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Things ticking along very nicely now under Cox and It seems like we are going to be even more competitive in the domestic youth market under INEOS. Hopefully we can start winning the youth cup a bit more often. Then those players will be worth a lot more money and the standard of player making his way into our squad is literally the best in the country. I can’t wait to see the highlights of this :drool:
 
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I think Scanlon benefitted a bit from his senior international experience last week. Taste of what senior football is like and how physical it can get (Lithuania kicked lumps out of Gibraltar's players in both legs) probably gave him some idea of what he needs to do to mitigate that. Saw it in his movement today.
 

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Funny comments on RAWK asking why United don't give more opportunities to academy players
It is, they played the kids for 2 games and acted like they were the new Class of 92 while we’ve had 2 teenagers start for us all season.
 

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Not watching currently but I have said this a couple of times this season. Him and Missin have been the most improved players this season for me.

I've liked Wheatley since I first saw him this season, glad to see he's continuing to improve.

Same

You could see early on that he could lead the line very well for this team with his hard work and link-up play.

He has some good attributes to be a decent CF imo. Still there's lots of room for improvement here's hoping he continues to develop.

Glad he got his goals today. Took them very well.

The whole team played really well. What a result!
 

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It is, they played the kids for 2 games and acted like they were the new Class of 92 while we’ve had 2 teenagers start for us all season.
I blame Neville for spouting that "Klopp's kids" bullshit.
 

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Same

You could see early on that he could lead the line very well for this team with his hard work and link-up play.

He has some good attributes to be a decent CF imo. Still there's lots of room for improvement here's hoping he continues to develop.

Glad he got his goals today. Took them very well.

The whole team played really well. What a result!
Exactly what I thought about him first time around. :lol: What I like about him now is he seems to have added composure to his game. That 3rd goal was brilliantly taken.

Hopefully we can find him a loan next season. He's clearly better than u18s level now and I don't know if playing in u21s is any good for development.
 

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I blame Neville for spouting that "Klopp's kids" bullshit.
Yeah he’s a dick head for that, the majority of them will be at Norwich in 2 years. Scousers are really stupid though so I’m not surprised they fell for the rhetoric, they’re basically like Trump supporters.
 

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Things ticking along very nicely now under Cox and It seems like we are going to be even more competitive in the domestic youth market under INEOS. Hopefully we can start winning the youth cup a bit more often. Then those players will be worth a lot more money and the standard of player making his way into our squad is literally the best in the country. I can’t wait to see the highlights of this :drool:
Highlights

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@Mr. MUJAC is this our biggest U18 win against Liverpool? What is our biggest win in the last say 20 years?
Haven't got more than maybe 10% of his knowledge but I have followed the reserves and U18 quite closely the last 20 years so I will give it a try.

The biggest wins I recall in the last 15-20 years :

We beat Birmingham in a cup-tie 8-2 in 2021 (Hat-trick from both Norkett and Garnacho)

We beat Sunderland away 7-0 (Greenwood scored 2) in 2018

We beat Boro 8-1 in 2021 (Hat-trick from McNeill and one from Garnacho)

We beat Newcastle 7-1 in 2016 - with arguably one of our least talented sides over the last 10 years - Dorrington; Reid, Warren, Scott, Olosunde (Dunne 75); McIntosh-Buffonge, Whelan (Sang 65), Kehinde, Boonen; Gomes, Dearnley
Indy Boonen got a hat-trick

And we have had a few 6-0 wins

But I can not recall another 8-goal win - against any team. And I can only remember 1 more game which had 10 goals in it. 2 years ago against Liverpool when the match ended 5-5. Liverpool were 4-1 up in the 70th minute - and 5-3 up in the 80th minute - but we scored twice through Ennis and Hugill to get a draw.
 

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@lysglimt @Mr. MUJAC ….

I know Amass (not playing today) has been touted for the top but do any of this group look like they could be first team squad any time soon (aka step up ahead of their years like a Mainoo)?
Quite a few of them in my opinion - but realistically most of them of course wont.

Harrison has something special about him - with the ball at his feet, he is probably up there with the best in the P.L. But of course as a goalkeeper you are unlikely to get chances playing for a club like United.

Amass as you mentioned - look special. I would also say that Kamason could go far. He is a modern full-back with pace and good skills.

Midfield - Jack Fletcher look very good - I would like for him to have a bit more pace - but apart from that he has a lot in his locker. Baumann, McAllister and Devaney all look good - but in terms of potential I rate tham all behind Fletcher.

Scanlon looks like a really good attacking midfielder, really smart player who makes good runs. Lacey in terms of skills on the ball is perhaps the most talented of them all - but he is a bit slow and lightweight. If he played for Guardiola - he would be perfect. Mantato looks like a really special player, and Williams also has a decent chance because of his pace, skills and ability to put the ball in the back of the net.

