On the positive side ...

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Onana, Kambwala, Mainoo, Garnacho, Mount and Hojlund are a decent base to rebuild this team, once we get the brain dead out the club. Martinez and Shaw, too, if they ever get off the physio table.

Come on, always look on the bright side, eh?
 
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One of the worst matches but one of the best matches ever.
 
Onana, Mainoo, Garnacho, Mount and Hojlund are a decent base to rebuild this team, once we get the brain dead out the club.

Come on, always look on the bright side, eh?
I’d add Dalot (been very good this year) and Martinez.
 
Onana is a liability still. He was terrible for the first goal.
 
Maybe, but out of the names you have listed, Mainoo is the only one I really see it with. Garnacho to an ever so slightly lesser extent. Those are the two, for me. The jury is very much out for the other three, in my opinion.
 
I loved Mount play when he came in, in pretty difficult circumstances I'd imagine.
 
Onana, Mainoo, Garnacho, Mount and Hojlund are a decent base to rebuild this team, once we get the brain dead out the club. Martinez and Shaw, too, if they ever get off the physio table.

Come on, always look on the bright side, eh?

I don’t know. You can’t get rid of everybody else in one go. And whatever the hell is wrong with this team seems to metastacize to the rest pretty quickly. It’s quite disheartening.
 
Dalot is not the right quality to build a foundation on. Maybe he can stay as a backup RB but he will never be good enough to be a starter for a team looking to challenge for the title
couldn't agree more. in the last few years we seem to have dropped our expectations of regulars and Dalot is one example. we are clutching straws with him.
 
Onana is a strange one to assess because i like aspects to his game but he's not a particularly good shot stopper in my opinion. If you put him in a team that controls possession and defends really well as a structure (City for instance) he'd seem a lot better. This chaos ball that we play doesn't exactly help him shine.

Agree that some of these players seem to have a very bright future though.
 
Onana, Mainoo, Garnacho, Mount and Hojlund are a decent base to rebuild this team, once we get the brain dead out the club. Martinez and Shaw, too, if they ever get off the physio table.

Come on, always look on the bright side, eh?
On a night like this, I think it is smart to avoid positives. Allow people get of their feelings.
 
Onana, Mainoo, Garnacho, Mount and Hojlund are a decent base to rebuild this team, once we get the brain dead out the club. Martinez and Shaw, too, if they ever get off the physio table.

Come on, always look on the bright side, eh?
Only 3 of those are worth keeping.
 
Dalot is not the right quality to build a foundation on. Maybe he can stay as a backup RB but he will never be good enough to be a starter for a team looking to challenge for the title
Call a Right back currently available that we can have? The right back market is shite
 
Dalot is not the right quality to build a foundation on. Maybe he can stay as a backup RB but he will never be good enough to be a starter for a team looking to challenge for the title
We aren't going to challenge for the title any time soon. Forget about that. After a decade of wrong decisions, we're pretty much a decade of right decisions away.
 
I disagree OP. Mainoo is still early days. He has class about him but I worry about his positioning when the other team has the ball, his stamina and general tenacity. Definitely quality on the ball but his overall game is lacking.

Højlund has not convinced me yet. More bad performances than good. He still hasn't gotten in sync with the team. His runs doesn't mesh with the passing or the runs of others.

Onana is average. He's fine but we overpaid. I guess you can build around him in a sense that it makes playing out the back easier. His weakness seems to be saving shots that go along the ground. Best way to score on him is to shoot below the knee.

Mount we have barely seen yet. Definitely the sort we've been missing this season, especially if you want quicker passing and better pressing.

There are elements to be hopeful about like Garnacho and Mainoo but a new manager and like 5 new starters are needed. It's all a mess.
 
Onana is a liability still. He was terrible for the first goal.

I have to agree. We have too many other areas which are now priority this summer, but another weak season like this and we should be looking to replace Onana.

What good is a goalkeeper if they can't make saves other than those straight at you? Even simple saves look awkward for him.

That picture of Garnacho, Hojlund and Mainoo will become iconic for being the future core of the team.
 
The positive is the season's almost over and we've got the Euros to look forward to. Oh wait, I'm an England fan and we have an equally incompetent manager...
 
