Let it go you small time fecks
Barcelona to sue Neymar over move to Paris St-Germain
- Thread starter Sunny Jim
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Let it go you small time fecks
Can someone explain the legal basis?
I'd love to see Messi in the Prem, even if he plays for a rival club.
Would be tons more interesting than Neymar take the piss out of players far beneath him too.
I know that.. Didn't realise he was in his last year. Do Barca have an option to extend? if not, how did they let it get to this stage? Madness.
Because Messi wants it like that.
Well if he got the money to honor his contract they are in their right to sue him. If he just got it to sign a new one they won't see feck all of the money. No idea what the big fuss is about.
I really don't understand all the hate toward Barca on this.
If we had a player sign a new contract with a massive signing bonus only to take the money and sign for another club a few months later we'd be seriously peeved too.
Neymar and his father are in it for the money but if you keep screwing over employers they will eventually fight back with legal means.
If we had a player sign a new contract with a massive signing bonus only to take the money and sign for another club a few months later we'd be seriously peeved too.
Neymar and his father are in it for the money but if you keep screwing over employers they will eventually fight back with legal means.
Barca, PSG and Neymar are all cnuts to an equal degree.
Well, a bit stupid on barcas side if they paid loyalty or retention bonuses upfront, without clauses in the contract to protect them over a "loyal or retention" period. You don't get sympathy for incompetence imo. And if Neymar didn't break his contract, what can you do.
But that's a big if, as I don't know the full story.
This. They paid the dad 23m for a new deal and he buys it out in 8 months? Any club would be pissed but because everyone on here hates Barca, they're too blinded to see that.
Do they need money to sign players? 
Guys, this goes deeper than that.
What Barcelona did with Ney, we do it with all our stars, in Messi's case (a contract yet to sign) it would take a huge upfront payment (maybe +40M?) to balance his wages to our wage limits, that means with a 300M release clause (in the contract he almost signed already) he gets a huge upfront payment and he doesn't need to stay at the club to collect a big part of a long contract, now come next summer I think plenty of teams could reach those 300M (United, City, Real and maybe even Chelsea, Milan and PSG, who knows) and Messi would get another sign bonus with them.
This opens the door to huge paydays if you're a Barcelona star player that gets gifted a big % of your total wages right as you sign it. This doesn't only work with Messi, Pique, Busquets, Suarez and every player that joined us in the future would be getting the same kind of payments, so this basically destroys one of the management pillars of this board
No one comes out of this with any respect.
I don't know if such a situation could even happen at Utd (lack of release clause means we can always reject?), but for some reason I have confidence that under EdWood Woodward this sort of thing wouldn't happen. All that to say the Barca board seem strikingly incompetent at the moment and it makes me all the more grateful for the Woodman.
I don't know if such a situation could even happen at Utd (lack of release clause means we can always reject?), but for some reason I have confidence that under EdWood Woodward this sort of thing wouldn't happen. All that to say the Barca board seem strikingly incompetent at the moment and it makes me all the more grateful for the Woodman.
So Barca pay the guy a signing on bonus, 8 months later he sods off to PSG. Barca are looking to recoup that bonus plus damages and interest. Both parties must have been privy to the content of the contract so Barca must have accepted the possibililty of the release clause being met. Can only conclude that unless Barca are completely stupid the bonus will be linked to being loyal to the contract and that if Neymar leaves then there's a clause that stipulates the bonus should be returned.
Not sure how 'damages' should come into it.
Not sure how 'damages' should come into it.
Barcelona have absolutely humiliated themselves this summer
Remember Real used to be the circus club
Xavi and Co made them looked well run. They're terrible in transfer and now that the talent from the academy isn't producing non-stop world beaters, their shit is being exposed.
This is beautiful.
Thanks for that explanation. Nonetheless, their strategy has after all been exploited by Neymar's team which is what I suspected. That's why Barca are fuming. I guess you could say Neymar broke a good faith agreement which is bad practise and it screwed Barca. But..hey-ho.This is not a move by Neymar team, this has been done with all our important players to accommodate wages
The problem is, this was bound to happen and basically Neymar was the best bet to reach this situation, I'm not specially savvy financially and yet...
It's not the same board though, the previous one with Laporta was more sensible.
Talk about butthurt & salty
They still made shit transfers and the only reason it didn't cost them was due to how good their starting 11 was at that time.
Barca need to let it go. They are better than this. They still have the best player to have ever kicked a ball at their disposal as well as arguably the greatest striker in the world. The board is not doing a good job at saving themselves from even more humility.
Did you go out with his ex too?
I don't really follow you, are you saying that Barcelona were particularly bad at transfer and got saved by academy players they didn't purchase?
And this starting eleven was mainly purchased: Valdes-Oleguer-Marquez-Puyol-Van Bronkhorst-Edmilson-Deco-Van Bommel-Giuly-Ronaldinho-Eto'o.
People have little sympathy for Barca because they have been doing this to other clubs best players for years, they're trying to do it now with Coutinho.
They get their own players to tap em up personally, put media pressure on (look back to Fabregas at Arsenal, Suarez at Liverpool) and eventually force the situation to get their man.
Seems they genuinely can't handle a taste of their own medicine. They should just let it go, they have £200mil to play with, they're just going to have to invest heavily.
Can they win?
If so, go for it.
If so, go for it.
Pissed maybe, go to court over what looks like naivety? Doubt it.
They shove the "more than a club" crap down everyone's throats which (understandably) other fans don't like? Then they lose one of their top players and cry like babies, conveniently forgetting how they bought Neymar in the first place .... cough (huge/dodgy payments to Dad?) cough.
The media bought into the no sponsor/tika taka/best team ever crap and put them on a pedestal. Human nature says the moment they fell, people would pile on.... well they're falling now and I imagine a lot of people (and not just Real fans) are going to enjoy it.
They were idiots to set a £200 million pounds buyout clause in the contract. Even after paying him that kind of money as the signing on bonus.
There is no point going to court for this because this is only going to bring out all the other skeletons they have safety hidden in their closet. I am fully expecting a counter case and a can of worms being opened.
Throwing their toys out their pram because they can't get their own way anymore.
Yes and the bonus was advanced to him
The bonuses that he would be eligible for the duration of the contract or just for renewing?
It was considered a loyalty bonus, I'm not sure of the exact terminology but it was tied to staying until 2021 - this is what the board want rescinded
Neymar plays Barcelona like a Stradivarius.
Ahh, you guys are in the right here then. That's akin to stealing by Neymar if he isn't returning the money.
So why don't we have a loyalty bonus paid in.... 2021?
Plus, apparently Neymar signed a pre-contract with PSG in June and didn't rescind his contract his contract with Barcelona until early August to try & trigger another 26 million bonus to his Dad
Neymar was in Barcelona today and Messi posted a pic, trolling Pique volvio!
You're talking way too much sense to be in this forum - leave and bring back the newbie forum until you talk more BS. But no doubt FC Barca will put you right in all of those points made as the more and more I read on the matter Barca are right to sue a player for agreeing and wanting to go to a club that matched his buy-out clause (and let's not bring up the discussion about the farce of the spanish FA for trying to refuse the money or anything like that).
But annoyingly, and I mean this as I really like Barca, Real Madrid are coming out as the better club at the moment with CL wins / Champions and not losing their star players. Would much rather this had happened to Real and them