11 corners today

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

I don’t think Shaw is the problem. His delivery is actually good and in the right areas like the 6 yard box. Our players can’t seem to get on the end of his crossed.

I agree. Most of his deliveries were very good, but our movement was poor. And when Maguire gets on one, his accuracy is poor.

I'd guess Maguire is better at them for England because he often meets the header with a lot more space. England routinely make good movements in the box at set pieces, and they pull defenders all over the place. Whereas United players generally stand in a cluster. Maguire seems to just be winning the header out of a crowd of players, rather than with any real purpose.

I'd keep Shaw on them, but also add another taker for a bit of variation.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

"Roughly three per cent of all corners have led to goals."

Anyone know our precentege?

Someone calculated this a while back. Think it was like 0.4% or something.

 

[RedorDead21]

50% of corners should go short to mix it up. Pointless putting in these corners with zero goals. To be fair across the PL in the last 5 years it does seem corner to goals ratio is prob less than 5%. If shaw puts one in high as he seems to then you just know no one can do anything with it before it’s even near the box.

 

[Bestietom]

We have a lot of 6 feet plus players in our team and we should be scoring more from these corners and set pieces. We need coaching on this as they just seem to be getting in each others way.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

You think Greenwood can swing an in swinging corner with his right foot?

Why can’t he?

 

[OverratedOpinion]

Maybe this was why Phil Jones got a new contract.

 

[Bertie 2 Hats]

Before the start of this season we hired Eric Ramsay as a specialist set-piece coach to improve both defensive & attacking aspects of our game which was a serious problem last season... I assume that our statistics in this area over the season will show if any improvements have been made or not by his appointment.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

I believe was, it was a great save.

For me, I just think the quality on the deliveries is so poor. Ridiculously poor, that's why people get annoyed at failed corners more so than not scoring from them.

Yeah despite what I am saying and not believing corners are that valuable. I do agree that the floated delivery is a bit rubbish.

I also think in my experience the most effective strategy at corners is putting a bunch of tall players right on top of the goalkeeper and absolutely hammering the ball towards the mess of bodies.

I also think we aim too many at Maguire who despite being a wonderful player is fundamentally terrible at aiming headers with any degree of accuracy.

 

[Oranges038]

Yeah despite what I am saying and not believing corners are that valuable. I do agree that the floated delivery is a bit rubbish.

I also think in my experience the most effective strategy at corners is putting a bunch of tall players right on top of the goalkeeper and absolutely hammering the ball towards the mess of bodies.

I also think we aim too many at Maguire who despite being a wonderful player is fundamentally terrible at aiming headers with any degree of accuracy.

This is what I think.

Driven out swinging crosses to that central area at the edge of the 6 yard box. The cross has to have pace and spin for the attacking player to get good purchase and power on the header, out swingers have the spin going the right way on the ball to allow for a better connection.

In swinging crosses should go to the near side of the 6 yard box for the flick or glancing header across the goal, or the far side for an oncoming player to head back across goal.

Floated delivery is good if you're clipping it out to edge of the box for a volley, this team would probably come closer to scoring with a few of those. Put Pogba or Bruno on the edge clip the a few out there for the volley.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

Not a lot of goals are scored from corners so you're just winding yourself up thinking they should turn into anything.

 

[Suedesi]

Not one on target.

Considering the quality we have in our team and the height advantage surely this kind of stat needs to be looked at more seriously by the coaching staff, Some teams win games focusing on corners solely and we almost don’t take them serious enough and it’s became a bit of a joke how terrible we are at corners.

I genuinely can’t remember the last time we scored from a corner and I’d be surprised if it’s more than 5 goals in the last 6-7 years , is this simply a coaching issue that needs to be prioritised more ?

The premise of the thread is wrong. I distinctly recall McT and Maguire getting on the end of a few of those. Have a moan

 

[horsechoker]

Maybe this was why Phil Jones got a new contract.

Did this actually happen or is the Mandela effect?

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Well you only score from 3 of your corners apparently... so only 22 more to go until we get a goal!

 

[SAFMUTD]

Amazing how Maguire wins a lot of them but none seem to go on target.

If someone could get that stat I'm sure I'll show something ridiculously wasted xG wise.

 

[sullydnl]

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[Brightonian]

Wan-Bissaka is absolutely brilliant in defending these counter attacks after corners. You just can't dribble past him.

He's good at that bit, but the other part of it is that the ball gets headed clear and comes to you. If you take it down really crisply and get your head straight up, your can normally recycle it in an incisive way. If your touch is less sure, by the time you've got the ball down you've got onrushing oppos and you can either hit and hope a wide one out to a winger or turn and ping it all the way back to the keeper. Shaw is much better than AWB at that bit of it because his technique is superior.

 

[McTerminator]

Taking into account stats shared by other posters I think United fans have a slightly blinkered view of corners.

We just got used to a corner being the equivalent of a penalty for a few horrific years and now need to get used to them being a bit of a non-event.

 

[Superden]

it would help if our CBs didnt get confused and head them high into the stands when attacking them.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

it would help if our CBs didnt get confused and head them high into the stands when attacking them.

I feel like all our CBs attack corners in exactly the same manner - all you have to do is get your head on the ball and that's it. Don't need to bother with accuacy or direction or technique or anything... so long as your head makes contact, magic will do the rest.