Onana what's my name
André Onana | signed for United | On a flight to NYC
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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If we sign him then no need to create a chant for him.
£40m? Seems cheap.
I would be all for it. What I have seen of him looks good and we need to venture into this more modern goalkeeper who is happy with the ball at his feet.
Also seems a lot more commanding of his area.
I would be all for it. What I have seen of him looks good and we need to venture into this more modern goalkeeper who is happy with the ball at his feet.
Also seems a lot more commanding of his area.
Well he'd have a good chant built-in, so that's something.
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Him and Tagliafico claimed they wont be leaving this summer... not that is says much but i do think Onana will stay at Ajax for another year. He can still learn some things at Ajax too.
Are we selling DDG then?
71 pcs performances for Sampdoria, not bad for a back up. 96 caps for Argentina. Look he's not the long term answer. We've areas of concern in our team that need addressed pronto and we don't have a bottomless pit of money. Henderson is legit, still needs a season or 2 to develop. Romero is good enough for this transformation season. By the way Onana has made his fair share of feck ups in a pretty poor dutch league, all keepers do. Let's target the positions we need to priortise in first. Let's remember we have an outstanding young keeper on our books who excelled in the championship. I think that league is a much harder league certainly physically than playing for a dominant Ajax team in the Dutch league
I have only seen clips of henderson so could not challenge you on that. From what i have seen of Onana, he is a agile keeper but so erratic. I think he still has a long way to go to command a presence. For me Romero is quality. He is calm and collected, makes some brilliant saves and i think has a good few years of service during our transition which would likely take a few years. For me the best keeper to buy would be Oblak but i do not think he would be patient enough to go through what we have to in the next few years. I also think Onana has his heart on Barca and would use us for a stop gap. We need to build a foundation.
Half of those Samp appearances were in Seria B. He lost his place to Viviano and kept losing it when given second and third chance. Argentina aren't really boasting with good keepers, either. He hasn't been consistent starter since 12/13 season. He isn't good enough to be our #1 next year.
If we sell DDG and don't get another #1 in we will have one more position with a huge concern which would cost us tons of points next year - you saw it with a much greater keeper in De Gea when he fell out of form.
I think you underestimate confidence for a keeper. Romero already showed at Sampdoria that he can fall off a cliff when making series of feck ups. Filling here and there doesn't mean he is good enough, far from it.
Onana put in some excellent performances in CL, he has 36 appearances in Europe alone, played more than 130 games in the last 3 seasons as #1. To me he shits all over Romero.
We wouldn't play Romero for more than half a season. He'd be the stop gap should we sell de Gea after we got tired of him not resigning with us. Absolutely agree on that foundation thing. Want away players are no foundation to build on.
Not big specialist either, mate, that's why I said from what I've seen, which admittedly is not much, but Henderson's distribution hasn't really been the best from what I've seen.
Romero is average and has been throughout his career. He got plaudits for some good saves against Wolves for example, but was at fault for both goals and reason why we went out. He's 32 and has played 17 league games in the last 6 seasons. De Gea was our best player in 7 of the last 8 years. The discrepancy between the quality we're replacing him is really huge.
Who gives a feck what keeper you sign. Such a pointless position. Just get a dude that is able to catch a football.
I cant get excited about goalkeepers.
I cant get excited about goalkeepers.
Nor is de Gea's distribution up there with the best.
Distribution accuracy (%)
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Manuel Neuer .............. 93
Gianluigi Donnarumma .. 88
Pau Lopez ................. 82
Thomas Strakosha ...... 81
Andre Onana ........... 79
De Gea, David ......... 65
Henderson, Dean ....... 53
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Yeah, he needs to improve that and leaving his line. DDG has some outstanding qualities, but distribution isn't one of them.
Very similar to Oblak, both don't really suit a high line defence.
Again, for Henderson is purely observation, not stats based. I see it's low at 53, how many games is that based on?
You don't have to apologize, you're making your point in a respectful manner. I didn't mean any disrespect myself but your post does appear to me like a sweeping statement/generalization of goalkeepers from those regions. I mean its one thing to say the only keeper from Africa you've rated is Nkono (which is fine) to making the statements in bold which have nothing to do with the player being discussed specifically. When you lead in with those observations you leave yourself open to criticism or suspicion of your main intent, wouldn't you agree?
