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Is there a stat man (or woman) out there who can provide a premier League table of goals scored from corners for the last 100?
I was going to look up our record defending them as we’ve got far better. We do look more likely to concede than score from one of our own thoughJaysus, even when we win the first thing people do is complain.
No mention of how we’ve gone from 2nd worst to 5th best at defending set pieces though.
hardly relevant if the long term conversion is 1%, not saying it is 1% but if it isWest Ham and Wolves have scored 7.8% this season.
Arsenal have scored 7%.
Liverpool and Chelsea 5.8%.
I think we conceded 2 goals from corners to Leicester and the last minute goal to Aston Villa. I might be missing one or two.Anyone know how many corners against us? And how many goals have we conceded from that?
I remember reading that the historical average was around 5%. One in every twenty corners.West Ham and Wolves have scored 7.8% this season.
Arsenal have scored 7%.
Liverpool and Chelsea 5.8%.
Didn’t we score one in the CL vs Villarreal? Telles volley.The 6th corner tonight versus Burnley was our 100th corner this season. Yes I’ve been counting
No goals! Zero. Nada.
Will we ever score from a corner again?
Free kick.Didn’t we score one in the CL vs Villarreal? Telles volley.
Really really really bad leagues wouldn’t even have such data available. The quality of league will be inconsequential anyway, poorer attacking players is offset by poorer defending players.I remember reading that the historical average was around 5%. One in every twenty corners.
Maybe the person who calculated 1% included really really really really bad leagues?
We aren’t shit at defending them though, we have the 5th best record in the league.Shit at doing them. Shit at defending them
It would be interesting to find out if it's inconsequential or not.Really really really bad leagues wouldn’t even have such data available. The quality of league will be inconsequential anyway, poorer attacking players is offset by poorer defending players.
Either way the Reddit percent is for direct from corner goals. So no knockdowns or short corners which both lead to more goals than direct 2nd touch shots
In total, all types of corners typically are around 3% scored.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/english...orners-are-overrated-for-scoring?platform=amp
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2014/06/17/what-is-a-corner-kick-worth-in-soccer/
We flap around like helpless fish, and yet at the other end they take care of ours with ease. Stats might say otherwise but we’re far from convincing at dealing with them.We aren’t shit at defending them though, we have the 5th best record in the league.
Some say, he took the corner himself too.The last player to score from a corner was Phil Jones would you believe
Fire that man. His mate is already out too. What's the waitingWe hired a 'set piece expert' at the start of the season didn't we? There's a man that will be dreading his annual performance review
The premier league website can show you the stats for how many corners we've won so far in league games. Pretty sure you could do the same with the Champions league.Regardless, did you really count all our corners in every game this season ? A little bit too much, eh ?
Mute point using historic data, (I’ve still not seen the 1% data?), as teams now have staff dedicated to training corners and set pieces. They are becoming a bigger part of the game and getting more training time.hardly relevant if the long term conversion is 1%, not saying it is 1% but if it is
Everton scored against us, Fred didn't take the guy out at the halfway line right at the touchline. We are definitely in the minus goals from our own cornersWe must have conceded more than once from those 100 corners as well
Using this seasons PL data, which is all I care about, as that’s where Man United play, yes I would tend to believe the 5% average figure.I remember reading that the historical average was around 5%. One in every twenty corners.
Maybe the person who calculated 1% included really really really really bad leagues?
Maybe this is actually our tactic that our new set piece coach has ingeniously invented.Our corners are poor, but one thing I have noticed recently is we seem to be well positioned for the second ball after it’s inevitably cleared.
Happened several times tonight where we were able to get a second chance at crossing/shooting. Previously we seemed to get countered quite often in these situations.
They have probably worked on this positioning but I doubt it’s the primary tactic.Maybe this is actually our tactic that our new set piece coach has ingeniously invented.
I know, i was being sarcastic about the absurdity of the whole situation. Hiring a set piece "specialist" and are the only team not to score from one, and having a team with i'd like to think enough technical quality that at least someone can take a decent corner but i guess not.They have probably worked on this positioning but I doubt it’s the primary tactic.
There’s not a lot a set piece coach can do to get a corner taker to play the ball higher to beat the first man, it’s a minimum requirement of a pro footballer, all he can do is position the players and give instruction on where to play the ball. Not his fault the players can’t execute something so simple.
We didn't hire a set piece specialist we hired a no mark with 1 year coaching U23s at Chelsea on his cv, because he's uni pals with McKenna, and then called him a highly-rated set piece coach as PR spin.I know, i was being sarcastic about the absurdity of the whole situation. Hiring a set piece "specialist" and are the only team not to score from one, and having a team with i'd like to think enough technical quality that at least someone can take a decent corner but i guess not.
That's why i put "specialist", he is in no way qualified for the role and makes it seem like he's won a competition or something. The thing is we don't even look like we put any thought in our set piece routines just whip it in, hit the first man and hope for the best.We didn't hire a set piece specialist we hired a no mark with 1 year coaching U23s at Chelsea on his cv, because he's uni pals with McKenna, and then called him a highly-rated set piece coach as PR spin.