Tranformative signing.
Having a pro-actice "keeper who loves leaving his box is obviously not something we're used to.
Having a pro-actice "keeper who loves leaving his box is obviously not something we're used to.
André Onana | Officially a Red! | #24
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
His style is going to take a while for our support to grow accustomed to. 
I dunno about his keeping style but I am totally for his dress style. Cargo shorts ftw.
Better than Shaw's oversized denim pyjamas.
Better than Shaw's oversized denim pyjamas.
Yep, clear as day.
As for whether he's the right man, gut feeling says yes: he strikes me as a United player.
But my gut feeling is hardly infallible.
A little bit worrying though that it's been much worse the past two seasons than it was before that.
Not really. That bad season at Ajax was only a handful matches after his suspension mostly because he was being booed for not signing a new contract. He took that lack of confidence with him to Inter but has greatly avenged himself last season and that form is close or even better than his Ajax 18/19 form.
He's 42 percentile in his Inter season though (ie, below average)?
Save% in all but one of those seasons is better than DDG last season (when he was supposed to he back to his best)
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He didn't even start at Inter as first keeper so I would not read to much into it. His most recent season and his best two seasons at Ajax before the suspension tells me all I need to know.
Didn't he have the best xG save percentage in the Champions League last season? He was literally the best shot stopper in the best competition. I'm not sure where the myth of him being a weak shot stopper comes from.
Onana is basically De Gea but with better dribbling and passing ability.
The hope is that most of him being below average was in the earlier part of the season, when he'd barely played for about 18 months. If that is the case and he improved as the season wore on, then that period (along with his games when he first returned for Ajax) would be expected to be a bit of an exception.
Can he play tomorrow?
Not sure what the deal is with work permits all that
Not sure what the deal is with work permits all that
I'd be very surprised if he plays. He's been flying all over the globe for a couple of days and probably hasn't trained one minute with the team yet.
Ye me too but I was more wondering if all the paperwork is in place yet
I mean most the first team squad are lacking in match fitness anyway, so I don't think a bit of rustiness would be an issue. Its what preseasons for anyway.
even the vertical stripes not doing him favours there. going to be a hard preseason for him.
Richard Keys already digging him out. Calling it a big gamble by Ten Hag (he seems to have an issue with the man) and he'll miss the saves De Gea would have made.
Really really hope he does well but also worried about the blooper reel he will amass.
Just don't let this be a post Schmeichel debacle.
Just don't let this be a post Schmeichel debacle.
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Match fitness yes. But at least they've trained together for a week now, on top of the past seasons. It's important for our team to get to know Onana and how to play with him, but as I said I'd be very surprised if he plays tomorrow.
Why are so many worried about some future bloopers he might make, can't you enjoy present and not worry constantly? I am looking forward to Andre's shenanigans on the field, who cares if makes some mistakes. The lad is a character, that's for sure!
Can't wait to see this lad play for us, absolutely delighted we got him.
I'm honestly not sure if this is a footballsupporters thing or typically CAF but praise and excitement dominated this topic, the ink of his signature isn't fully dry yet or anxiety and moaning seem to kick in.
Is he in the US yet?
PTSD from years of mediocrity.
The club's legal team will have a relationship with a US firm that can fast track any required paperwork.
What's he like when it comes to taking crosses and just generally commanding his area? That's the thing that Van da Sar excelled at and something De Gea never really improved upon.
As an Ajax fan what are your thoughts? Are we going to love him or hate him?
That I get. The Ajax forum is no joy either right now after last season's debacle but some of you are perfect Statler and Waldorfs.
No wonder he took those weight loss pills
Overall he was no doubt my favorite GK since VDS. Yes, he can raise your heartbeat in a bad way on occasions but as I have said before, if an opponent's forward managed to beat our defenders my main feeling was always: "Good job, now good luck getting it passed Onana." That much confidence I had in his GK abilities.
Also he is a fun guy. When we scored and everyone else was across the pitch, Andre would celebrate the goal with the fans ever so often.
That's excellent to be fair, have to say shot stopping is my worry about him but sure he'll be great.
I honestly am a little amazed by that. Not just you but I saw so many people worry about that. I've seen him making saves in 18/19 and 19/20 most people already considered a goal. My main concern would be crosses. He's good with them but this time he has to do it in a league where the average player seems longer than in all other leagues. He might need some to to adjust to that.
You have alleviated my concerns! Thank you.
Will he start tomorrow night or to soon?
I agree with you. People are talking as if DDG was still at his shot stopping prime (2012-2018) which is a level he isn’t anymore.
Onana is actually a better shot stopper than current DDG, and that’s one of the reasons why I like this transfer of him over someone like Raya who is objectively a worst shot stopper than even current DDG.
People will compara Onana’s shot stopping to prime DDG, but that player doesn’t exist anymore.
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We are always looking for the “absolute perfection” otherwise some fans will always have “doubts”. Perfection doesn’t exist and we have to find the best possible player for us right now and he is by far the best we could’ve gotten. We improve in all departments as a result of a proactive keeper. When fans see how we are suddenly 20 yards higher up the pitch and opposition 20 yards further back, we will start to understand the importance of a keeper like him hopefully.
Onana his shot stopping might not be prime de Gea or Courtois levels but now people are overreacting as if he jumps away from the ball instead of stopping it. He might not be in the 0.1% of shot stoppers but he is still very capable of keeping the ball out of the net.
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