Bollocks. All those managers with £410.9 million spent and two seasons to implement their tactics would have achieved top 4 at least with ease.
The number 1 attribute we need in a new manager
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Nope, nopity, nope. We need someone who has a vision of how to play football in a way that's commensurate to our history, stature and expectations connected to this bloody club.
I couldn't care less about developing players as long as we have a way of playing and purchase players that work within that framework. If we want to hire someone to develop youth talent because the Glazers are still using us to pay their fecking debt, more power to them but we need to win stuff first and be entertaining, stuff the rest.
I couldn't care less about developing players as long as we have a way of playing and purchase players that work within that framework. If we want to hire someone to develop youth talent because the Glazers are still using us to pay their fecking debt, more power to them but we need to win stuff first and be entertaining, stuff the rest.
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This would be my choice as well. It's also what I expected from ETH but he clearly hasnt been able to do it and I have no hope he'll be able to turn it around.The ability to instill a defined, dominant, attacking style of play that's not thoroughly dependent to very specific players being available.
I know you asked for 1, but 2 would be meritocracy (also, I'd add Amad to your list of key future players)
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Don't change the subject! I said "with this garbage players". How much was spent is irrelvant because it was spent horribly. With these players, nobody can get consistency or excellenceBollocks. All those managers with £410.9 million spent and two seasons to implement their tactics would have achieved top 4 at least with ease.
UnofficialDevil
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Yeah no that excuse isn’t working anymore. None of the managers you mentioned would get battered and humiliated by a Brentford side missing their entire back 4 line, even with these garbage as you say players. sorry but it’s the manager that’s garbage.Don't change the subject! I said "with this garbage players". How much was spent is irrelvant because it was spent horribly. With these players, nobody can get consistency or excellence
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You need personality and look like you belong there whereas Ten Hag has no personality and looking like a fish out of water at United
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Being able to identify which player(s) need to be fecking benched.
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is the ability to develop players(especially young players). Our future is in the hands of Mainoo, Rasmus, Garnacho. If these three continue to improve and develop then we have a chance. If we are relying on the senior players to carry this team into the future we are fecked. Of course recruitment will also be key and I could see an argument that talent recognition might be equally important.
Above a winning past, tactics or personality, I think player development is the key thing INEOS should look at when replacing ETH this summer who is pretty much a dead man walking.
Do you agree and if not what would be the number 1 attribute you think we need in the new boss?
Both of these roads lead to De Zerbi imho. Listening to what former players and other managers say about him, he has the positional system drilled into players down to the millimeter, and he improves players. Kevin Boateng, who played under a lot of managers, said De Zerbi was the best and improved him the most.The ability to instill a defined, dominant, attacking style of play that's not thoroughly dependent to very specific players being available.
I know you asked for 1, but 2 would be meritocracy (also, I'd add Amad to your list of key future players)
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Fergieness! Don't put up with shit from players, referees or the media.
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He needs to be ruthless and not giving a feck.
Dropping rashford and not giving a brexshit about Maguire or anyone else
Dropping rashford and not giving a brexshit about Maguire or anyone else
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Yeah we definitely lack a manager with plan BAn ability to adapt.
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A manager who will implement and stick with his tactics. And if the players currently on the squad can't cope with said tactics, ship them off. No manager should be coming in and adapting his tactics to the shite that we have now.
This....manager who will implement his tactics and anyone on the squad who can't cope, ships them off. Someone who does not play favorites.An IDGAF attitude and the cojones to sell star players. Iron hand discipline
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Cracking last paragraph. I like that, well said.I love this! We’ll never know whose fault it is when we still don’t win.
We should pack the coaching department with the best young modern coaches, preferably low profile. Make one of them head of first team coaching reporting to the manager. Manager remains ultimately responsible for first team performance. DoF works alongside manager to direct and be responsible for implementing recruitment of all players and coaches and for getting structure and infrastructure right.
Clearly one guy cannot do it all but the guy doing the post-match interviews and carrying the can for the inevitable failure should be the guy who has made most of the key decisions leading to the quality of players on the pitch and how well they perform. This is above the pay grade of a coach.
