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a fee fairly uncredible links to this guy lately. possibly not worth a thread... but mbappe got one!

talk about a 35m euro fee which makes this a bargain basement player in today's market. he is very young and has some excellent seasons with Valencia behind him. Would surely just be signed as competition and cover for our midfield pair in Herrera and pogba. was lined up as a first team player for city last year - anyone think he could get another bite of the Apple here ?
 
Only seen that Palmeri bloke link us to him and he's as unreliable as it gets, at any rate he hasn't impressed me for Barca this season.
 
Let's be honest it wont be 35m Euros will it. If we come into the bidding Barca will double that fee, especially if they want Verratti.
 
In today's market 35 million is a good price, but has struggled at Barca, and if they're willing to part so easily for so cheap there must be a reason, id rather we steered clear of this one.

Also he's not really the type of player we need, i feel we need a DM to balance our midfield and let Herrera & Pogba do their thing a little further up the pitch, without having to worry about protecting the back 4.

But yesterday I wrongly pointed out that Matuidi & Keita could do a job at DM, so what do i know?! Gomes would probably be a hit here! :lol::lol::lol:
 
He's very talented, but we need to trust Pereira with some level of responsibility at some point. Pereira himself just had a better season in La Liga than Gomes.
 
He's just had a woeful season with Barca. What better club is out there to clean up Barca's expensive mistake than United?

I actually predicted months ago this would happen. Hopefully it doesn't. He's utter dross.
 
OneReligion said:
In today's market 35 million is a good price, but has struggled at Barca, and if they're willing to part so easily for so cheap there must be a reason, id rather we steered clear of this one.

Also he's not really the type of player we need, i feel we need a DM to balance our midfield and let Herrera & Pogba do their thing a little further up the pitch, without having to worry about protecting the back 4.

But yesterday I wrongly pointed out that Matuidi & Keita could do a job at DM, so what do i know?! Gomes would probably be a hit here! :lol::lol::lol:
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haha well he's not the man to sign for a midfield 3 - but could he be effective competition at that price? He is 24 in a month

Agree that if Barce will part cheaply that isn't great... but on the flip side, he was so good for Valencia that Barce bought him. It is possible that he just doesn't fit their style. He is quite combative form what I've seen
 
Please no. He was terrible for Barcelona this past season with the exemption of the latter phase where he scored a few goals. He's simply not got the class that an attacking midfielder/playmaking should have at a top club. Very limited from what I've seen. Seems the completely opposite of City's signing Silva who has the kind of technical quality you want from an AM.
 
These players we are being linked with are really concerning. I don't believe this one, but just hope Jose \ Woody have some deals under the radar we don't know about because the Gomes, Dier, Matic, Perisic deals just aren't going to improve us IMHO.
 
If we can get him for under 50 quid and can pay him in potatoes and custard creams I'll be happy. Anything more and it'll be a rip off for a bench warmer.
 
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Literally can't recall him doing anything for Barcelona last year and I watched them a bunch, he might have had a difficult first season and still has talent but he didn't impress me... at all, so far from what i've seen of him.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Please no. He was terrible for Barcelona this past season with the exemption of the latter phase where he scored a few goals. He's simply not got the class that an attacking midfielder/playmaking should have at a top club. Very limited from what I've seen. Seems the completely opposite of City's signing Silva who has the kind of technical quality you want from an AM.
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I totally agree, what does concern me is how efficient City are with their transfers, and snap up some great talent and potential,in what seems like a couple of days. while it seems we just sort of wonder around waiting for other teams cast offs?! :lol:

I understand at this very moment in time we need established players not kids, but we're the richest club on the planet, i feel we should be snapping up a few of these young, future stars.
 
I haven't kept up with him this season but didn't he have a good Euros? And a year ago he was being fought for by Madrid and Barcelona.

If Mourinho thinks he can get the best from him, then I'm fine with that. If he's available for about £27m, you'd have to call that excellent business in a market where Pickford is worth £30m and Lukaku valued at about £90m
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
These players we are being linked with are really concerning. I don't believe this one, but just hope Jose \ Woody have some deals under the radar we don't know about because the Gomes, Dier, Matic, Perisic deals just aren't going to improve us IMHO.
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Do we really need to improve CM though? Herrera and Pogba are the best two in the league in my opinion. Pogba was magic in a 2 the other night.

We need to improve the wings and number 10 and 9. For me, we need competition in CM and Gomes at that price would mean we don't need to spend 50-60M on competition.
 
He looks like the Fellaini of Barca. Just very awkward.

It's a no from me because his best position is number 10 and we need a controller/CDM rather than another number 10.
 
