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RedSky

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On 340,000 per week, signed for £42m and now 30 years old.

2021/22 - 22 Premier League games
2022/23 - 24 Premier League games
2023/24 - 19 Premier League games so far and injured once again.

Bravo, Man United.
TBF, he's barely missed any of this season to injury. He was benched for ages for no reason.
 

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TBF, he's barely missed any of this season to injury. He was benched for ages for no reason.
I wouldn't say 'no reason'.

He had already missed three of the first eight league games due to two different knocks (plus another where he had to go off at halftime due to injury), which is probably one of the reasons ETH was trying to use players who were more likely to stay fit. Then when he did play during those next two months he was mostly poor. Hell, even when he did come back in and was great against Liverpool, he instantly missed the very next match again through illness.

He's been an ever-present these last three months though, so it'll be disappointing if we lose him again now.
 

Fahad Jawaid

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Did he get a knock or was he substituted? The commentary team seemed to imply that him and Lindelof had knocks. For Lindelof it was obvious less so with him.
 

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Did he get a knock or was he substituted? The commentary team seemed to imply that him and Lindelof had knocks. For Lindelof it was obvious less so with him.
Took a knock not long before half time and true to form he didn’t make it back out. Whether that was a precaution or more I’m not sure. No chance it was tactical, he was our best defender in the first half.
 

Bondi77

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I know he is getting paid a monster wage but I wonder if he is enjoying this stage of his career.
He was at a club that has to be up there with the best of recent times and to put it mildly playing in a lot of games when he did not have to get out of second gear and still winning trophies regularly.
He is now at a club where he has to work his socks off in every game and the physical side has stepped right up and the climate is quite different as well and the team performances are up and down like a fiddlers elbow.
It would be interesting to bump into him in the local and have an honest conversation with him.
 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ncussion-Man-United-Man-City-horror-show.html

This doesn't sound like he's having much fun to me. Sounds like he should be taking a leaf out of Angus Brayshaw's book and calling it a day.
That sounds terrible and like he should be putting his health first. Jeff Astle amongst many from the 60's and 70's whose brains showed effects of CTE should be stark warning; this mightn't be NFL or boxing, but repeated head trauma is proven to be devastating in this sport too.

All well and good being 'brave' but shaving years off your post-career health is about the most ill-advised thing you can do.
 

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It can't be easy for the manager when he knows the CB pairing that starts the game, will not be the one that finishes.

United have an easy-out this summer for one of the biggest earners in the squad...take it and move on.
 

witchtrials

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What does he want? Heading the ball is part of football. Or does he want the rules to chance?
Literally says what he wants in the article.

The dangers of headers need to be taught on all amateur football pitches and to young people.
No matter how much the player says he wants to play, the medical staff have to veto it, because it puts players’ lives at risk
...and if he decides to push for a change in the rules then good for him. If my job was giving me a permanent brain injury I'd push for change too. Wouldn't you?

Football is a game. The rules can change, and discovering that the old rules are contributing to brain damage for the players is about the best reason for change I can imagine.
 

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Literally says what he wants in the article.





...and if he decides to push for a change in the rules then good for him. If my job was giving me a permanent brain injury I'd push for change too. Wouldn't you?

Football is a game. The rules can change, and discovering that the old rules are contributing to brain damage for the players is about the best reason for change I can imagine.
No matter how much the player says he wants to play, the medical staff have to veto it, because it puts players’ lives at risk
I say this regularly on here; many a sportsperson are their own worst enemy in terms of looking after themselves and the perception that you’re weak or letting others down is toxic machismo propagated by names as renowned as Mourinho who couldn’t care less for players and their health over the results he needs.
 

JPRouve

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I say this regularly on here; many a sportsperson are their own worst enemy in terms of looking after themselves and the perception that you’re weak or letting others down is toxic machismo propagated by names as renowned as Mourinho who couldn’t care less for players and their health over the results he needs.
I have said the same thing. I will always blame managers and medical staff for putting players on a team sheet or overplaying them. They are the ones that can easily protect athletes.
 

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I say this regularly on here; many a sportsperson are their own worst enemy in terms of looking after themselves and the perception that you’re weak or letting others down is toxic machismo propagated by names as renowned as Mourinho who couldn’t care less for players and their health over the results he needs.
I have said the same thing. I will always blame managers and medical staff for putting players on a team sheet or overplaying them. They are the ones that can easily protect athletes.
Rashford, Martial and Pogba under Mourinho/Ole :(
 

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Literally says what he wants in the article.





