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166k a week. The big difference is 4 years. We probably offered him 150k at 2+1 years

Assuming it is before tax. Seen somewhere after tax, which is crazy if true.
€8m/y is £132k/w.
 

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€8m/y is £132k/w.
I calculated in Euros. I still think the length of contract and the lack of wanting him signed quicker sealed the deal. Dont think he would go back to Bilbao, but PSG or Barca and he would jump immediately
 

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He's overrated and can be easily replaced if United are serious
Never said he was Messi but he puts in a shift compared to the other muppets collecting a check.
 

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It would be dumb for the club to try and match PSG's offer and it would be dumb for him to not take PSG's offer. No one is wrong here.
 

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Never said he was Messi but he puts in a shift compared to the other muppets collecting a check.
Putting in a shift is not a qualification in singularity for playing in a club chasing for honors neither is it automatically an indication of quality. Not saying he never tried or never contributed, he was massively overrated though and not deserving of the wages he was demanding IMO. He'll be 30 in August, PSG are foolish in offering him a 4 year contract
 

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Ridiculously underrated by some on here. He's not a world beater but he has the same profile/qualities of Liverpool's midfield and they're doing pretty well. If we want to play a high intensity press then Ander should be a part of our plans.

I'll miss these types of performances when he goes :(


 

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Ridiculously underrated by some on here. He's not a world beater but he has the same profile/qualities of Liverpool's midfield and they're doing pretty well. If we want to play a high intensity press then Ander should be a part of our plans.

I'll miss these types of performances when he goes :(


Exactly, it's not just about his own talent, it's about what he brings to the team - intensity, drive, captain.
Plus he made Pogba purr. But that's another discussion. He's everything this team should be about, and it's a travesty he's going.
 

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I probably agree that long term we need an upgrade but looking at the level and magnitude of utter shite that needs weeding out before him I think it may be prudent to give him that contract - even at worst he's a decent squad player. As for the inflated wage demands - well we have Ed and Alexis to thank for that.
 

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It would be dumb for the club to try and match PSG's offer and it would be dumb for him to not take PSG's offer. No one is wrong here.
It’s our fault for letting his contract run so close to the end. Should have wrapped it earlier.
 

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It’s our fault for letting his contract run so close to the end. Should have wrapped it earlier.
We have been in negotiations for about 18 months, not the club's fault if he isn't interested in accepting the offer and rightfully so if he is getting a higher offer from PSG.
 

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Herrera is probably only one of the very few players who can be in our starting 11 or in squad. He is an instinctive passer of the ball with high energy for pressing.
The way some of the posters are saying that he can be easily replaced is laughable.
The club not able to tie him up with a contract should tell us how badly this club is run from the football side of things.
 

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They fit the wage budget and have feck all to do with Herrera’s contract offer, nor playing position. Herrera isn’t a £250k a week player, if you think he is, then well what can I say.

Good luck to the lad, looks like he’s joining them just as they’re about to spiral down. Least he’ll earn a few bob doing so.
€32m over four years is about £135k a week.

But keep on making stuff up as long as it makes you feel better.
 

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166k a week. The big difference is 4 years. We probably offered him 150k at 2+1 years

Assuming it is before tax. Seen somewhere after tax, which is crazy if true.
€32m over four years is €8m a year. Which is €153,846 per week. At today’s exchange rate of 0.86 that’s about £132,300. Which is sod all in relative terms.

Obviously if it’s post-tax it’s a whole lot different.
 

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Good riddance absolutely rubbish, runs around like a headless chicken with zero quality on the ball. Hot and cold form throughout his years here and people give Pogba stick for inconsistency ?

There are numerous midfielders in world football who are more useful in possession and will improve the starting 11. Even Solskjaer said that when we lost the PSG home leg, they were on another level particularly in the midfield that's where the game was lost.
:lol: I mean what can you do but laugh..
 

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He may have just wanted a longer contract on the wage offered. We were never going to offer him a 4 year deal, most likely 2.
 

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Absolutely agree. It's all about incentives.

No one should get a fixed salary irrespective of outcomes. Forwards should especially be incentivised for goals and assists. Keepers and defenders should be incentivised for clean sheets and the like.

Woody should be incentivised to leave
I'm going to repeat myself with a clarification.

It's stupid what the club is doing with "reverse incentives" i.e. penalising players when they don't make CL. The only thing that does it create an air of cutbacks and despondence.

We need to instead baseline players salaries lower and give them positive incentives for better performance.

The club is not only failing on the football side, they're also now seemingly taking poor business decisions.
 

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For just 150k a week?? What the actual feck
In euros, in sterling it'd be even less.

We're losing Herrera cos we aren't willing to pay him more than Ashley Young and Phil Jones. :lol:
 

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In euros, in sterling it'd be even less.

We're losing Herrera cos we aren't willing to pay him more than Ashley Young and Phil Jones. :lol:
No. We're not willing to give him a long contract, which is very sensible. Giving him a 4 year deal at his age is madness and we're smart to not do it.
 

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We have been in negotiations for about 18 months, not the club's fault if he isn't interested in accepting the offer and rightfully so if he is getting a higher offer from PSG.
No they haven't. There is links is thread stating they only got in touch with him the last few months.

His 1 yr extension was done via post ffs
 

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166k a week. The big difference is 4 years. We probably offered him 150k at 2+1 years

Assuming it is before tax. Seen somewhere after tax, which is crazy if true.
Can't imagine him jumping over for 166k a week gross, unless he's getting a massive signing on fee up front.

It's more likely to be the 150k euros a week net as reported. Similar to Ramsey
 

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He may have just wanted a longer contract on the wage offered. We were never going to offer him a 4 year deal, most likely 2.
Think that is the likely scenario. I can understand as a foreign player with a young family that you want stability. His little girl is coming to school age and would want to be settled somewhere, not constantly worrying that you could be on the move again.
 

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Think that is the likely scenario. I can understand as a foreign player with a young family that you want stability. His little girl is coming to school age and would want to be settled somewhere, not constantly worrying that you could be on the move again.
Yeah, very good point
 

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We could lose Herrera and Pogba this summer...without replacements our midfield would be mid table (at best). We'll struggle to compete with the likes of Everton and Wolves next season.
 

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No they haven't. There is links is thread stating they only got in touch with him the last few months.

His 1 yr extension was done via post ffs
This article by Ducker says we have been in negotiations since last summer.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/03/22/ander-herrera-hoping-agree-deal-man-utd-despite-psg-interest/

And this article says about his demands being unreasonable
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/manchesterunited/man-utd-transfer-plans-create-problems-with-ander-herrera-contract-negotiations-a4099446.html

And here Luckhurst talks about negotiations being on for 18 months.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-transfer-news-solskjaer-16128855
 
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extended by post last year....

Everything is in this thread and has already been discussed...
 

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Interesting take. Is there more to the story than we think?
Woodward didnt handle it well

 

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extended by post last year....

Everything is in this thread and has already been discussed...
I am not even disagreeing about being informed via post. There are enough reports saying that we have discussed his new deal last year but he is demanding a lot more than we are prepared to give w.r.t. salary as well as contract length.
 

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I am not even disagreeing about being informed via post. There are enough reports saying that we have discussed his new deal last year but he is demanding a lot more than we are prepared to give w.r.t. salary as well as contract length.
And what will we give to replace him ?. This is incompetence on an unbelievable scale and its what happens when you place a merchant banker in a position that includes contact with humans .
 
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