Nevilles.Wear.Prada
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Maybe. Or maybe a better equipped coaching team that didn't get the job just because they used to play for us at some point?
If you think signings will solve our problems, I feel sorry for you.
Don't get your hopes up because we both know all Ole has to do to remain in the jobWe are short of a world-class manager and top coaches of being an elite team. This is the hartsh truth. We will not be able to buy our way to major titles. Chelsea and City have as much money (if not more) than we do whilst having much better managers as well. Pool have a much better manager too. What we are deficient of copared to our main rivals in the league is the coaching team. I hope the Board pull the trigger if we do not challenege for major titles this season.
We have been allowing Ole to stay on as long as he have by giving him quality players. Until we get back to the United standards, rather than the Arsenal or Spurs standards, we will never get that top coach we need to be an elite team.We are short of a world-class manager and top coaches of being an elite team. This is the hartsh truth. We will not be able to buy our way to major titles. Chelsea and City have as much money (if not more) than we do whilst having much better managers as well. Pool have a much better manager too. What we are deficient of copared to our main rivals in the league is the coaching team. I hope the Board pull the trigger if we do not challenege for major titles this season.
Yeah but the board seem happy with Ole and he has a lot of support from important figures in the media which I know they listen to so I've accepted this fact that he is ok so long as we progress a bit and make top 4. He hasn't done a bad job that warrants replacing (2nd place finish) so technically yes we will have to compensate for his limitations with as much individual talent as possibleNot, it should be the other way round. Why did Chelsea won the league in 1 season, lost in the wilderness in the following, then won it again with a new manager, in the following season, with practically the same squad?
Chelsea again, how did Chelsea flipped in the middle of a season, with a new manager in charge, with the same squad?
In fact, there are numerous examples of Big Sam saving the day, in the middle of a season.
An inept manager can easily ruin a winning squad, just ask ourselves what happen a few years back. I don't think any of us would expect Moyes to step in and win again, but at least maintaining Top 4, make a few changes, and push forward again.
Beside, your definition of Best players in every position, could easily change, when a new manager has different perspective. Such as goalkeeper that can dribble; trying to make 100 cross into the box, when your #9 is 1.7m tall, and so on.
The board is kinda disjointed from the fans. The fans don't give ole much stick because he is a club legend (brilliant move by Ed). The media will give him free ride because he has lot of friends there and such a nice guy. Once in a while they make huge signings to please the fans and PR is covered. Everyone else has cought up. Meanwhile, they can continue leech the club and get sponsors upin sponsors because we are such a brand.Yeah but the board seem happy with Ole and he has a lot of support from important figures in the media which I know they listen to so I've accepted this fact that he is ok so long as we progress a bit and make top 4. He hasn't done a bad job that warrants replacing (2nd place finish) so technically yes we will have to compensate for his limitations with as much individual talent as possible
Give a Ferrari to a taxi driver and he'll crash it in a few corners. I agree that a better manager could be useful, but I also think we have two huge holes at DM and RB that feck us up way too often.We are short of a world-class manager and top coaches of being an elite team. This is the hartsh truth. We will not be able to buy our way to major titles. Chelsea and City have as much money (if not more) than we do whilst having much better managers as well. Pool have a much better manager too. What we are deficient of compared to our main rivals in the league is the coaching team. I hope the Board pull the trigger if we do not challenege for major titles this season.
Its amazing Chelsea won the CL with the glaring hole of "no reliable goal scorers upfront" . Highest scorer was Werner with 12. Amazing City won the league with no CF or LB but alas, United have to have a perfect 11 to compete. You know why that is right?Give a Ferrari to a taxi driver and he'll crash it in a few corners. I agree that a better manager could be useful, but I also think we have two huge holes at DM and RB that feck us up way too often.
They have good cover all around the pitch, even without a missing striker.Its amazing Chelsea won the CL with the glaring hole of "no reliable goal scorers upfront" . Highest scorer was Werner with 12. Amazing City won the league with no CF or LB but alas, United have to have a perfect 11 to compete. You know why that is right?
Everyone knew AWB was poor on the ball, even back in Crystal Palace. This is definitely on the manager who bought him and made him a regular starter.They have good cover all around the pitch, even without a missing striker.
We have AWB that can't hit a ball for his life and honestly, he's not even EPL material at this point. Nobody said we need 11 perfect players, I said that he's worse even than Leicester's reserve players, and he obviously is.
Do you know reason why Sir Alex convinced Scholes to made comeback out of his first retirement? The manuscript was written. And Sir Alex knew what he was doing. Brought back one of the best central midfield player in history. To win his and the club last.Can anyone dissect how the feck did we won the 20th title with mediocre midfield?
Besides reading like an awful WWE promo, this is also completely wrong.Do you know reason why Sir Alex convinced Scholes to made comeback out of his first retirement? The manuscript was written. And Sir Alex knew what he was doing. Brought back one of the best central midfield player in history. To win his and the club last.
Sir Alex won to win the last time before he retired. And retire and quit when you are on the highest. Not loosing legacy. And even a 80 % of Scholes and not a peak Scholes was enough to help United to win the league.