...and if he decides to push for a change in the rules then good for him. If my job was giving me a permanent brain injury I'd push for change too. Wouldn't you?

Football is a game. The rules can change, and discovering that the old rules are contributing to brain damage for the players is about the best reason for change I can imagine.
As valid as it is from a safety point of view, the trouble for contact sports like Football, Rugby, American Football, Boxing, MMA... is, it's not just a tweak of the rules, which is always happening. It's changing a massive part of the whole essence of those contact sports.

How do you keep Football recognisable without aerial challenges and heading? That's just 'no over head height' stuff. How do you keep Rugby and American Football pretty recognisable without Tackling? That's just Tick Rugby. And where do you start with Boxing and MMA? Helmets, like in the Amateurs, I guess? But that still leaves those brutal sports with many dangerous possibilities for short / long term health issues.

I definitely acknowledge the potential health issues, and we live in an era where that's only going to get ever more significance. But I don't see how you continue those sports close to their current format if you genuinely address the problem? As it all involves such fundamental aspects of the contact sports.
 

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As valid as it is from a safety point of view, the trouble for contact sports like Football, Rugby, American Football, Boxing, MMA... is, it's not just a tweak of the rules, which is always happening. It's changing a massive part of the whole essence of those contact sports.

How do you keep Football recognisable without aerial challenges and heading? That's just 'no over head height' stuff. How do you keep Rugby and American Football pretty recognisable without Tackling? That's just Tick Rugby. And where do you start with Boxing and MMA? Helmets, like in the Amateurs?

I definitely acknowledge the potential health issues, and we live in an era where that's only going to get ever more significance. But I don't see how you continue those sports close to their current format if you genuinely address the problem? As it all involves such fundamental aspects of the contact sports.
One of Varane’s suggestions is to limit heading in training to a bare minimum, which to me sounds sensible. A big part of the problem is the sheer number of micro-concussions over the span of a career.

Another solution could be mandatory Cech-like helmets.
 

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As valid as it is from a safety point of view, the trouble for contact sports like Football, Rugby, American Football, Boxing, MMA... is, it's not just a tweak of the rules, which is always happening. It's changing a massive part of the whole essence of those contact sports.

How do you keep Football recognisable without aerial challenges and heading? That's just 'no over head height' stuff. How do you keep Rugby and American Football pretty recognisable without Tackling? That's just Tick Rugby. And where do you start with Boxing and MMA? Helmets, like in the Amateurs, I guess? But that still leaves those brutal sports with many dangerous possibilities for short / long term health issues.

I definitely acknowledge the potential health issues, and we live in an era where that's only going to get ever more significance. But I don't see how you continue those sports close to their current format if you genuinely address the problem? As it all involves such fundamental aspects of the contact sports.
Agree but for pure fantasy's sake, imagine football without any aerial play?

It would be pretty wild as we may either have teams developing 11 x Messi's and/or Ibrahimovic's :cool:
 

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One of Varane’s suggestions is to limit heading in training to a bare minimum, which to me sounds sensible. A big part of the problem is the sheer number of micro-concussions.

Another solution could be mandatory Cech-like helmets.
I seem to remember that there is no proof that rugby helmets are useful for concussions. The main benefit in Rugby is to limit friction during scrums and avoid cauliflower ears. I could be wrong but the reason is that the padding isn't big enough and the brain is similarly banged against your skull.
 

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Ah, I did find it weird that it wasn’t mentioned on here. This place is the fastest place for breaking news.
Misquote. He said he previously ruled himself out of games this season due to concussion symptoms, not that he's ruled himself out of the rest of the season.
 

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Get rid in the summer.

Hopefully along with martial, rashford, greenwood, pellestri, antony, mctominay, casemiro, amrabat, eriksen, shaw, lindelof, wan bissaka, maguire, evans, malacia.

One can dream.
 

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What does he want? Heading the ball is part of football. Or does he want the rules to change?
Probably better concussion protocols and less heading at youth level like many have previously suggested anyway
 

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At least we now know why he rarely headed the ball for United. Type of comments you'd come out with once retired from the game.