I have many times questioned Wheatley in front of goal - but now he is starting to score a lot of goals from open play, and he is both strong, fast and with a powerful shot.

I would be surprised if 2-3 of these players aren't around the first-team by the start of 25/26. And I would rate Fletcher, Amass, Wheatley, Mantato and Lacey as the most likely - in no particular order.
 

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Quite a few of them in my opinion - but realistically most of them of course wont.

Harrison has something special about him - with the ball at his feet, he is probably up there with the best in the P.L. But of course as a goalkeeper you are unlikely to get chances playing for a club like United.

Amass as you mentioned - look special. I would also say that Kamason could go far. He is a modern full-back with pace and good skills.

Midfield - Jack Fletcher look very good - I would like for him to have a bit more pace - but apart from that he has a lot in his locker. Baumann, McAllister and Devaney all look good - but in terms of potential I rate tham all behind Fletcher.

Scanlon looks like a really good attacking midfielder, really smart player who makes good runs. Lacey in terms of skills on the ball is perhaps the most talented of them all - but he is a bit slow and lightweight. If he played for Guardiola - he would be perfect. Mantato looks like a really special player, and Williams also has a decent chance because of his pace, skills and ability to put the ball in the back of the net.

I have many times questioned Wheatley in front of goal - but now he is starting to score a lot of goals from open play, and he is both strong, fast and with a powerful shot.

I would be surprised if 2-3 of these players aren't around the first-team by the start of 25/26. And I would rate Fletcher, Amass, Wheatley, Mantato and Lacey as the most likely - in no particular order.
Forgot Fritzegald.
 

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@lysglimt @Mr. MUJAC ….

I know Amass (not playing today) has been touted for the top but do any of this group look like they could be first team squad any time soon (aka step up ahead of their years like a Mainoo)?
This is one of our best sides in the 20 years I've followed the club.

Amass Fletch Lacey Harrison and Williams will all play for the senior team 100%. The next set of Mantato Macallister Missin Wheatley etc have a great chance as well. Will they be Mainoo esque not so sure.
 

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Yeah he’s a dick head for that, the majority of them will be at Norwich in 2 years. Scousers are really stupid though so I’m not surprised they fell for the rhetoric, they’re basically like Trump supporters.
They have a couple of very decent players around the first team like Jones and Bradley but they're in their 20s now - they were the stars of an older youth team, and the standard appears to have dropped since. Whereas United are seemingly experiencing a new golden generation (if they're coached properly).
 
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Quite a few of them in my opinion - but realistically most of them of course wont.

Harrison has something special about him - with the ball at his feet, he is probably up there with the best in the P.L. But of course as a goalkeeper you are unlikely to get chances playing for a club like United.

Amass as you mentioned - look special. I would also say that Kamason could go far. He is a modern full-back with pace and good skills.

Midfield - Jack Fletcher look very good - I would like for him to have a bit more pace - but apart from that he has a lot in his locker. Baumann, McAllister and Devaney all look good - but in terms of potential I rate tham all behind Fletcher.

Scanlon looks like a really good attacking midfielder, really smart player who makes good runs. Lacey in terms of skills on the ball is perhaps the most talented of them all - but he is a bit slow and lightweight. If he played for Guardiola - he would be perfect. Mantato looks like a really special player, and Williams also has a decent chance because of his pace, skills and ability to put the ball in the back of the net.

I have many times questioned Wheatley in front of goal - but now he is starting to score a lot of goals from open play, and he is both strong, fast and with a powerful shot.

I would be surprised if 2-3 of these players aren't around the first-team by the start of 25/26. And I would rate Fletcher, Amass, Wheatley, Mantato and Lacey as the most likely - in no particular order.
Thanks for detailed reply.

Id always want a good youth player over a good buy. Obviously for the cost, but players who have come through the ranks should be more likely to have a strong ‘give it all’ attitude when they come through and get their chance.
 

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Klopp’s Kids eh?
 

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Cool!

Given the Ajax way and Ten Hag working with youth (he gave 23 academy players their debut and I think de Ligt and de Jong were 19 for that Spurs semi… though obviously exceptional), I bet he’d like to get through another year or two to see if they start coming through
And if the higher-ups decide something else for Ten Hag, this is the reason why I want Ruud to pick up the pieces. Ruud also did that job of player development to solid effect with PSV Eindhoven as he went step by step from being the U17 coaching intern all the way to become the full-time manager.
 

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One defeat for the U18s since Phil jones became a coach? Needs to be promoted up to the senior team perhaps...
 

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One defeat for the U18s since Phil jones became a coach? Needs to be promoted up to the senior team perhaps...
Didn't know Jones was part of the U18 coaching setup now. He's always been said to have a good football brain even though his body very much let him down in the latter years of his career, so he could probably go far as a coach.