Excellent point.
Amad Diallo | Sunderland Loan Watch
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You are having a mare.
Start by acknowledging that.
This is just internet.
Very good post, point about video game is spot on.
I'm not a United fan but I'm pretty sure Giggs and Scholes never went out on loan, they went straight from the youth team into the first team.
It's weird how down you are on Amad, he seems to be progressing well. It seems that unless he's absolutely ripping up the league, he is deemed to be failing.
I do tend to agree with your point generally and I have made similar posts - some of the people on here do seem to believe that you just 'get better' with age....i.e. like your technique improves or something, which is not necessarily the case
I do feel, however, that Amad might be one of those rare cases were we can't really judge him until he's 22/23. Reason being, he's clearly got loads of technical ability and I feel it's just his physique/the mental side of the game which needs to be improved and that can be something that comes with games and time
Overall though, I'd say if I had to bet, the odds are against him being a top-level United player...but I think we give him a little bit more time
Just tired of people overhyping youth product. Ravel, macheda etc etc.
And if we're aiming for title challenge.. it doesnt look like amad is going near there or even thereabout.
He wont be on loan if he's anywhere near good enough.
Give him a couple of seasons of regular first team mens football and then judge him. I don't know enough about him to judge properly. But everything I've read about him suggests he has the right mentality and willingness to learn and he certainly looks a superb technical footballer.
How he is managed will also be crucial.
Remember hearing Laurie Whitwell in the Athletic explain that they always quoted the fully loaded figure because the add-ons were considered to be such low hanging fruit to attain.
Surely that betrays your logic considering you thought Scholes and Giggs went on loan and Beckham did?
Let the man develop ffs.
Some players take longer than others.
Some players take longer than others.
Funny reading some of these comments about him not showing enough already at this age and if he was good enough he wouldn't be on loan and so on
I guess the same people are liking Dalot now who had to go on loan and took quite some time to cement his place and and progress to being worthy of playing for United
I guess the same people are liking Dalot now who had to go on loan and took quite some time to cement his place and and progress to being worthy of playing for United
You've wiped the floor with him here
He's constantly on a whinge or dying for attention. Do you have to be special by 21? WTF is that all about? Its just a dumb statement. As if there are such certainties in life.
Kevin de Bruyne was at Genk at 21 then Chelsea and then went on loan at 22-23y.o.
Only went to City at 24-25y.o
Big night tonight. Hannibal v Amad.
Oh yeah, thanks for saying.
Look. I have nothing personal with the boy. Good attitude and all that. Wasnt his fault he's not ready for a title challenging aspiring United. 100% not on him.
Saying he wont likely making it has nothing to do with not believing the boy or writing him off. The odds of a player like him (young, not ready, loaned all over the place, hoping he'd improve) is against him. Even Chelsea only managed a few addition worthy of first team squad amongst their list of loans afew years ago,. which is huge.
If ETH works well, we'd be looking for top 4 or top 3 challenge next season,.and if god forbid we got top 4 this season it'll be champions league next season. We wont have time and luxury to give time to hopeful punts.
It really is nothing personal. He wont make it. And to be considered making it he'd have to be at least good enough to push our 100M signing Anthony. Whats the odds of that?
Sure give him 2-3 years on loan. I still dont see him being on Anthony level. You either have it or you dont. There's not much playing for the likes of rangers or sunderland can do to improve you 2 or 3 folds your current abiltiy
Glad to be proven wrong.
Saying a player dont look like making it is whinging and attention seeking?
Sure. All is rosy.. here's to our next de Bruyne
But anyway. I'm simply ignoring you. Good day
Hannibal vs Amad 
Imagine if they secretly rehearsed a sequence of play where they faced off which each other and both came out looking good.
I remember 2 of my mates in Uni doing exactly that for karate grading - they faced off with each other and both looked unbelievable. Turned out they'd rehearsed days without end to make it all look realistic and brilliant
Obviously harder to do with football as there are other players who'd get involved and spoil things!
Imagine if they secretly rehearsed a sequence of play where they faced off which each other and both came out looking good.
I remember 2 of my mates in Uni doing exactly that for karate grading - they faced off with each other and both looked unbelievable. Turned out they'd rehearsed days without end to make it all look realistic and brilliant
Obviously harder to do with football as there are other players who'd get involved and spoil things!
On sky sports as well!
The adaptation to adult level is more difficult for Amad. But the few times he played in the academy, he showed levels that Garnacho even hasn't. Complete dominance.
Garnacho is doing a great job and his skill set really suits adult football. He is fearless and hungry and full backs arent used to that, they are used to defensive wingers who's main purpose is tracking back and retaining possession.
Garnacho is doing a great job and his skill set really suits adult football. He is fearless and hungry and full backs arent used to that, they are used to defensive wingers who's main purpose is tracking back and retaining possession.
Amad needed regular men’s football. He was at that point when we signed him (infact he was meant to be going on loan in Serie A from memory?). Even Atalanta thought this.
Unfortunately I don’t think he was managed properly in his first season and the club somewhat let him down which means he’s behind schedule.
Much better to judge the player following his loan at Rangers and then at Sunderland. He’ll have so much more experience so bring back to United. Then we shall see.
Unfortunately I don’t think he was managed properly in his first season and the club somewhat let him down which means he’s behind schedule.
Much better to judge the player following his loan at Rangers and then at Sunderland. He’ll have so much more experience so bring back to United. Then we shall see.
He was injured that's why he didn't go on loan. But was clearly too good for the academy but levels below what was required for the 1st team.
Oh please do. But you had promised me that a while ago too, much to my disappointment.
He stayed put at Atalanta for a few months not doing much when he was supposed to go to Parma if United didn't sign him.
The injury was last year which stopped him from going to Feyenoord. He has been unlucky and lost a year and a half of development mostly to circumstances out of his hand.
Amad almost scored, although may have been off.
Good cross from left wing on the counter, at far post Amad was coming in, GK saved his shot.
Good cross from left wing on the counter, at far post Amad was coming in, GK saved his shot.
Showed a great turn of pace then,
Certainly not slow.
Certainly not slow.
Fantastic play there.
Great assist.
Excellent feet to set up the goal
Lovely assist from amad
Nice assist.
Amad on the edge of the box with tenacity and good feet, got out of a tough spot, nice pass for the goalscorer
Showed good strength for the goal
That was a genuine assist. How he kept control and possession and then found the angle for the pass. Fantastic skill.
So calm with the ball!! 3 players so close to him and he kept his cool and found a team mate with a good pass.
Showed good strength there.
Seems like things are going well for Amad there at Sunderland now. Regular starter and quite a few goal contributions in the last few games, good to see.