Agree. And I have to add that I have never ever seen anyone perform so many clean tackles. He seldom fouls. Amazing precision. I was thinking about who is the best FB from a defensive POV but gave up. All the best FB ay in the top teams like Barca, Real, Juve, Liverpool... etc. They don't really do much defending compared to for example a FB at United, so it is hard to say how good they are at that.