I hear you. The difference is Ralfs words are about off the pitch. It’s one thing coming in and banning ketchup or laying down the ground rules to the players. And I’m sure Ralf is doing that. But what he’s said has a much bigger impact to the club as whole in terms of player power, spending and investment. This is bigger than just a few rousing words and laying down the law cause you’re the new guy, like every new guy does.
All aboard the Rangnick Train
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He needs to move these surplus players on swiftly, can’t afford them sticking around and potentially causing rifts in the dressing.
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I'd love it. I had been waiting for him to say that and much more - some of the players we have were taking advantage of Ole being too nice. Now that things have changed some are already looking to leave or look disinterested because Ole is no longer here and they actually have to work. After all, United was never a club that give in to players demands too easily but recently it has become the norm.
2 keepers on the bench?
I think I'll get off the train!
I think I'll get off the train!
He's an interim manager and just that. Nothing special to what he's done. Lets not get ahead of ourselves. He's not exactly come in and set the world alight. This has been between a sub-par to alright performance so far in his Manchester United career.
We won at the death lets not overhype this "interim" manager.
We're seeing steady improvements in this side over the last 3 or 4 games. Whatever they're doing on the training ground is working. We're not seeing as many unforced errors as we did under Ole - especially from the backline who have been guilty of that all season. We look more energetic, more willing to take risks, the backline is solid as a rock, McFred is functioning well - albeit stifling our attacking output somewhat - and DDG is back to his best.
Things are looking up for the first time in a long time.
Things are looking up for the first time in a long time.
I don’t even care where we finish. Agree with you OP, I just want him to restore manager power as and standards which is what he is doing. Performances, player development and results will naturally follow from that.
Things are gradually clicking together, he survived the heat with his calm and honest personality.
It is not easy to fix a team that were not well coached for the past three years.
It is not easy to fix a team that were not well coached for the past three years.
It's clear that the players had been spoiled and coddled over the past 3 years. They're going to whine that they have to *gasp* train until 5PM or *gasp* watch video analysis of themselves or *gasps* not be allowed to vacation in Dubai whenever they get a knock. The ones who won't adopt and hold themselves to some standards should be shown their way out the door.
I think this is the point. Players will either adapt to the new regime or rebel. Those that rebel can leave. Those that adapt will prosper.
Manager power sounds good but it can work two ways.
If I were an Everton fan I would rather Digne and James were still in the squad, for example.
If I were an Everton fan I would rather Digne and James were still in the squad, for example.
After the Villa half, Brentford half and West Ham game I’m on the train.
Slowly moving in the right direction.
Hopefully continues to do so now he's actually got time in between games rather than games every few days and covid scenarios to deal with.
Hopefully continues to do so now he's actually got time in between games rather than games every few days and covid scenarios to deal with.
I have to say the first few weeks I was worried, but the last 3/4 games have definitely given me hope we can turn the corner.
We look a lot more organised, build up play is 10x better. We actually look like a team with a plan right now.
The only issue is the attackers are all in poor form right now. We desperately need one of them to carry us.
We look a lot more organised, build up play is 10x better. We actually look like a team with a plan right now.
The only issue is the attackers are all in poor form right now. We desperately need one of them to carry us.
Think it's going to take a big coaching job to work on our spacing in the final third, not sure Ralf can do it midseason. It's not lack of form as much as it is lack of being in the right spots/moving to the right spots to make the attackers job easier. They just kind of wing it currently.
Yes! Starting to see improvements and our results are consistent (bar the wolves game) Potential for a good end to this seasons and reasons to be positive, so all aboard! (Even if it’s only cos there are no transfer muppet trains scheduled this month)
Give him the keys so he can prepare for the next manager (ETH) so that he can move upstairs.
Knee-jerk positivity abound this evening I see. We'll be back to our true selves soon enough.
He is pushing us in the right direction. If Pochettino or ten hag are unavailable or get lured by other top club, I will feel comfortable with Ralf staying another season as manager.
