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Apparently De Gea tweeted this to Muniain that night, can't confirm if true or not so take it with a pinch of salt.


De Gea to Muniain: You are having a good time bro!
Munian to De Gea: So are youuu
 

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The "they kept in touch afterwards because they were trying to keep her quiet" suggests otherwise.
Do the "they" mention DDG? It could just be the players who actually did that activity.
 

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Google Translated version of the story: https://translate.google.ie/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.eldiario.es/politica/Gea-Muniain-pornografo-Torbe_0_524948592.html&edit-text=&act=url

A protected witness in the investigation against businessman Torbe porn -Ignacio Fernandez Allende, jailed since last April on charges of human trafficking for sexual exploitation, sexual assault, child pornography, related to prostitution, extortion and against public health, and money laundering and against the Hacienda publication has been implicated in the case to two international players: David de Gea, Manchester United goalkeeper today and Iker Muniain, Athletic Bilbao striker.

The story of this woman is incorporated into the summary of the Universal operation that is instructed in the court number 29 of Madrid and pointing to the owner of websites with sexual content as the head of a prostitution ring that abused Spanish and foreign women, some of them minors.

The testimony before the police a woman captured by the network who reports researchers call TP3 is key because of his complaint broke all the research, which currently has 10 suspects, including the alleged brains of the network , Torbe and his Ukrainian partner Borys Malynovskyi.

The Central Brigade Combat Trafficking in Human Beings of the National Police gives the general account of this woman and two other witnesses protected a "high degree of credibility" and rule "interests that may exist to discredit the accused persons for economic reasons or personal ".

The double statement that the victim made to the agents detailing all sorts of harassment by the network and includes an episode of alleged abuse in which according incorporated into cars account involved Iker Muniain in 2012 at a downtown hotel five star Madrid. The revelations of this victim of the plot point that was Torbe who led protected under the promise that they would collect enough money to loft suite hotel where he met another woman, Iker Muniain witness and another player but the witness is not identify known at that time.

"After leaving TP3 in the room with the other girl, Torbe told him that he had to be with the players, having to access everything they wanted and they would receive enough money. Given the refusal of TP3, Torbe caught heavily on arm, leaving a replica, having to agree to do everything they wanted, having sex with her new girl , "writes the minutes of your first statement, which took place on June 3, 2015 in Murcia.

The police report that summarizes your testimony adds more details of that meeting: "Both the new girl as TP3 were sexually abused by boys, as if they refused they were physically assaulted by both, and after finishing with sexual desires both players, [these] made threats to what happened in that hotel room never came to light. neither TP3 or [other] girl who was in that room charge anything for all physical, sexual assaults ... received , taking all Torbe profits. "

At a later hearing, which took place on May 6 in police Brigade Combat Trafficking in Human Beings in Madrid, the protected witness gave names to the players who participated in the episode of the hotel. He said that the protagonists of the alleged assault in the room of Madrid property (which until then had not identified) were Iker Muniain and a second player also of the U 21, and that the meeting had agreed David De Gea with Torbe own.

According to the woman, entering the hotel suite, she made it clear to Torbe, with the players of witnesses, who did not want to participate in that party. And he stressed that international players which at that time were partners in the Spanish Under-21- had asked that no recording is not to do so would not affect their careers.

Before his second statement to the police, the protected witness tried through whatsapp that De Gea would identify the other player who had been with Muniain in a hotel room in Madrid and also itemizing how much had taken Torbe by appointment, since the money had never reached his pocket. In those phone messages, incorporated into the cause, the woman question about the name of the second player who accessed the room and remember that was injured. De Gea says he was a player of Athletic Bilbao but avoid giving further details. Nevertheless, she is identifying the woman just last May 6 to police a player from a different computer that does not match those tracks.

The exchange of messages between women and De Gea continues and the goalkeeper again interested in the services of this woman and asked if she would be cited with five Manchester United players, including himself. There is no evidence that this meeting took place. The tone of the conversation suggests that the witness was trying to gather new evidence to add to its complaint, since it is not sure of the name of the player who accompanied Muniain in the room. The only two players who are whatsapp chat by De Gea and Muniain himself, according to the documents incorporated in the summary.

