.
They have been doing that “heated” thing for years
True, I'd say the YouTubers have naturally copied what they've been watching for years
I personally pay for my Sky subscription to see people who know about football, talk about football.
If I wanted the bants, I would go to YouTube or Tiktok.
If people like it, it has a place, but I would hate it if/when it starts to take away from genuine football shows. I don’t really want to see Carragher muse about Liverpool’s plight while being challenged by “Thogden”
Keep them separate so I can watch what I want to and there is no issue.
If I wanted the bants, I would go to YouTube or Tiktok.
If people like it, it has a place, but I would hate it if/when it starts to take away from genuine football shows. I don’t really want to see Carragher muse about Liverpool’s plight while being challenged by “Thogden”
Keep them separate so I can watch what I want to and there is no issue.
The last 2 or 3 years it seems to have gotten worse. It's like they've seen AFTV and gone for conflict. Keane being on all the time to demand United players kick people after a defeat, Carragher and Neville having stupid Liverpool v United arguments, Souness acting like an angry drunk uncle. Its a load of men in their 50s and 60s acting like 24 year old youtubers.
A bit of Arsenal fan tv when they were losing loads of games and had a few oddball / hateful characters was a guilty pleasure for a lot of us.
But I've no idea why anyone would want to watch Goldbridge reacting to games when the game is on. That's bonkers.
But I've no idea why anyone would want to watch Goldbridge reacting to games when the game is on. That's bonkers.
It might be partly jealousy but I'm turned off by football influencers who don't appear to support any team and just go to different matches. To me they come across as passion merchants and clout chasers.