Onana is a liability still. He was terrible for the first goal.
He doesn't pass the eye test for me. Too many cases this season where we conceded goals that weren't his fault, but where he should've done better. Also has a tendency to parry shots into danger.
 
I’d add Dalot (been very good this year) and Martinez.
Dalot's been at united since 2018, he's been okay this season, why do fans always think a period of decent football should mean they're going to take us where we need to get. It's getting ridiculous

He really is a backup RB if you're really thinking of beating a City to a title in the future, people need to get their heads screwed on the quality that's truly needed to get us a level higher - and yes, I say that for half of the squad.
 
Dust needs to settle but not a night to be looking at any positivea when losing especially in that manner and to concede four goals to a Chelsea side who have been worse than United this season.
 
You have got to be fecking kidding me.

Onana has all the fortitude of a poppadom and the agility of a pensioner on a solid dose of weed.

Hojlund has been less than stellar despite the physical effort. His game is nowhere the level to start for us, especially at 70m.

Mount is a discount London Beckham who is a complete waste of money and won't play because the Portuguese fraud captain shall always play no matter the man in charge.

I honestly didn't think I could ever have no hope but that's where I am right now given the names (Southgate uurgh) being linked to replace the current fraud-in-chief.
 
Dalot is not the right quality to build a foundation on. Maybe he can stay as a backup RB but he will never be good enough to be a starter for a team looking to challenge for the title
Is the correct answer. Genuinely shocked people think he’s had this player of the year contender season.
 
You have got to be fecking kidding me.

Onana has all the fortitude of a poppadom and the agility of a pensioner on a solid dose of weed.

Hojlund has been less than stellar despite the physical effort. His game is nowhere the level to start for us, especially at 70m.

Mount is a discount London Beckham who is a complete waste of money and won't play because the Portuguese fraud captain shall always play no matter the man in charge.

I honestly didn't think I could ever have no hope but that's where I am right now given the names (Southgate uurgh) being linked to replace the current fraud-in-chief.
Onana gets done by shots that bounce right in front of him..
His technique is unorthodox ..and he tries to palm the ball away
Today's goal, Ziyech's freekick are all similar goals he has conceded
 
I was just thinking what positives will he actually leave behind.

There's only Mainoo and Garnacho really and you can question his impact on them.

All of his signings have question marks over them for the next manager.

I'm far from convinced by Hojlund yet, same with Onana and I don't think Martinez will be first choice in a back 4 under a lot of managers.
 
I don’t know. You can’t get rid of everybody else in one go. And whatever the hell is wrong with this team seems to metastacize to the rest pretty quickly. It’s quite disheartening.
Thats why we need to get shot of as many as possible as soon as possible; Maguire, Varane, Lindelof, Shaw, Antony, Wan Bissaka, Van De Beek, Rashford, Eriksen, Martial, Sancho, get them out before their lack of ambition, desire and spirit infects the younger players.
Yes, Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Antony, all played well tonight, but next match you just know they'll be crap again. As for Rashford the less said the better and Onana is an accident waiting to happen. The trouble is which properly run, ambitious club would want any of them?
 
Eth if he gets sack, Onana is next out door, somehow I can't see another manager putting up with him but who knows.. Mainoo, Garnacho are plusses
 
On the positive side just one more month till this season ends and we get rid of ETH
 
Onana gets done by shots that bounce right in front of him..
His technique is unorthodox ..and he tries to palm the ball away
Today's goal, Ziyech's freekick are all similar goals he has conceded
Don't forget the other goal Palmer scored against us
 
...the pathetic bunch of cretins will get their pay reduced by 25%.
 
If we replace the manager with a better manager that list will grow dramatically.
Genuinely curious, any names from the current squad you'd add to that list? I'm just not sure I trust Rashford, Mctominay, Maguire, Shaw, Lindelof, AwB and Bruno to transform into vital parts of a title winning team having been, in some cases, under 3 or 4 different managers here already. Add to this Varane, Casemiro, Eriksen, Evans, who are clearly not part of the future and it looks a hell of a rebuild in order.

Blame EtH AND the previous managers and the club for this mess i'd argue.