In one of the conversations bugged by police and transcribed in the case, an unidentified person TORBE ask for their contact with players from Athletic Bilbao. And the employer responds that two of them had been at a party with two girls.

Another minor age protected witness
Manchester goalkeeper again be cited elsewhere in the Universal summary. There is a second protected witness, a minor, called TP2, whose story is incorporated into the causes Nov. 4, 2015, when reporting sexual abuse carried out by Torbe. Young, 17, was spotted by an alleged collaborator porn entrepreneur in a pub, who offered him earn "big money" and sent to a web page that the girl came to send nude photos. There began extortion under threat of making public those intimate images in his circle of acquaintances.

The lowest reported that he was drugged and raped at least twice by Torbe, one of them after being picked up by a chauffeur at his school. After one of these episodes of abuse, the employer made porn videos you record that same day, which he would be sent to De Gea and other players of Athletic Bilbao, to make appointments with them. Analyses were performed later to see if she was drugged showed that at the time of the facts, she had consumed cannabis and MDMA. Responding to questions from the officers, the woman claimed that only had occasionally tried cannabis but was not a regular consumer.

So far, neither the police nor the judge cited the players mentioned by the protected in its latest statement on May 6 witness. Those who do have recently appeared in court are several victims and the next 16 will do all investigated.

The cause in five volumes detailing the hardships passing young captured by the network, some arrivals from Ukraine, where porn record is prohibited, and that Torbe and his Ukrainian partner used to shoot extreme scenes. In most cases women were duped. Some of the victims spent the night in an office Torbe where you remained in detention. Some of the recordings had to be interrupted, as recognized by the ringleaders of the network eavesdropping, because women broke to mourn and sometimes vomiting.

In police reports have been added to the list since the birth of the case, the researchers emphasize the maneuvers of businessman and porn actor, looking for young people in desperate economic situations (one gets to borrow 600 euros to Torbe not to evict her mother) and then the extorts for prostitution under the threat of spreading their images among acquaintances and family.

Eldiario.es writing has tried to contact De Gea, who has avoided making statements through an official spokesman. Iker Muniain agent, Txus Medina, said to this newspaper: "We do not know this topic absolutely no police or court has contacted us to gather any information."
 

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So he wasn't involved in the rape/sexual assault, but arranged for the meetings? Is it reasonable to think that he thought he was just helping some friends have their jollies and was unaware of the specific circumstances of what was going on?

Idk it seems a bit murky. I'll wait to pass any judgment.
He'll still be in a lot of trouble for "trying to keep her quiet".
 

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Giving him the benefit of the doubt and I'm going to assume that he didn't know that the woman was being forced into it, but feck me it's still cagey as feck.

Edit: he tried to keep her quiet? Oh dear, oh dear... This might be pretty bad.
 

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The "they kept in touch afterwards because they were trying to keep her quiet" suggests otherwise.
Well, that's the witness' version. It all comes down to firstly, whether the witness was sexually assaulted, then it comes down to whether DDG had knowledge of it.

There's a lot to happen before it comes to DDG.
 

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I somehow find it both hard to believe and not surprising at all.
What a weird mix of feelings...
Same. It's like it baffles me how footballers now can be really thick enough not to think of the consequences, and/or spoiled enough to think they are untouchable. But it really shouldn't be a surprise, sadly, happens too often these days.
 

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I posted a photo of Munain and Martinez in the Newbies, it's not a very comfortable photo, i don't know if i should post it, am i allowed guys?
Honestly like I said to you down there, if in doubt don't do it. Especially as this forum is viewable to the public.
 

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Apparently this Torbe bloke was fairly infamous for his crimes against women - and is currently serving time for a whole manner of horrible stuff... so he may well have known, though this all happened 3/4 years ago, so who knows.
Yikes. As @sullydnl also points out, the tweets state that De Gea 'kept in touch' which seems to implicate some sort of guilt or knowledge...
 

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So he wasn't involved in the rape/sexual assault, but arranged for the meetings? Is it reasonable to think that he thought he was just helping some friends have their jollies and was unaware of the specific circumstances of what was going on?

