A decade since Ronaldo left

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  1. Jun 11, 2019
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Best

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/george-best/rueckennummern/spieler/174986
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    Luke1995 Full Member

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    Has the club showed any serious desire to bring him back since ? Moyes said he wanted him in 2013 and Mourinho said signing him last year was never a possibility but that's all i've heard
  3. Jun 12, 2019
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    Ronaldo for 90m definitely wasn't cheap at that time. For comparison, you could have bought Robben, Modric and Agüero around that time who would have arguably compensated for his loss and who were all known world-class and proven players. 90m back then was more than Neymar money currently.
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    Snow Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down

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    The 7 thing is something that SAF basically came up with. There wasn't anything special about that Manchester United number before his time.
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    Red4Life_#7 Full Member

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    That's a disgrace and shows why we are in such problems, we need Mid more goals from the midfield and not just relying on Pogba or possibly Lingard.
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    Billy Blaggs Flacco of the Blaggs tribe

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    I remember Robson and some here remember Best. Bloody hell:nervous::lol:
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    Annual revenue of the richest football club by year:

    2009: Real Madrid - 365.8m euros
    2019: Real Madrid - 750.9m euros

    Adjusted for football inflation, Ronaldo’s transfer fee today is 193m euros.
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    We didn't sell Ronaldo on the cheap - we just didn't re-invest it at the right time because it was spent restructuring the PIK loans the Glazers had leveraged against the club

    We sell the worlds best player and spend the fee on interest payments and people defend these parasites
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    We didnt sell Ronaldo. We gave him to madrid for free if you look at what Ronaldo gave them.

    And We knew He was always going to be a virus there.
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    simonhch Horrible boss

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    Spot on. It was massive fee at the time. All paid up front too.
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    Regarding the number 7, it's not so much about the number, it's the players who are mostly shite.
    • Michael Owen - Wasn't even meant to be a first teamer, injury prone, old, captain obvious, got him for free ffs
    • Antonio Valencia - Okay, He was a speedy winger with good crosses but never the type who could change the game by his own efforts, He's a classic winger. If what people mean by "successful number 7"s are those players who are capable of pulling magic tricks out of their hats, Valencia would have never been one - it's simply not his style
    • Angel Di Maria - As the name implies, an angel who unfortunately got robbed, had a loyalty of a hen and fecked off to France to became a cock instead. Was never a strong character
    • Memphis Depay - Fast but can't run fast in PL apparently. Luke Shaw's best mate. His duo with Shaw was most anticipated but it turned out to be turtles duo. One had too much fat on his lower body and the other had too much muscles on his upper body. Was always a gamble when We signed him
    • Alexis Sanchez - Didn't come here when He's at the peak nor when He's on the rise as a player. Even so, He's the player I thought would do very well in number 7 shirt. But alas, the way that He never adapted properly with the team means that you could have given him any number and He'd still be as bad. I don't think it's so much about the shirt's pressure on this guy, He just cannot be arsed. So many mistakes He made due to bad communication with the rest of the players
    Now let's say if We sign one of Neymar, Mbappe, Hazard.. and give them the number 7. Will the number still be cursed then? Out of all 5 We signed to wear the number 7 after Ronaldo, only one seemed like a decent attempt of restoring the legacy and that was when We gave the number to Alexis.

    But people like these kind of myths so.
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    One of the few glaring mistakes of Sir Alex's career was not recruiting a suitable replacement for Ronaldo. Wish we would have signed anyone of Bale, Suarez or Robben in summers of 09 and 10.
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    Ronnie was a machine and worked hard to be the player he was and is, our recent No7 don’t have that ethic.

    When you look at that stat it makes you realise we were insanely lucky to have him at that time, but also that our recent 7’s were and currently are dreadful!
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    I felt we really should've went strong on Ribery.
    Ribery,Nani,Valencia,Park and Giggs as wide men would've been great strength in depth.
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    Can’t believe the marketing machine that is man united have let this go on so long.
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    Steve Coppell.

    Edit: Willie Morgan too.
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    Yeah, lots of players wore it, trying to find someone of 'worth' and don't think anyone's anywhere close.

    Morgan only had it a while? and I was never a fan of Coppell.... maybe it was because he was a Scouse student but never took to him (more of a Daly or Hill fan).
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    I loved watching Steve Coppell playing. Terrific crosser of a ball and had a wicked right foot. With him on the right, Hill on the left, and Pancho and Jimmy Greenhoff in the middle, we were pretty good. Morgan was a very good orthodox winger. Good close control and could beat a man. Always lived in Best's shadow until the Doc came in, then, after a couple of seasons, was elbowed out.
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    BeforeKeanetherewasRobson Full Member

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    Yeah, loved the 70s team (once Best, Charlton and a couple of others gone.... nothing against them but we needed to move on). Regardless of the result, always felt like they gave 100%?