Was so happy to see him chuck Cavani on for Fred. All 3 of his substitutes, and Ronaldo, then created the winning goal. Ole, Mourinho or LvG would have undoubtedly just not made changes or at the most, like for like ones. We’d probably have ended up being sucker punched, ultimately losing the game.
Ralf’s in game management was poor against Villa, but boy did he learn quick, which I suppose should have been a given considering his status as a footballing professor back home. Shored up the Brentford game, and then won the West Ham game by adopting Fergie’s old ‘chuck all the attackers on’ tactic. Peter Schmeichel calls it risk mode in his book, where we just throw the kitchen sink at teams with an invincible aura. This is the closest definition to the United way, if there is something like that. I love that all this came about from him admitting his mistake in his press conference as well. Ole would have admitted it and simply done the same thing, while Mourinho would have blamed Shaw or Pogba or something like that. No ego despite his status.
He’s doing a good, 7/10 job so far. No matter how this season ends though, I know we’re in good hands with him as a consultant for the next two seasons.
Ralf’s in game management was poor against Villa, but boy did he learn quick, which I suppose should have been a given considering his status as a footballing professor back home. Shored up the Brentford game, and then won the West Ham game by adopting Fergie’s old ‘chuck all the attackers on’ tactic. Peter Schmeichel calls it risk mode in his book, where we just throw the kitchen sink at teams with an invincible aura. This is the closest definition to the United way, if there is something like that. I love that all this came about from him admitting his mistake in his press conference as well. Ole would have admitted it and simply done the same thing, while Mourinho would have blamed Shaw or Pogba or something like that. No ego despite his status.
He’s doing a good, 7/10 job so far. No matter how this season ends though, I know we’re in good hands with him as a consultant for the next two seasons.
I've been there since day 1.
Small steps but it's forward.
The best thing about Ralf is, good, bad or ugly, he will tell you why it happened in the presser.
Managers get praise (and rightly so) when things go well and the pitchforks come out when we’ll-intentioned plans backfire. Either way, Rangnick has a method to his style and it’s slowly starting to show.
To me the biggest plus point today apart from the 3 points was our clean sheet. It’s almost as good as another goal in itself.
To me the biggest plus point today apart from the 3 points was our clean sheet. It’s almost as good as another goal in itself.
We are going to win the league this year easy easy
Done more in 10 matches than Ole did in 3 years. I'm aboard.
I agree unfortunately
He had me at Guten Tag...
Wouldn't it be great, if the West Ham game is the indicator of the beginning to show our true selves?
I like the fact he brought on Martial. Shows he is not a weak guy. I am glad Martial responded too.
Same as the knee jerk negativity that happens every chance it gets
Well said, RT, long may it continue.
Quite agree.
His job this season was never going to be simple.
But what I am seeing is beginning to look impressive.
The biggest improvements are the increasing levels of work rate and organisation.
They also look to be more together as a unit.
All of the players seem to be more aware of their roles.
And I don't share the concerns about tightening the defence. It was absolutely necessary and gives you something to build from.
It isnt knee-jerk. The games against Villa and Brentford also had promising signs so there is a trend.
Genuinely think we’re getting better game by game but the squad composition means we will still struggle at times. I like his pressers and to be perfectly honest when he was announced I thought the real meat of his time here will be in the two year consultancy. He was brought in to steady the ship and he’s slowly doing that and we’re slowly getting better performances.
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I hope we give him enough say in his consultant stint. His job, managerial or otherwise, is going to take a while to be completely implemented. There will be highs like last night and lows like Wolves. But now we’ve got him on board, I hope we give him the tools to make changes to the squad and get in a manager who is compatible with his vision of playing style and squad management. Only if we get these things aligned, will we have a long term progression rather than the spurts of minor progress followed by crushing lows.
I'm not hopeful. The club has clearly decided against signing his targets in January - which tells you he's not looking likely to have much of an impact on recruitment.
had a chance to move on Martial this window and maybe bring in a defensive midfielder who we badly need. Now it seems all things are rosy again. Do anyone think there is someone over ruling Rangnick already.