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There can't be a single attribute a new manager needs to have
we can get a manager with a good system and style of play.....
this will be nothing and they will fail if the person doesnt have the charisma and personality to handle the job and win the players over
what players are looking at the United project right now and thinking I really want to play for Ten Hag?
id say if there will be massive teething issues with the problematic squad ( a mish mash of players on large wages we cant move on) and will the manager get the support they need in terms of transfers?
if there was a factor rather than an attribute our manager needs to be fortunate. fortunate in a number of areas (transfers in and out, patience from fans, injuries)
we can get a manager with a good system and style of play.....
this will be nothing and they will fail if the person doesnt have the charisma and personality to handle the job and win the players over
what players are looking at the United project right now and thinking I really want to play for Ten Hag?
id say if there will be massive teething issues with the problematic squad ( a mish mash of players on large wages we cant move on) and will the manager get the support they need in terms of transfers?
if there was a factor rather than an attribute our manager needs to be fortunate. fortunate in a number of areas (transfers in and out, patience from fans, injuries)
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Ancelotti's league history isn't great. Klopp scraped 4th twice in his first 3 seasons. 1 point ahead of 5th. Nothing easy about it. World transfer record for a defender that season as well. It did take that kind of money guided by professionals to help achieve the right players and it took time, managing to challenge for the title in their 4th season.Bollocks. All those managers with £410.9 million spent and two seasons to implement their tactics would have achieved top 4 at least with ease.
In those 4 seasons the most stable team was Spurs. Rest of the top was a yoyo mess. City stabilized with Pep obviously.
I imagine Klopp could do it in two seasons but not guaranteed no. Pep probably would but he's always had a very strong foundation to build his teams on, a team with winners. Not sure if his erratic personality would work with subpar mentality that our players possess. Him taking over SAF however and I could have seen him win retain the title rather than obliterating the club like Moyes did.
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Someone with a principle that sticks with his beliefs and doesnt compromise for the big name players if they dont perform and put half assed contribution in, then drop them for players who do perform how he wants.
Dropping a player for a game then still get the same shit when put back in, then drop them for the next 3 games at least. Still dont perform after that then look at selling and put them on the transfer list. Show who is the boss.
Of course the DOF has to be onboard with this, but surely thats a discussion the next manager has with Ashworth, (or whoever is covering for him, if its before he is in post), so he knows if he is being backed before he starts.
Dropping a player for a game then still get the same shit when put back in, then drop them for the next 3 games at least. Still dont perform after that then look at selling and put them on the transfer list. Show who is the boss.
Of course the DOF has to be onboard with this, but surely thats a discussion the next manager has with Ashworth, (or whoever is covering for him, if its before he is in post), so he knows if he is being backed before he starts.
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Man management is the most important initially. Managers like Ancelotti, Klopp and Ferguson were the best at it and are legends as a result of it.
Why did we never get Ancelotti when he was at Everton?
Why did we never get Ancelotti when he was at Everton?
Yeah he seems to have little or no way to setup or change in game. That said it's fine to have your system and setup and stick to that but his isn't working at all so a adaptation would be a nice skill to have in a manager.Yeah we definitely lack a manager with plan B
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Looking at Ten Hag, "common sense" indeed seems like a good answer.Common sense
But honestly, I would welcome a good tactical coach. Seems like the only good tactician we had in the last 15 years was LvG, but the fanbase thought we should go from A to Z in one season so he was sacked despite laying good foundations in place.
In reality, we should go for all-round manager as this squad isn't easy to manage.
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Controlled attacking
Mourinho could control matches but not as much as yesteryear. Van Gaal did too but it would put you to sleep. Ole's teams could attack but we were rarely in control of matches.
Solid base, controlled midfield and exciting attacking players to watch. It's not rocket science and it's something we haven't had in 11 years.
Mourinho could control matches but not as much as yesteryear. Van Gaal did too but it would put you to sleep. Ole's teams could attack but we were rarely in control of matches.
Solid base, controlled midfield and exciting attacking players to watch. It's not rocket science and it's something we haven't had in 11 years.
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Don't be: Moyes, LvG, Jose, Ole, Ralf or ETH.
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To stop talking about 'United DNA' and 'the United way'. It's absolute bollocks because we haven't won a title in over a decade. Everything we achieved under SAF, when undeniably we had good DNA, has gone and since then we don't have anything to represent any good 'DNA'. It's like managers are pandering to the fans with all this talk and I don't think it's needed. It's empty words anyway - ETH talks about 'we're Man United and we must win' then sets up to get dry bummed.
I want the next manager/first team coach, to come in and say how we are going to play, what we need to do to play like this, accept the bumps in the road as long as we are travelling forwards, and make their own stamp on United. Balls to pissing DNA because any last strand of decent DNA left the club years ago and we are currently in dog shit central.
I want the next manager/first team coach, to come in and say how we are going to play, what we need to do to play like this, accept the bumps in the road as long as we are travelling forwards, and make their own stamp on United. Balls to pissing DNA because any last strand of decent DNA left the club years ago and we are currently in dog shit central.
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Yeah to hell with whatever it says in Rashford's contract about how many mins givenHe needs to be ruthless and not giving a feck.
Dropping rashford and not giving a brexshit about Maguire or anyone else