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Adrien Rabiot | signs 1 year deal at Juventus. See you all next year
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Not a bad shout... We should go full shit-bags XI, I reckon we could get that bloke from Slavia Prague who racially abused Glen Kamara for a decent fee.
At least we can bring Greenwood back into the fold that way.
Rather we went for Andy Ruiz Jnr
With the result yesterday and then the strong links to Arnautovic and now Rabiot I can safely say all the wind has been taken out of my sails when looking towards the new season. Rabiot will probably be somewhat useful but it just feels so uninspiring, probably more so because of the other negativity surrounding the club at the moment.
Outside of last season, Rabiot is better than both Fred and McTominay in every ways possible. Rabiot's poor season, is the equivalent of a strandard season for our midfielders. Now one can wonder if he is going to go back to his previous form or if last season is the new normal. Either way, he is a better defender.
Not sure about the meltdown on this thread. I could understand if he was an alternative to De Jong but it is clear that he is not. We need bodies in midfield and competition for places so that Fred and McT don’t get complacent. Since the fee is low, the risk is also low on this one.
My sense is that this is a temporary move till we find someone better on our terms. Right now clubs can see our desperation and will take us to the cleaners. I would rather have him than nobody else.
My sense is that this is a temporary move till we find someone better on our terms. Right now clubs can see our desperation and will take us to the cleaners. I would rather have him than nobody else.
Fair point, but I think we need to be careful how perceive fans observations at times... Rabiot was a lovely player at PSG. Look at De Ligt, Dybala, Morata at Juve... all have underwhelmed, and they are not poor players, not at all.
Sometimes, as we have found out in the past, some transfers do not bring the best out players. It happens.
Lidl by Lidl the club goes spiralling down the footballing plughole.
I need to log off and head wobble back to positive energy. It's first day back after two weeks off on holidays, and hour by hour United are sending me over the proverbial...
I need to log off and head wobble back to positive energy. It's first day back after two weeks off on holidays, and hour by hour United are sending me over the proverbial...
No links to this guy whatsoever and now we’ve agreed a deal. Clearly shows a lack of planing and a panic buy just to get someone in the middle. We’re going downhill again! New manager same old crap! Absolute shambles of a club. We was all optimistic at the start but after the loss and now this….
The other thing about him is that his wages are going to be high so will be virtually unsaleable after he flops in the next few months.
Stats are just stats, mate. A forward pass that is close to horizontal is also "progressive".
I think he would struggle in the PL tbh. One of those players that looks like he would not do well under the press and with his space taken from him.
We need actual starters, players who will elevate this team, not stop gaps that we will have to replace a year down the line and who aren't that much of an upgarde over what we have already.
Feels like the phase in which Liverpool were signing average midfielders like Lucas Leiva, and wingers like Downing and Babel
I have to respect the calmness of some posters here, especially the ones that are convinced he is not an alternative to De Jong - I have lost all faith at this point
Right, so the player, i'm not against, I hope he does a job in a position where we're desperate for reinforcements.
But what I can't deal with is the clear lack of planning. Clearly a panic buy after yesterday.
All the faces at the top have changed but the ways of the club haven't. This all comes down to the Glazers. What is happening behind the scenes to force different people to act in the same ways? So frustrating that after what seemed a positive appointment of EtH and a breath of fresh air (I still think he's the right man, don't get me wrong), we're brought back to ground with such a thump at yesterdays result and today's news.
But what I can't deal with is the clear lack of planning. Clearly a panic buy after yesterday.
All the faces at the top have changed but the ways of the club haven't. This all comes down to the Glazers. What is happening behind the scenes to force different people to act in the same ways? So frustrating that after what seemed a positive appointment of EtH and a breath of fresh air (I still think he's the right man, don't get me wrong), we're brought back to ground with such a thump at yesterdays result and today's news.
I have no idea. In general none of Juventus midfielders have been any good, all of them have been underwhelming.
Well this is true. God knows what happened there. Absolutely fleeced.
Glazers don't want to spend much money they don't care its a cash cow for them.
We should be breaking the bank and solving the midfield with a cdm and FDJ now, even get an old RB and fix that issue.
Get the right men in the right positions the midfield and rb would solve 80% of issues
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If this an addition to FDJ, why wasn't it done weeks ago? Pure bs, this is a panic buy. Pogba 2.0 attitude.
Surely we'd sell one of our midfielders?
