Are we the worst run top/elite club in the world?

[SAFMUTD]

Commercially we are right in the top, United is one of the TOP brands in thw world.

But regarding titles achievements we are REALLY poor, Im not talking only about not winning thropies but we haven’t even been serious contenders for 6 years now.

We’ve been 7th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 2nd and now we’ll end probably between 5-6th. We are averaging 5th place for the last 6 years.


We have the third highest wage in Europe and don’t even have the 4th best squad in England. We have really fallen behind.

There are other top clubs that have fallen, like Inter and Milan but those clubs have economic problems to blame for their poor squads.

Can you think of anyother top club that is run worst than ours?

What do you think is wrong with the club specifically? Can we get back to the top in the short run? What would you change in the club?

 

[Raw]

I swear there's a thread somewhere with the exact same title.

But yes. We are run by people who only care about the profits. If we do make top 4, that'll be good enough for them. No ambition to succeed in footballing terms whatsoever, but it's okay, we got eleventy million sponsors.

 

[Samid]

Worst run organisation since Nokia.

 

[Carolina Red]

Runned?

 

[Hulksmash]

Get a DOF already, I prefer Edwin Van der Saar.

 

[red thru&thru]

We are the worst run club.

Let Ed continue with money and bring in EvS and Paul Mitchell to run the football.

 

[Web of Bissaka]

Nah, we're the best.

Got competitive people running the football club at the top who knows what they're doing.

 

[KingMinger22]

Yes, absolutely.

 

[Wumminator]

Is this the worst maded thread?

 

[K2K]

No..

But among the elite clubs? That's a more reasonable thread.

 

[wolvored]

We are one of the best run franchises out there. As a football club ..well...words fail me.

 

[K2K]

Is this the worst maded thread?

Tbf English is not everyone's first language on here.

 

[Raw]

I mean just think about all the big teams that have the ability to spend hundreds of millions every summer. Then look at us. There's something severely wrong at this club.

 

[Moriarty]

McDonalds are one of the top brands too. I wouldn't eat there though.

 

[AndyJ1985]

Probably not in the world. But if we're talking about tier 1 clubs then yes, we are the worst run club by some distance.

 

[PoTMS]

AC Milan run us close but we are just ahead.

 

[OldSchoolManc]

Yes.

 

[UnitedFan93]

Yes, we are the worst run club.

However don't blame the players, don't blame the manager, don't even blame Woodward. Blame the Glazers, they are ultimately responsible for every appointment made at the club. They are also responsible for keeping that Clown (Woodward) in charge of running the club. Until the fans wake up and realise that it is Glazers that are destroying this club we are going nowhere, in fact we are sinking fast!

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

It has been quite obvious for a long time. Second highest wage bill in world football, struggle to make top four in the PL. The owners need to invest more money and it has to be invested much much better than in the past.

 

[Chairman Steve]

At the moment in a pool of our continental and domestic peers of a similar level, we unequivocally are. We’re ran as a business and not as a competitive football club.

Marketability probably factors into a lot of our signings more than it should. We change philosophy at a frequency as changing underwear. We reward mediocrity. We shove square pegs in round holes constantly and never address them like not having an actual winger for years and using aging wingers as full backs for years.

We have an antiquated system where the manager is responsible for literally everything and there’s no structure in place above him to manage it. Every time we sack a manager we’re back to square one since we seemingly have to make the new manager different to the previous one, so LVGs possession orientated players are now fecking useless in Jose’s conservative, brute strength counter attacking approach.

 

[SirAF]

Runned?

 

[FreakyJim]

Runned DMC

 

[izec]

yes.

close thread.

 

[redshaw]

1000%

 

[Stretfordender]

Yes without a doubt, until we get rid of the Glazers we won’t be dining at the top table of European football. The Glazers are solely businessmen and whilst the pounds are rolling in they won’t care about the success of the club. Get used to it!!

 

[ErranMorad]

Yes, we are undoubtedly the worst run top football club in Europe. Our squad is extremely poor for the amount money spent on transfers and wages.

PS: @SAFMUTD you have the option to edit the thread title on the right side of the OP. Change 'runned' to 'run'.

 

[iluvoursolskjær]

we're more of a shop nowadays, than a historical and elite football club.