OneReligion said:
I totally agree, what does concern me is how efficient City are with their transfers, and snap up some great talent and potential,in what seems like a couple of days. while it seems we just sort of wonder around waiting for other teams cast offs?! :lol:

I understand at this very moment in time we need established players not kids, but we're the richest club on the planet, i feel we should be snapping up a few of these young, future stars.
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In fairness, we have rashford, martial, periera. That is a good number of kids to try to get game time across the front 3/4
 
LawCharltonBest said:
I haven't kept up with him this season but didn't he have a good Euros? And a year ago he was being fought for by Madrid and Barcelona.

If Mourinho thinks he can get the best from him, then I'm fine with that. If he's available for about £27m, you'd have to call that excellent business in a market where Pickford is worth £30m and Lukaku valued at about £90m
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He was excellent and yes he is a bit of a mourinho midfielder, very strong. I don't know about people saying he's the fellaini of barce.... maybe the fellaini of barce is a pretty skillful player for us
 
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In fairness, we have rashford, martial, periera. That is a good number of kids to try to get game time across the front 3/4
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fair point, Perira had a decent season with Granada, Martial needs to sort his attitude out, and Rash just needs to carry on as he is!
 
Crashoutcassius said:
Do we really need to improve CM though? Herrera and Pogba are the best two in the league in my opinion. Pogba was magic in a 2 the other night.

We need to improve the wings and number 10 and 9. For me, we need competition in CM and Gomes at that price would mean we don't need to spend 50-60M on competition.
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It might be worth mentioning that the addition of Lemar and Kanté played a big part in that, Pogba was free to do what he wanted because in the first half Lemar was doing his job in terms of playmaking and defense while Kanté improved a lot during the second half. We don't have players with those characteristics.

And Gomes wasn't excellent during the Euro, though he showed promises with Valencia.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
Do we really need to improve CM though? Herrera and Pogba are the best two in the league in my opinion. Pogba was magic in a 2 the other night.

We need to improve the wings and number 10 and 9. For me, we need competition in CM and Gomes at that price would mean we don't need to spend 50-60M on competition.
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In my honest opinion, I think we need a DM yes if we really want to get the best out of Pogba. Pogba is an absolute beast when he has a firm DM behind him. Just look at the other night how he performs when he has a Kante next to him.
 
He was extremely overrated at Valencia and I'm glad we didn't sign him last summer. Now he's Barcelona's problem until another club are dumb enough to take him off their hands. Hopefully it won't be us.
 
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And Gomes wasn't excellent during the Euro, though he showed promises with Valencia.
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Only want to discuss about this part since I disagree on Kante & Lemar are the sole reason Pogba played that well in the friendly. Gomes was quite average during the EURO as well as the season leading to the EURO for Valencia. His good season was the one before. So it has been around 2 seasons & a big international tournament (which his team won), with him being quite underwhelming. Not really dictate the play, control the game; not really defensive sound: intercepting, shielding the defense by positioning; skillful but means nothing when he is not powerful or quick enough to drive the midfield up the pitch; despite his physique quite weak in physical duel.. in short his attributes are all over the place.
 
André Gomes is a good player. I don't know if he will fit in United's but still...

Barcelona fans didn't "like" him because he is not the type of midfielder barcelona is used to have. He's no iniesta or xavi.

He was criticized since the start so is mentality was never balanced trough the season.
 
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Only want to discuss about this part since I disagree on Kante & Lemar are the sole reason Pogba played that well in the friendly. Gomes was quite average during the EURO as well as the season leading to the EURO for Valencia. His good season was the one before. So it has been around 2 seasons & a big international tournament (which his team won), with him being quite underwhelming. Not really dictate the play, control the game; not really defensive sound: intercepting, shielding the defense by positioning; skillful but means nothing when he is not powerful or quick enough to drive the midfield up the pitch; despite his physique quite weak in physical duel.. in short his attributes are all over the place.
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And I'm not discussing that part since you make up things.
 
Bruno Marques said:
André Gomes is a good player. I don't know if he will fit in United's but still...

Barcelona fans didn't "like" him because he is not the type of midfielder barcelona is used to have. He's no iniesta or xavi.

He was criticized since the start so is mentality was never balanced trough the season.
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Yeah, I think a lot of fans have been too harsh on the player - a player, mind you, who has been played in a variety of positions rather than his favored left sided midfield spot normally occupied by Iniesta. I think his attitude has been great and I see the potential of what he can bring, just hasn't put it all together consistently yet. Part of that is also on Lucho who really never created a cohesive midfield strategy apart from funneling the ball to the trident.