To be fair to him, he’s played 30+ games a season for Juve including champions league and played relatively regularly for one of the best international teams in the world.
Holding a stat sheet of him vs McTominay does not tell the full picture - he’s levels above him in just general ability.
As a second/third midfield addition? Good business. As first choice panic? Nah
Holding a stat sheet of him vs McTominay does not tell the full picture - he’s levels above him in just general ability.
As a second/third midfield addition? Good business. As first choice panic? Nah
Exactly the point I made earlier. We’ve been shafted. These morons can’t sell players due to high wages but then don’t think the same logic applies to clubs we’re buying from? Now he’s our problem that we defo won’t be able to shift. Unbelievable.
We are ran by imbeciles who are so far out of their depths they'd be right at home at a Fyre Fest boardroom meeting
The Anti-Glazer protests are going to ramp right up in the coming weeks
Our owners have done more to support Juventus since they arrived than they have us.
so were all hoping that his mommy says no.
I'm finding it difficult to understand why people are moaning about this buy. Doubt many have actually seen him play in recent years (something of which I'm also guilty), but from what I remember during his time at PSG, he at least has a footballing brain, something which McTominay lacks.
He's not a marquee signing, he's not a top 5 in the world, but if we're actually signing him, let's at least give him a few games before disregarding his ability.
He's not a marquee signing, he's not a top 5 in the world, but if we're actually signing him, let's at least give him a few games before disregarding his ability.
Im honestly lost for words.
We are paying for players other teams want to get rid off.
We are paying for players other teams want to get rid off.
Everyone remember that story/urban myth about Peter Ridsdale negotiating Seth Johnson's contract?
I think something similar might have happened here... like, for real.
I know Rabiot since his debut, his evolution has been monitored cautiously.
He is very calm on the pitch (sometimes too much) and he manages pressure very well. His technique is beyond the rest, mixed with power due to his physicality. he can avoid tricky situations with ease, and he can do fast runs with the ball, good passes (not long range) and he is not bad when it comes to shoot. BUT, that palette is rarely visible full time during a game, and his seasons always been inconsistant. He likes to shine in big games, when he raises his level he can be among the top 3 players on the pitch (UCL, FRANCE). He his rarely injuried.
In the Man.U context he will need confidence from his manager, he is not the type of guy taking shit to be at his top. His weak point is his mental, sometimes we wonder if he really likes football (he declared that he almost never watch a game on TV so his passion must be elsewhere). I don't see him transcend himself just because he departs from Turin but maybe he can bring something more that what you already have in the midfield. In terms of power he can manage the PL that's for sure. Let's see if he regains some motivation here.
He is very calm on the pitch (sometimes too much) and he manages pressure very well. His technique is beyond the rest, mixed with power due to his physicality. he can avoid tricky situations with ease, and he can do fast runs with the ball, good passes (not long range) and he is not bad when it comes to shoot. BUT, that palette is rarely visible full time during a game, and his seasons always been inconsistant. He likes to shine in big games, when he raises his level he can be among the top 3 players on the pitch (UCL, FRANCE). He his rarely injuried.
In the Man.U context he will need confidence from his manager, he is not the type of guy taking shit to be at his top. His weak point is his mental, sometimes we wonder if he really likes football (he declared that he almost never watch a game on TV so his passion must be elsewhere). I don't see him transcend himself just because he departs from Turin but maybe he can bring something more that what you already have in the midfield. In terms of power he can manage the PL that's for sure. Let's see if he regains some motivation here.
I have to believe the fee will be different to what is being quoted. The wages are not really the issue. That’s Juventus being idiots.
He wasn't any worse last year than he was in the previous years. I'd actually argue that the second part of last season was the best we saw at Juve. We changed from possession based, high-pressing coaches (Pirlo, Sarri) to a coach who prefers more direct counter-attacking style with a deeper defensive line so obviously his on the ball contributions like the amount of passes will go down. He also often played out of position as LM (where he was pretty bad) during the first half of last season which only further decreased the the amount of touches he had on the ball.
Mood after this entire morning round of United transfer news:
We are getting rinsed. 18m for this guy whose contract is expiring in a year. I'm not one to usually complain about transfer fees but seriously?
I said the same months ago, this guy is never worth anything more than his wages.
Don't see anyone else gamble like United in the transfer market, it's beyond stupid.
This transfer will be an absolute disaster. Breathtaking incompetence by this club.
I want to get a baseball bat and break things.
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