    I'm probably biased on Coppell as I went to the Wales England game in 80 and I was autograph hunting after. Got Neal, Mariner and a few Wales ones... Coppell walked past us, in a mood. Pffft :)
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    We sold ronnie for 90mil and ten years later we pay our current nr7 25mil to warm the bench.
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    Is that the one Wales won 4-0? No wonder he had the hump.
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    BeforeKeanetherewasRobson Full Member

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    4-1. We were 1-0 down but played really well and could have scored 5 or 6. Just one of those days.
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    Sir Alex should have asked for Sneijder and Robben as part of that Ronaldo transfer deal. I would have taken 50m + these two players without a doubt.

    to think back that summer we used that Ronaldo money to buy Valencia (16m), Owen (free transfer) and Obertan (3m) :(:(:(
  24. Jun 13, 2019
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    But Valencia was fantastic for a couple of seasons and we still got to the champs league final and were second in the league.

    Imagine that seen as underpar now!
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    Valencia was fantastic for a few years but that's just it. We alongside Barca were the two best sides in Europe but the standard dropped massively from Ronaldo and Tevez to even a fantastic Valencia and 30 year old Owen.

    we probably would have won one more CL around 2010 to 2012 or 2013 had Sir Alex properly replaced Ronaldo.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Really thought Sanchez was going to get the #7 shirt back on track. Just the latest in a series of crushing disappointments in recent years. Feck this shit anyway.
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    Yeah since he left Fergie only won 2 premier league titles in 4 years. :rolleyes:

    Post Fergie - Ronaldo and Messi combined couldn't have helped us. We've been well and truly shite.
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    It really is criminal looking back at that fantastic team and the way the dynamic was totally killed by bringing Berbatov in, then losing Ronaldo.
    But I suppose Tevez was always a mercenary who would have taken a colossal fee. Wasn't it about 47m he moved to City for, at a time that was still a massive fee.
    And Ronaldo had started a long road of agitating for Madrid.
  29. Jun 14, 2019
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    It's the profile of player we have given it to since Ronaldo has left.
    Owen - past it
    Valencia - didn't want it
    Di Maria - did not want to be here
    Memphis - weak mentality
    Sanchez - mercenary

    Compare these personalities to Beckham, Cantona, Robson, Ronaldo, Best etc.
    There really is no comparison (I'm not talking of talent here)

    We just need to keep looking for the next one.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    Honestly think Fergie thought Obertan could be next Ronaldo. 6ft plus speedy wide forward capable of playing left or right.
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    kouroux 45k posts to finally achieve this tagline

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    There used to be a massive fanboi of Obertan back then on the caf. I could never make him understand that Obertan was shite and that he was never gonna make it at United. SAF should have listened to me
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    Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football

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    We should really have picked up Robben and someone else maybe rather then the money. It was a terrible injury we inflicted on ourselves - thanks to the owners.
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    Everybody's got some power of insight looking back now.. If any of Owen, Valencia, Di Maria, Depay or Sanchez worked out, this would be a moot discussion and we'll be talking of how shrewdly we replaced Ronaldo. People look back at deals the club could have milked more out of because what we are getting now is next to nothing.
  34. Jun 14, 2019
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    Robben and Sneijder from Real should have been acquired in the deal. It's just maddening when you think about it.

    Considering how good both were the following season(and how good Robben has been in general), we likely add another Premier League title at least(potentially 2) and perhaps another CL title.

    So frustrating.
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    red_de_pologne New Member

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    In the meantime Ronaldo scored what, 400? :lol:
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    Sassy Colin Death or the gladioli!

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    Bollocks!

    His sale smashed the previous record and it took years for that record to be broken

    You are basing this on the current market.
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    For the umpteenth time, Robben and Sneijder both said at the time they would not be involved in any deal to take Ronaldo to Real Madrid.

    So what were United supposed to do? And if we'd tried to sign them after the event Royal Madrid would have screwed us for the £80m they'd just paid for Ronaldo, and then some for the two, or most of it for just one.

    Plus Robben had turned us down previously when he moved to Chelsea which for some fans is a reason never to go back in for him so i'm not sure he'd have been welcomed with open arms anyway.
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    Pughnichi New Member

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    Sharpe wore 5 and Kanchelskis 14...when squad numbers were introduced
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    digitalnirvana Baksuz

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    Fixed
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    Give the no.2 goalie the no.7 shirt. sorted