He's made mistakes of course which is to be expected as midfield is probably the most difficult position to adapt to at Barcelona. Defensively he has not been good enough and in terms of decision making it's clear he has not yet felt comfortable enough to assert himself - I have seen him indecisive at times and too risky with duels at other times. I do like how he plays with his head up and can deliver perfectly weighted passes. I am optimistic there are great things ahead for him, we'll see if it's at Barcelona
 
LawCharltonBest said:
I haven't kept up with him this season but didn't he have a good Euros? And a year ago he was being fought for by Madrid and Barcelona.

If Mourinho thinks he can get the best from him, then I'm fine with that. If he's available for about £27m, you'd have to call that excellent business in a market where Pickford is worth £30m and Lukaku valued at about £90m
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He was poor at the Euros.
 
FCBarca said:
Yeah, I think a lot of fans have been too harsh on the player - a player, mind you, who has been played in a variety of positions rather than his favored left sided midfield spot normally occupied by Iniesta. I think his attitude has been great and I see the potential of what he can bring, just hasn't put it all together consistently yet. Part of that is also on Lucho who really never created a cohesive midfield strategy apart from funneling the ball to the trident.

He's made mistakes of course which is to be expected as midfield is probably the most difficult position to adapt to at Barcelona. Defensively he has not been good enough and in terms of decision making it's clear he has not yet felt comfortable enough to assert himself - I have seen him indecisive at times and too risky with duels at other times. I do like how he plays with his head up and can deliver perfectly weighted passes. I am optimistic there are great things ahead for him, we'll see if it's at Barcelona
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That should rule him out for us then.
 
settembrini said:
He was extremely overrated at Valencia and I'm glad we didn't sign him last summer. Now he's Barcelona's problem until another club are dumb enough to take him off their hands. Hopefully it won't be us.
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I second this. Besides, we shouldn't be prioritizing an attack minded CM.
 
I said last year that Barca/Madrid move was too big for him and that it was a bad move. Im not sure a year later anything has changed my opinion of him and don't really think he is what we need at all.
 
He's always struck me as being the type of player that is the very definition of "central midfielder". He's not got the defensive discipline and isnt physical or combative enough to play as a destroyer, he's not really a got the engine and the work rate to be a proper box-to-box dynamo, he isn't the pacy trickster to play out wide effectively, and he isn't the creative genius to play as a proper number 10.

He's very much (in my opinion) a player that links play from back to front. He's mobile enough, though not blessed with any real pace or athleticism. He can pass well enough, but he's no Scholes. He can tackle well enough for a high press, but you wouldn't want him mopping up in front of the back four. He generally brings the ball forward, spreads play and it's his job to get the better players on the ball. Completely unspectacular in any one area of anything.

If the fees for him and for Renato Sanches were similar, say around 30m Euros, you'd just have to make a call on the fact that Gomes is more experienced and Sanches has more potential. Gomes is likely going to be calmer on the ball and less eye-catching, whereas Sanches will run himself into the ground but possibly at the risk of seeming like a headless chicken who hasn't yet developed the maturity and decision making.
 
Didn't he end up playing right back towards the end of the season for Barca?
 
TehRed said:
He's always struck me as being the type of player that is the very definition of "central midfielder". He's not got the defensive discipline and isnt physical or combative enough to play as a destroyer, he's not really a got the engine and the work rate to be a proper box-to-box dynamo, he isn't the pacy trickster to play out wide effectively, and he isn't the creative genius to play as a proper number 10.

He's very much (in my opinion) a player that links play from back to front. He's mobile enough, though not blessed with any real pace or athleticism. He can pass well enough, but he's no Scholes. He can tackle well enough for a high press, but you wouldn't want him mopping up in front of the back four. He generally brings the ball forward, spreads play and it's his job to get the better players on the ball. Completely unspectacular in any one area of anything.

If the fees for him and for Renato Sanches were similar, say around 30m Euros, you'd just have to make a call on the fact that Gomes is more experienced and Sanches has more potential. Gomes is likely going to be calmer on the ball and less eye-catching, whereas Sanches will run himself into the ground but possibly at the risk of seeming like a headless chicken who hasn't yet developed the maturity and decision making.
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I like that description, at the moment he looks like a good twelfth player in a top team. His fee willl be a problem because their are dozens of players like him.
 
cj_sparky said:
Didn't he end up playing right back towards the end of the season for Barca?
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Against Las Palmas who were terrific in possession and Digne who started the match got injured in the 2nd half - no one else available on the bench to fill in so, yes.
 
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Real abd Barca often get rid of young players who go on to be top drawer somewhere else. Nobody thought much of Fabinho or Romeu when they left Real and Barca. Andre Gomes will become a top player eventually but Romeu of Southampton you'd have to think would be far more the type of DM Jose would be looking for who would be very gettable with right offer
 
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