Can blame the Europa League I suppose, could have lost anyway though
Accumulated fatigue is a real thing.
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The year is 2025.
Manchester United still can’t play any decent football and still have fitness issues in the squad.
“Its cos we played those two Europa League games in August 2020 and didn’t have a proper season”...
Manchester United still can’t play any decent football and still have fitness issues in the squad.
“Its cos we played those two Europa League games in August 2020 and didn’t have a proper season”...
Thats mental. Why is there another round of the carabao cup again so soonSpurs played today, then they play on Tuesday, then Thursday and then against us on Sunday
I thought the thread title was Accumulated Failure. Would still agree though.
wolves got decimated by west ham.
Our brighton victory in hindsight was actually very very good. Against a team thats played excellent football we managed to steal 3 points.
Our brighton victory in hindsight was actually very very good. Against a team thats played excellent football we managed to steal 3 points.
Agreed.
Teams who don't play European matches would have huge advantage. Everton may finish pretty high this season I think.
Uhm last time we did that against Palace, it didn't end well you know ...
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Not gonna happened. TV money is too massive to reduced the amount of matches
This went well
Wish we had a "prediction" machine where you can stick in ALL variables that relate to football and get out some results.
Fortunately there are some of us who have our very own "prediction" machine, its called judging something without using ego and generally is dominated by emotion.
So keeping emotions in check is imperative as we can see the results of not keeping it in check just reading through many of the posts found on redcafe
I say to myself, "there cant be that many people this thi........." I'd better leave it there
Those people who have the ability to negate this very difficult thing and understand the variables that would go into a "prediction" machine have already understood how our season would start and are just hoping that we can get the points on the board in the first 5-6 games as to keep our confidence high as this is so important.
So when we do get match fit, our players with have the mental appitude combined with their physical attributes to kick on.
Its so important as people are not "robots" and in having such a young team we really dont want to be fighting negative internal emotions such as not "believing" in ourselves which can more easily manifest itself in younger less experienced players.
The OP has it spot on, its not rocket science....
This. There might be some fatigue element but we are simply in preseason mode, along with a few other team. Things will get back to normal in 2 or 3 more games.
This is something fans that don't play football won't understand. You can work hard on fitness and everything, coming into a game is different.
The intensity is different, especially if you are playing a team that is ahead in its fitness. What people dont realise is that teams had the whole of august off. We had 2 weeks off before coming back.
We didn't have a pre season. Pogba, AWB have had no pre season.
We saw City, Wolves, Bayern all struggle this weekend because the opponents are sharper.
This is just another excuse,
Tired and fatigue is real but let's not forget we're competing against other 19 teams with pretty much the same condition, it's not as if we're the only one that isn't awarded some break. If smaller team can do it, why can't we? We played 1 extra match in EL? Hardly an excuse for our total meltdown on the first game of the season after 2 weeks vacation.
Squad depth : Teams like Everton / Southampton, / Spurs / Arsenal are probably on the same boat as us, they don't have depth to allow for rotation without sacrificing quality. If they can do it, why can't we? Switch the tactics to reduce running, change formation to a more compact so that you mark less, etc. Many things managers can do to mitigate fatique. If Ole can't manage it this early on the season then God help us when the fixtures getting busy.
It's one thing if the player's are gassed in 80 minutes, but they have been clueless since the first minute. You can be out of breath at 80th minute, but that doesn't make you unable to string a pass and play with a system in the first half. That's a totally different deficiencies.
Match sharpness is another thing, but also I find it weird that we're so lacking in it, our last game is hardly a few weeks before our first game. And again, other teams doesn't have this problem.
We can't beat CP not because of tiredness, but because we don't know how to break them.
Tired and fatigue is real but let's not forget we're competing against other 19 teams with pretty much the same condition, it's not as if we're the only one that isn't awarded some break. If smaller team can do it, why can't we? We played 1 extra match in EL? Hardly an excuse for our total meltdown on the first game of the season after 2 weeks vacation.
Squad depth : Teams like Everton / Southampton, / Spurs / Arsenal are probably on the same boat as us, they don't have depth to allow for rotation without sacrificing quality. If they can do it, why can't we? Switch the tactics to reduce running, change formation to a more compact so that you mark less, etc. Many things managers can do to mitigate fatique. If Ole can't manage it this early on the season then God help us when the fixtures getting busy.
It's one thing if the player's are gassed in 80 minutes, but they have been clueless since the first minute. You can be out of breath at 80th minute, but that doesn't make you unable to string a pass and play with a system in the first half. That's a totally different deficiencies.
Match sharpness is another thing, but also I find it weird that we're so lacking in it, our last game is hardly a few weeks before our first game. And again, other teams doesn't have this problem.
We can't beat CP not because of tiredness, but because we don't know how to break them.
Squad depth matters in the later part of the campaign where your bench will make the difference, not in the first game of the season.
The first 5 games of the season is supposed to be level playing field for everyone, everyone starts fresh (bar injuries), and the first 5 games aren't disrupted with European games, even if there's a LC it'll be us an everyone else.
Really hope this would be the case. But I'd doubt it.
Usually a season ends by mid May and players have their holidays till early July. So 6-8 weeks off. By then most players should recharge their energy, remove the accumulated fatigue of the last season but they would also have low fitness, both physical and match fitness. The pre season is where they would get both back and build the stamina base for the comming season.
This year imo we actually just contiue the last season, with a small break. And the last season actually started from March, with no pre season. Worse thing is the schedule was super congested especially for teams who played in multiple fronts and reached late stages.
So, imo the accumulated fatigue hasn't been removed at all for teams like us.
It's been a really weird one last season. And the players still and will suffer from that I think.
I did want the Europa League but by the time it started again, we hadn't been playing well for a while... we had looked poor in our last 4-5 league games.
True. That was down to fatigue - both physical and mental I would think. We had a little break to recover physically, but not long really. But mentally it must have been a gruelling season, knowing as well that you'll get no time to recover for the next season, and the season after that come to think of it.