I didn't mention ethnicity myself but Onana did in that interview and I posted it because I felt it fits the current discussion. There is a very small sample of goalkeepers from those regions in European football altogether, let alone top tier clubs so it would be fair to just analyze the player on his own merits rather than mention what region he comes from and your thoughts on players before him from the same region. Scotland haven't produced a great or world class player in a while for instance but I haven't once read evaluations (or seen any similar anecdotal observations) of Liverpool's Robertson in relation to his nationality/region.
36 for Henderson, 39 for de Gea. Spreadsheet of data here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MiAF4entxGOHEgGNm0UUsq3JcvYy57GNP6Jrh9cBSXA/edit#gid=0
he has a big frame and very long arms for his height
Onana is 3x better and 10x more promising
I've barely seen him but you're making him sound like Barthez here.
What's his name?
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You must've played as a striker if you ever played at all didn't you? Those are the guys who usually think goalies and defenders are pointless
Might as well put me in goal.
I admit that I've not seen much of Ajax. However Onana always looked the the weakest link in the team.
I don't think you can cheat replacing De Gea. If he goes you need to go out and at least try to get one Europe's top goalkeepers (a la Oblak). Promoting Romero will be a disaster and getting in a young up and coming keeper like Onana is a massive gamble.
I don't think you can cheat replacing De Gea. If he goes you need to go out and at least try to get one Europe's top goalkeepers (a la Oblak). Promoting Romero will be a disaster and getting in a young up and coming keeper like Onana is a massive gamble.
What sort of reflexes do you have?
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This. Imagine spending 100m on Oblak or giving De gea 400k per week ffs
Provided you aren't replacing a GK with an error-prone one, you would barely notice any difference.
Then why do a select few command exorbitant transfer fees? We might as well give the spot to Joel Pereira or Henderson in that case. Its not happening though. There is such a thing as a world class goalkeeper, its not a myth.
Midfielder actually, but pointless isnt the right word, it just doesnt seem as important. Goalkeepers that is, defender is a different story.
I like the look of him but by signing him you'd be closing the door on the potential of Henderson.
Ajax got where they are with these players by being brave and playing them, if De Gea were to leave I think I'd be tempted to go with Romero and Henderson.
Ajax got where they are with these players by being brave and playing them, if De Gea were to leave I think I'd be tempted to go with Romero and Henderson.
That's just laughable mate. Sir Alex spent how many years replacing Schmeichel? There is a difference between average and world class GK. All GKs make mistakes like in every other position on the field, world class goalies tend to get over them and still provide something extraordinary.
Anyone who watched United take 6 years to replace Peter Schmeichel should understand the importance of a good keeper.
The reason it took 6 years to replace Schmeichel is because Barthez was too Short for the PL. And Bosnich was a ill disciplined ex player that we brought back from Villa.
Roy Carroll and Tim Howard from the MLS and Wigan Athletic were never good enough to replace the great Dane.
Van der sar we moved too slow for when he left Ajax and ended up at Juve. Fulham then signed him from Juve whilst we had goalkeepers signed from Wigan and the MLS battling it out for supremacy at Old Trafford.
When we eventually signed Van der Sar who was a proven winner in Europe, Schmeichel was replaced.
It's a pity it took 6 years, because there was some great keepers playing that we overlooked like Francesco Toldo, to give chances to the likes of the keepers I've mentioned above who hadn't even played in big games.
Roy Carroll and Tim Howard from the MLS and Wigan Athletic were never good enough to replace the great Dane.
Van der sar we moved too slow for when he left Ajax and ended up at Juve. Fulham then signed him from Juve whilst we had goalkeepers signed from Wigan and the MLS battling it out for supremacy at Old Trafford.
When we eventually signed Van der Sar who was a proven winner in Europe, Schmeichel was replaced.
It's a pity it took 6 years, because there was some great keepers playing that we overlooked like Francesco Toldo, to give chances to the likes of the keepers I've mentioned above who hadn't even played in big games.
I liked the look of him for Ajax, he's young and has had a very successful season. If De Gea is going I'd be happy with this
This is a excellent video which show cases his sweeper ability and fantastic composure on the ball. He also shows fantastic bravery on occasion in the below vid.
Onanaism?
How is he with crosses? If does a Bravo,H we're dunk. His distribution looks like the new breed, simple & not too rushed, although not exactly pressed that much in the Bayern highlights. Figures he's good on the ball coming from the Barca academy, but he also has a good backline to pass it to. Gotta get De Ligt or at least Alderweireld to pair with Lindelof.
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