Idk it seems a bit murky. I'll wait to pass any judgment.
This is a human trafficking case, we're talking about girls being forced into prostitution, arranging a meeting for other players to have sex with those girls is a crime.
 

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why is he in trouble? it seems he just arranged those meetings. i doubt he knew what they really do?

if i would get a hooker for some mates i would never think they rape someone?!
Well even if he didn't know prior (unlikely), he certainly would have known, if the tweet about them trying to keep her quiet is true.
 

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Until there's any evidence I think people should be taking this with a pinch of salt.

Not the first time people have made up false accusations against footballers or even our own footballers.
 

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This would explain why he changed his mind about a return to Spain.
Trying to keep her quiet is the killer for him. If guilty he should never play for us again.
 

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The report clearly states the police don't have any evidence of this.
 

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I'm fairly sure that the story is old and De Gea has been mentioned a long time ago. I don't know what to think about it though.
 

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Honestly like I said to you down there, if in doubt don't do it. Especially as this forum is viewable to the public.
Meh, i guess it isn't NSFW, so it's not horrible, thanks for the guidance though.
 

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WTF?? I've just seen this now, crazy shit, no defending him if it's true.
 

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Meh, i guess it isn't NSFW, so it's not horrible, thanks for the guidance though.
It's not the NSFW part which is the problem, it's more of a legal case ends up coming from this certain things can put the forum owner on dodgy grounds.
 

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When you have that kind of money at 21 that's possible. Shocking though. Edurne is probally devastated right now.
 

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This does not look good at all. To even be involved with prostitutes says a lot about your character. Eagerly awaiting more information about this whole case, and DDGs involvement in particular ofc.
 

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This would explain why he changed his mind about a return to Spain.
Trying to keep her quiet is the killer for him. If guilty he should never play for us again.
IF, and it's a big IF, he did know about it then he has more to worry about than just never playing for us again. Although I really doubt the case will be proven easily for a variety of reasons, one being the delay in all this so proving a sexual assault case will be very, very difficult.
 

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On reading this thread, you'd swear that the whole thing was solely down to De Gea.
Well, he is alleged to have arranged it, so in a way....

Plus obviously we're more concerned at our own player's involvement.
 

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Someone horrendously close to me was raped a few years ago and it is something I take very very seriously - I would hang rapists the second they are declared guilty rather than mess around with prison. However - innocent until proven guilty... especially when we are talking about twitter rumours regarding the Spanish porn industry (a subject I do not claim to be an expert on)
 

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Think the mods should step in. The other guy being accused here Muniain, says nobody police or courts has contacted him about this. The report also says police don't have any evidence that all this shite took place. And it seems the case is as old as 2011. That's the year we signed him ffs.
 

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They don't have evidence of DDG apparently trying to arrange another meet, I think.
Yeah, according to the tweets it's the alleged meet with Manchester United players that there seems to be no evidence of.
 

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This does not look good at all. To even be involved with prostitutes says a lot about your character. Eagerly awaiting more information about this whole case, and DDGs involvement in particular ofc.
I don't think involvement in prostitution is that big a deal in today's world, especially where it is not illegal. But sexual assault is completely different matter which actually shows the depraved nature of a person.
 

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Someone horrendously close to me was raped a few years ago and it is something I take very very seriously - I would hang rapists the second they are declared guilty rather than mess around with prison. However - innocent until proven guilty... especially when we are talking about twitter rumours regarding the Spanish porn industry (a subject I do not claim to be an expert on)
Hes not actually implicated in rape btw
 

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It's not the NSFW part which is the problem, it's more of a legal case ends up coming from this certain things can put the forum owner on dodgy grounds.
Yeah true and i can't post pictures here anyway so very stupid on my behalf.
 

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Think the mods should step in. The other guy being accused here Muniain, says nobody police or courts has contacted him about this. The report also says police don't have any evidence that all this shite took place. And it seems the case is as old as 2011. That's the year we signed him ffs.
Are you sure? From what I've seen it looks that the police do not have reports only about the purported Manchester United meet with 5 other players.