Yeah watching the matches on Tuesday it was noticeable how good the four GKs(Neuer, Allison,Lopez, Ter Stegen) who played that day were with their feet.
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Yeah, sometimes players are not in a good day. Its not weird?
What a fecking performance.
A lesser keeper and we'd be going out.
A lesser keeper and we'd be going out.
Dont think he had that much to do, standard saves, apart from the Alba chance. Thought that was a great save right before HT.
Klopp's master piece buy along with Van Dijk
He's your Schmeichel.
Neuer had a very serious injury, but managed to recover. He won't be back to his old self, because recovering from an injury that requires a nine month period must have been quite a battle.
Eh? He didn't do anything remarkable at all. If he let any of Barca's tame attempts in he'd be doing a Karius
He didn't do much but he inspires confidence. The defenders know he'll help position them and under pressure he's effectively a 5th man in the back line.
Sad to think he's better on the ball than some of our outfield players.
Sad to think he's better on the ball than some of our outfield players.
Agree. He transmits alot of confidence.
Made more difficult saves against Napoli. Last night was solid but not a spectacular performance.
Still not seen anything that warrants all the praise he gets. Most of it seems to stem from clean sheets which is usually more to do with others than it is the keeper.
He certainly doesn't inspire confidence with his monthly almost giving the ball away to the attacker trope he does.
He certainly doesn't inspire confidence with his monthly almost giving the ball away to the attacker trope he does.
Mother of God, calm yourself. It was a decent performance, didn't do anything great.
He saved 2 or 3 chances where they had clear shots free on goal.
The fact that he is so quick to close down attackers makes it look less impressive than it is. De Gea would have been in full stretch with lightning speed standing on his line in order to save those.
The fact that he is so quick to close down attackers makes it look less impressive than it is. De Gea would have been in full stretch with lightning speed standing on his line in order to save those.
Shots were crap/average though. Any good keeper should have dealt with them.
Another super signing by Klopp. After a slightly shaky start to the season, he's established himself as one of the best keepers in the league. He was really good against barca 2nd leg, i'd argue he kept liverpool in the game and was really solid last night too. Him and VVD have made a huge difference to liverpools defense.
In my opinion and on his day, David De Gea is a better keeper. Not on current form, but on his day De Gea definitely gets my vote. That said, Allison is a good keeper. I think the hype around him is slightly over-blown to be honest because your previous number one Karius, who was utterly inept. Almost any upgrade on such an incompetent footballer is better. The great talent of Allison is not just his shot-stopping and ability to play the ball out from the back, it is ultimately the confidence that he gives the back four. You can tell that the players trust him, which was missing last season with the calamitous Karius.
Well, I did tell you @B20 he was pretty good back in July.
Thought his passing yesterday was a bit off though. But what a first Season this lad has had. Remember when Mignolet was dropping howlers every other week? Can we have those times back please.
Thought his passing yesterday was a bit off though. But what a first Season this lad has had. Remember when Mignolet was dropping howlers every other week? Can we have those times back please.
At best De Gea is a better shot stopper on his day but even that is debatable, Alison has total control over his box and plays out from the back unlike De Gea who can't do either.
Alison is a much better overall goalkeeper than De Gea even when De Gea is on his game
Love him. Best keeper in the league and as with so many other games this season, we aren't keeping a clean sheet yesterday with Mingo or Karius in goal
De Gea for me is the best shot stopper in the world, he is like a frigging cat. Allison is better suited to our team though because his distribution is better than De Gea. You are correct though, the biggest impact Allison has had is confidence.
Best keeper in the business right now for me. Stopped a couple of clear goal chances yesterday that would've completely changed the trajectory of the final.
I love him but that’s just not true. He didn’t make one extraordinary save or whatever, just what you expect from a good (great) goalkeeper and nothing more.
what i like is despite his shaky start it didnt rattle him at all. that speaks volumes about his mentality.
he just came out in the press along with klopp and said im not gonna do that stuff anymore (playing the ball like a kaka by the goal).
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I don't recall saying the saves were extraordinary, just that they were pivotal and many other keepers may not have done as well to keep them out.
Anyone would have been an improvement on loris karius
But lets not take the credit away, he has been consistent and one of the top performers for Liverpool this season
But lets not take the credit away, he has been consistent and one of the top performers for Liverpool this season
Then they’re pretty average keepers. None of the saves he had to make yesterday were hard.
The late FK is one that was very tricky. Could Have easily been spilled or else the keeper could've had a bad punch.
Although Alisson didn't face overly difficult shots, he had a lot to do in a high pressure situation and looked calm all the time. Good to have someone like that and certainly not a given with how many GK feckups we've seen in recent high profile games.
I think you overestimate how good average keepers are.
Overrated due to Liverpool's good defence. Don't think I've seen him do a single impressive thing yet. I've seen him fanny about with the ball at his feet more than I've seen good saves.
The opposite of what Dave has been for us, where we saw our defence overrated because of how good he is.
The opposite of what Dave has been for us, where we saw our defence overrated because of how good he is.
De Gea need a good team mate and good tactics to distribute the ball right from the back.
Did you not watch the United V Liverpool game at Old Trafford this season? He made arguably his most impressive piece of goalkeeping this season in that game.
I think what you're saying is some way right though. Its a combination of the defence and Alisson that should get the plaudits as without one another they would be significantly weaker.
I'm the final Alisson played very well as some of the shots he faced had the potential to be spilled. His positioning etc was all top class but no out of this world saves. Just steady assuredness.
Yeah he’s definitely added some reassurance. I don’t remember that save, though I’m sure he has made a few standout ones.
His save against Napoli was excellent, and without it Liverpool would've been dumped from Champions League.
Most of the saves he made were pretty easy, pretty straight at him although he did position well.
For me it's more the calmness he brings to Liverpool back 4. Never seems shaky on claiming crosses and that obviously spreads confidence to rest of the team considering they've had Mingolet or Karius behind them for last 5 years.
As much as I like Pickford there is a gulf in mentality between him and Allisson. Alisson actually is only a year older but looks like ten years older on the pitch when Pickford has his blood rushing to the head games, he needs to calm down a bit.
For me it's more the calmness he brings to Liverpool back 4. Never seems shaky on claiming crosses and that obviously spreads confidence to rest of the team considering they've had Mingolet or Karius behind them for last 5 years.
As much as I like Pickford there is a gulf in mentality between him and Allisson. Alisson actually is only a year older but looks like ten years older on the pitch when Pickford has his blood rushing to the head games, he needs to calm down a bit.
Alisson has exceptional speed, anticipation and positioning. He is always in the right place to turn difficult saves into easier ones, which is why he has the highest save percentage around. The polar opposite of shay given-style saves for the cameras.
Won them the champions league, kept them in it, against Napoli, kept them in it against Barca, and kept them in it in Final.
Motm in Final for pool. Big Money but has repaid it, fair play, but He's got a Quality CB in front, and 2 class full backs, that makes it easier.
See how 2nd season compares.
Motm in Final for pool. Big Money but has repaid it, fair play, but He's got a Quality CB in front, and 2 class full backs, that makes it easier.
See how 2nd season compares.
He put in a VDS style performance. Solid, nothing spectacular but spread assurance across the defence when the rest of the side was panicking. That is worth it’s weight in gold.
Compare that to DDG under pressure in World Cup and you can see why Alisson is rated so highly even though technically he’s nothing that special in the goalkeeping department outside of distribution.
Compare that to DDG under pressure in World Cup and you can see why Alisson is rated so highly even though technically he’s nothing that special in the goalkeeping department outside of distribution.