 

[wolvored]

It certainly looks that way. We make the most money as there are some naive fans out there, yet have the poorest football team on show for a big club.

 

[Roboc7]

Without a doubt, we are a total mess and stupid enough to think it can be fixed quickly. Until someone is prepared to accept we are shit, start again and recognise it will take 2-3 years to sort out we are doomed.

 

[Yagami]

Look back to our Europa league final. Then look at how Ajax are playing and how we play. It shows you that we've let our football take a back seat to other stuff, and it, quite frankly, sucks.

 

[Kush]

Of the big clubs, we are worst run by far. We have absolutely no identity as a club anymore, neither with the recruitment/squad nor with the football.

It’s going to take wholesale changes from top to bottom to remedy this, no manager is going to fix it on his own.

 

[RedDevilRoshi]

Yes and I doubt it’s going to change with the current regime (Glazers & Woodward) still at the helm.

We are rotten to the core.

 

[Raw]

Seriously, how many people above Ole in the hierarchy are actually footballing people interested in the way we play? And how many of them actually have the power to do anything about it?

That's what's wrong with this club.

 

[PoTMS]

This result isn't going to change anything either. We are Liverpool 2.0 now. Tonight's starting lineup also reinforces my impression that no one at this club has a clue either. Jesus Christ, Ashley Young v Lionel Messi in a UCL QF. How can we let it get to this stage?!

 

[SAFMUTD]

Yes, we are undoubtedly the worst run top football club in Europe. Our squad is extremely poor for the amount money spent on transfers and wages.

PS: @SAFMUTD you have the option to edit the thread title on the right side of the OP. Change 'runned' to 'run'.

Done, thanks man. English is not my first language sorry for that one

 

[UnitedFan93]

Yes without a doubt, until we get rid of the Glazers we won’t be dining at the top table of European football. The Glazers are solely businessmen and whilst the pounds are rolling in they won’t care about the success of the club. Get used to it!!

Spot on.

These past 6 years, we have blamed the players, the managers, Woodward but what about the Glazers? They have ultimate responsibility over every appointment at the club and every sacking. At the minute the club is a complete and utter shambles and it is them running it!

Until the Glazers go, we are going nowhere. In fact I don't think we will win another major trophy under them ever again. They are after financial and not sporting success. That is the issue!

 

[MoskvaRed]

Everything about the club reeks of decay and inertia. Not just the playing squad but the creaking stadium which has not bern upgraded for over 15 years, the Stone Roses songs from 1989, the manager in the shadow of the “gaffer“...

It can be transformed with the right direction from the top (Liverpool were in a similar boat not too long ago) but I don’t see much chance of meaningful change under the current regime.

 

[SAFMUTD]

I can’t get out of my head Woodward’s statement to the shareholders "Playing performance doesn't really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business."

That resumes it all, we are a brand not a football team.

Owned by Americans in order to produce profits not to win titles. We can see the same happening in the richest American teams, the New York Knicks, the Dallas Cowboys and the New York Yankees all face the same problems that us. Poorly run in the sport area but great on the commercial side.

Since this is a company which goal is to get the best return on investment the goal is to get top 4. Thats it, we are not investing anymore to challenge for titles just enough to still be near the spotlight and keep attracting fans.

 

[Amadaeus]

It has been quite obvious for a long time. Second highest wage bill in world football, struggle to make top four in the PL. The owners need to invest more money and it has to be invested much much better than in the past.

That part is a bit embarrassing for United. Second highest wage bill in football and we have fans that complains about the quality of our squad. However, It is not only that we are a poorly run team, but the manager we appoint don’t promote the right footballing philosophy. Our team is much better than the Ajax side and they would have put in better performances than these lots today. As other mentioned we need a DoF and a progressive manager. Mitchell and Pochettino would have solved this problem this summer.

 

[Varunie1208]

From a football perspective, we are absolutely the worst. From a commercial stand point we are really good. Welcome to Glazer world. How is it that we still don't have a DOF. The storyline during Mou was that he was against it, now that he's gone Woodward still making the decisions. I have a sinking feeling this summer will be as uneventful as last summer. lots of rumors, but nothing impactful gets over the line.