Ange Postecoglou | Reports suggest he will be sacked

JSArsenal said:
I want them to crash and burn in Europa with every fibre of my being but if Spurs were to win it. Big Ange should basically be unsociable until the end of the 2026 season.

A major European trophy and Spurs first trophy since 2008. Something Redknapp, Mourinho and Pochettino all failed to do. 17 years. If you don't consider the League Cup a "major" trophy, Spurs haven't won a thing since the early 90s(?).

Their fans won't remember what position they finished in for the past 4 years but will remember this Europa League win (if it happens).

Football is really an unforgiving game.
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I think it's more they've just completely let the league season go. In the winter months he at least had the excuse he had no fit defenders with Archie Gray having to start 8 games in a row at CB and also had many attackers injured.

Now the first choice backline is playing again in prem and they're still shipping 2-4 goals most games. He could also afford to have Johnson, Solanke and Maddison as subs for Forest.

This season Howe has won a cup and very likely to finish at least 5th now if not higher. Emery made CL QFs, in contention for top 5 and winning FA Cup remains a realistic chance and even Nuno hasn't just massively overachieved in the league but he's also taken Forest to FA Cup SF and they'll give Man. City a tough game.

I imagine Levy was expecting Spurs to be where Bournemouth are now in the league. They're more likely to finish 17th with the fixtures they have left.
 
PepG said:
Jupp Heynckes was sacked days after he won the Champions League for Real Madrid for the first time in 3 decades in 1998. The reason - poor La liga campaign..
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Abramovich also quickly realised quickly giving Di Matteo the job full time after winning the CL was a massive error. Weren't Chelsea about 8th when he was sacked the following November?
 
The last Spurs manager to win a trophy was Juande Ramos and he was pretty dreadful immediately thereafter. Obviously winning a trophy should put credit in a manager's bank but when they're already as far in the red as Postecoglou is...
 
Surely he is gone if Spurs don't win the Europa league. I'm not even sure that's enough to retain him. I'd fire him regardless
 
Clearly lucked out at the beginning, even that game against us back then I felt we could have scored a couple of times. Just going for it every match gets you a lot of credit but won't work unless you've got the players and a bit of wherewithal to know when to take your foot off the gas.

I can see him going somewhere like MLS.
 
Its lucky for spurs when the year ends in 1.

Edit: and begins with 1
 
xPts says he got lucky last year and should have had 8 points less but has been unlucky this year and should have 10 points more...

The biggest problem he has is the fans have turned against him... Possibly no way back from that.

I doubt whoever replaces will do much better.
 
FootballHQ said:
Abramovich also quickly realised quickly giving Di Matteo the job full time after winning the CL was a massive error. Weren't Chelsea about 8th when he was sacked the following November?
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Amazingly they were actually 3rd in the league, 4 points off top spot. But they were winless in 4 league games.

They were on the brink of going out of the CL group stage which was presumably the bigger issue.
 
It's quite telling when many think you should be sacked despite the possibility of you winning their club first trophy in 17 years, biggest trophy since 1991 and first European trophy since 1984. Personally I'm not sure Ange will lose his job if he actually goes on and wins the Europa. Trophy, CL football next season and big amount of money coming in as reward as well. Sure they're terrible in league and even worse than us atm but it's not like Spurs win stuff on regular basis.

Since early November Spurs played 12 league games at home. Lost 7, drew 3 and won 2 (against us and Southampton).

19 defeats in 34 games is some record. Probably few more to come in last 4 games.
 
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BorisManUtd said:
It's quite telling when many think you should be sacked despite the possibility of you winning their club first trophy in 17 years, biggest trophy since 1991 and first European trophy since 1984. Personally I'm not sure Ange will lose his job if he actually goes on and wins the Europa. Trophy, CL football next season and big amount of money coming in as reward as well. Sure they're terrible in league and even worse than us atm but it's not like Spurs win stuff on regular basis.
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It's probably because (almost) nobody actually believes they'll win the EL.
 
BorisManUtd said:
It's quite telling when many think you should be sacked despite the possibility of you winning their club first trophy in 17 years, biggest trophy since 1991 and first European trophy since 1984. Personally I'm not sure Ange will lose his job if he actually goes on and wins the Europa. Trophy, CL football next season and big amount of money coming in as reward as well. Sure they're terrible in league and even worse than us atm but it's not like Spurs win stuff on regular basis.

Since early November Spurs played 12 league games at home. Lost 7, drew 3 and won 2 (against us and Southampton).

19 defeats in 34 games is some record. Probably few more to come in last 4 games.
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Even if he wins it, he despise the club and its fans. There's no turning back, the relationship is dead.
 