Most of time. Find the one with the biggest and highest good karma and luck. And you will find the reason. And that was Sir Alex and Scholes Then they would have a crew and great warriors and teammates surround them.
So do we! literally all our positions have £50 million players and we have multiple 20 goal/20 assist attackers. The cheek of yaThey have good cover all around the pitch, even without a missing striker.
We have AWB that can't hit a ball for his life and honestly, he's not even EPL material at this point. Nobody said we need 11 perfect players, I said that he's worse even than Leicester's reserve players, and he obviously is.
Yet we gave up next to nothing dangerous until the goal for 30 minutes, a man down
Well, Arteta might still out-last Ole. Fulfilling Corporate requirement is always important.Yeah but the board seem happy with Ole and he has a lot of support from important figures in the media which I know they listen to so I've accepted this fact that he is ok so long as we progress a bit and make top 4. He hasn't done a bad job that warrants replacing (2nd place finish) so technically yes we will have to compensate for his limitations with as much individual talent as possible
Think that will change this season. The board know that they have backed him with two things that no other manager at any other club has ever received and that’s money and time. Usually you get one or the other, but never both. Yet he’s received both, the board knows it, fans know it, pundits are starting to say it, and this is now or never for him.Yeah but the board seem happy with Ole and he has a lot of support from important figures in the media which I know they listen to so I've accepted this fact that he is ok so long as we progress a bit and make top 4. He hasn't done a bad job that warrants replacing (2nd place finish) so technically yes we will have to compensate for his limitations with as much individual talent as possible
Tchouameni in January. Would be perfect.We need a kante like player in midfield.. which maybe does not exist
I loved Scholes more than any other United player but he was more or less irrelevant to that last league title. He played 749 minutes in the Premier League in 2012/13 - fecking Anderson played more than that. The only players to feature less were Nani, Büttner, Fletcher, and Nick Powell. Anders Lindegaard played more than Scholes!And even a 80 % of Scholes and not a peak Scholes was enough to help United to win the league.
Yeah he had a nice resurgence of form coming out of retirement in the second half of 11/12, and deserved to win the league title that year if not for our calamitous meltdown starting with the Wigan away game. In 12/13 he was pretty much done and it was Carrick who carried that midfield week in week out.I loved Scholes more than any other United player but he was more or less irrelevant to that last league title. He played 749 minutes in the Premier League in 2012/13 - fecking Anderson played more than that. The only players to feature less were Nani, Büttner, Fletcher, and Nick Powell. Anders Lindegaard played more than Scholes!
He did manage to pick up 6 yellow cards in 8 games' worth of playing time though. Which is funny.
Carrick was unbelievable in 12/13. I'd go so far as to say he was even more instrumental in our league win than RvP.Yeah he had a nice resurgence of form coming out of retirement in the second half of 11/12, and deserved to win the league title that year if not for our calamitous meltdown starting with the Wigan away game. In 12/13 he was pretty much done and it was Carrick who carried that midfield week in week out.
Utd Chelsea number 8 comparisonUtd/Chelsea DM comparison
McTominay/Kante
Fred/Jorginho
Matic/Kovacic
Van de beek/Saul
Why?Its amazing Chelsea won the CL with the glaring hole of "no reliable goal scorers upfront" . Highest scorer was Werner with 12. Amazing City won the league with no CF or LB but alas, United have to have a perfect 11 to compete. You know why that is right?
AWB use to be a winger too, I don't understand it. But his crosses were getting better at the end of last season. I'm sure he is still working on it. I just don't understand why he takes so many touches, especially why he always comes infield.I would argue that a RB with some decent footballing ability is a much more pressing need than a DM.
I encourage everyone to focus on AWB during our matches and watch how:
- opposing teams create pressing traps and encourage our players to pass AWB the ball during our build-up
- opposing teams ignore him in the final third, overloading our left side and creating spacing issues (NBA fans know how important spacing is)
- even our own players ignore him and don't pass him the ball if avoidable
imagine someone even 70% as good as Shaw at RB. this would fundamentally transform our play.
We're one manager short of a great team. Basically, we have a great team but a mediocre manager, which makes us just good.I thought we were a RW short of a great team??
perhaps the fairest assessment I have seen on hereWe're one manager short of a great team. Basically, we have a great team but a mediocre manager, which makes us just good.
I love Ole but he's reallly probably not a great manager. He's good at identifying the type of players we need, I will give him that
I don't think he is tactically inept as he has overseen some great victories especially against top sides. We rarely ever get hammered and our games vs Liverpool, City, Chelsea, PSG are fairly even.We could have bought a decent and very much CDM if our manager would have offloaded some deadwood from our wage bill and sold Lingard. However reading now the OGS made it clear to David Moyes that Lingard was 'not for sale'.
I'm not quite sure if this club could ever challenge the current cream of the crop while we have this tactically inept manager with his overly sentimental jobs for the boys mentally.
He doesn't have to be tactically inept in every match but just enough to deny us winning a trophy.perhaps the fairest assessment I have seen on here
I don't think he is tactically inept as he has overseen some great victories especially against top sides. We rarely ever get hammered and our games vs Liverpool, City, Chelsea, PSG are fairly even.