BorisManUtd said:
Not sure about that. They're able to beat Bodo/Glimt and then in one-off game can beat Bilbao or United as well. It's not that unlikely now at all.
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Exactly, Spurs are probably the favs? United and Bilbao is a tough tie, in the final, they can easily beat both.

esp united, they have shown in the last 2 years, they have won all the games against us.
 
he's gone for sure if they get knocked out in teh semi of the europa to that Norwegian side
 
romufc said:
Exactly, Spurs are probably the favs? United and Bilbao is a tough tie, in the final, they can easily beat both.

esp united, they have shown in the last 2 years, they have won all the games against us.
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The spurs games recently were against EtH’s suicidal tactics and then a couple of close games against Amorim. I don’t know, I’m not sure how I’d feel about facing them in the final but I feel the previous games would have no bearing on it.

Bilbao are the clear favourites I feel. If we can beat them I’m confident we can win it.
 
I’ve seen many references to a bad relationship between him and the fans. What has happened there?
 
HTG said:
I’ve seen many references to a bad relationship between him and the fans. What has happened there?
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At the end of last season Spurs played against City and most Spurs fans actually wanted to lose that match so that Arsenal wouldn't win the league.

He looked quite shocked after that experience
 
This guy. Thinks it’s cos of ‘Spurs’ the talk about Europa winners not getting in the CL. Absolutely nothing to do with Manchester United being there ….



These last few months have really shown what kind of guy he is. Rude, petulant, paranoid and delusional. Good riddance in the summer.
 
Ludens the Red said:
This guy. Thinks it’s cos of ‘Spurs’ the talk about Europa winners not getting in the CL. Absolutely nothing to do with Manchester United being there ….



These last few months have really shown what kind of guy he is. Rude, petulant, paranoid and delusional. Good riddance in the summer.
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He's not fundamentally wrong that it's absurd it's suddenly become an "issue" despite it being the case for a decade, but yeah the media narrative is much more driven by the fact it's us than them.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
He's not fundamentally wrong that it's absurd it's suddenly become an "issue" despite it being the case for a decade, but yeah the media narrative is much more driven by the fact it's us than them.
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While that's true everyone would big up his own team. I think that's completely normal and you would be disappointed if your manager didn't do the same.
 
I don’t think it helps that both us and spurs are just one place above relegation zone. Does seem weird going into the champions league when you are far closer to relegation than champions
 
Rooney in Paris said:
He's not fundamentally wrong that it's absurd it's suddenly become an "issue" despite it being the case for a decade, but yeah the media narrative is much more driven by the fact it's us than them.
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It’s a ridiculous narrative that’s suddenly come up.

Also read an article this week that UEFA should not have allowed Chelsea to have been in the conference league as they are ‘too good’.

The reason clubs take the Europe League seriously has only been because of the CL spot, otherwise it would be a compete non entity of a competition.
 
Ludens the Red said:
This guy. Thinks it’s cos of ‘Spurs’ the talk about Europa winners not getting in the CL. Absolutely nothing to do with Manchester United being there ….



These last few months have really shown what kind of guy he is. Rude, petulant, paranoid and delusional. Good riddance in the summer.
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Amorim was asked about the same thing. Bit of a difference between how they both chose to answer it.
 
stefan92 said:
While that's true everyone would big up his own team. I think that's completely normal and you would be disappointed if your manager didn't do the same.
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Yeah that's fair of course, but it does tie in to the overall image of paranoia and delusion that he's been giving off for quite some time though (as @Ludens the Red alluded to)
 
Zlatan 7 said:
I don’t think it helps that both us and spurs are just one place above relegation zone. Does seem weird going into the champions league when you are far closer to relegation than champions
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If it was one of the usual bottom half clubs like Brentford or Bournemouth people would be loving it.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
I don’t think it helps that both us and spurs are just one place above relegation zone. Does seem weird going into the champions league when you are far closer to relegation than champions
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Every single player that has contributed to us being in this position should be ashamed, including Amorim.

But if a 'smaller' team was battling relagation & had reached the final, Wenger & the media would spin it differently. Wasn't the whole point of all these European football reforms to allow smaller teams to progress in competitions, Wenger's issue is that it's 2 'big' teams.
 
Remember the geese said:
Amorim was asked about the same thing. Bit of a difference between how they both chose to answer it.
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Yup, it’s amazing the contrast. You’d forget one was Manchester United manager and the other was Tottenham Hotspur manager. Basically going through identical situations where their philosophies are struggling, them and their teams are repeatedly facing criticism domestically but Europe is offering some form of salvation.
Yet Amorim can remain cool, calm and collected and completely un phased by pointing questions, meanwhile that buffoon embarrasses himself everytime a microphone goes near his mouth.

I genuinely get second hand embarrassment anytime he opens his mouth, can’t imagine what Spurs fans think.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
I don’t think it helps that both us and spurs are just one place above relegation zone. Does seem weird going into the champions league when you are far closer to relegation than champions
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Yeah that’s a pretty obvious reason why it’s a much bigger talking point now than it ever has been before. Really isn’t any need for this to kick off an ABU persecution complex.
 
How are spurs below us..... its like no matter how shit we are, theyre shittier
 
Remember the geese said:
He was calm. He basically said that we just play by the rules and the rules state that the winner of Europa gets Champions League, so whether it's right or wrong isn't for him to judge.
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Only sensible answer. Someone else can make the decision about how it should be in the future.
 
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