So here he sidesteps the elephant in the room. Couldn't city and PSG use his own quote against him?
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Create a plastic league to protest against "oil clubs"? You lose all credibility.
Not as a protest, just as a way to close the gap financially with clubs who have unlimited oil money
They come across as if they're owners just got the ball rolling with a small "leg up" and that the rest was organic growth. Their first league title took about £1 billion. The season before their takeover they got spanked 8-0 by 'boro in the last game of the season.
8-1 actually
Elano scored a cracker when we were 7-0 down. Best goal of the game by far.It's curious that many of you guys think La Liga is the responsible for Real Madrid & Barcelona's reigns last years. Are you aware their TV incomes were even lower than biggest british team ones? According to your point, there was no chance At. Madrid or Sevilla had a decent performance in Europe, and you can compare their last results to Manchester United/City/Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool with 4 or 5 times higher incomes...
In the history of the sport we love, rich clubs have never existed. It's really a new phenomenon. Moreover, we all know an expensive player is always excellent and that a team comprised of 11 superstars always win everything.Good post. Pretty much sums up some of the sentiment on here.I have to be honest: I hate the "plastic clubs" and the "nothing clubs" because I prefer "real clubs" with a long history like United founded in 1878. I particularly hate new clubs established in new plastic cities (Paris) that have discovered football in 2011 or recently founded ones like City in 1880.
Let's be clear, we need to save the "real clubs" for many reasons, the main one is they deserve and should be guaranteed to win the same trophies ad vitam ad aeternam. I don't have the time to explain my views but I also think Barcelona and Bayern should be automatically qualified for the semi-finals of the champions league.
Indeed, City and PSG have become a global threat for world football since they were acquired by Arabs >>> they won 0 champions league >>> Consequently, they are about to win 15 champions league in a row in the short run. France won 2 trophies at the European level: the Champions League in 93 (Marseille) and the Cup of Cup in 1996 (Paris). France ruling Europe has become a new reality: the 1st time since Napoleon.
I don't know if it's because I live outside Europe but it doesn't make sense to have a super club in France. Please don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Foreign investors, especially American ones. I just mean it's weird to see PSG in a position to acquire more than 500 players a year!!! A new reality is the upcoming scarcity of players for clubs like Real Madrid who are not attractive to buy or produce the best local talents.
I hate "financial doping": in real life, it's impossible to see shareholders/business men/private companies investing money to develop a business
Another issue is that inflation is a new phenomenon: the players used to be cheap and very stable over a long period of time.
We live in a dangerous world and it's important nowadays to have a minimum of certainty: we need stability.
The Past - Champions League Winners
2013 - Bayern Munchen
2014 - Real Madrid
2015 - Barcelona
2016 - Real Madrid
My Dream future
2017 - Bayern Munchen
2018 - Barcelona
2019 - Real Madrid
2020 - Manchester United
2021 - Barcelona
2022 - Bayern Munchen
2023 - Barcelona
2024 - Manchester United
2025 - Bayern Munchen
2026 - Real Madrid
2027- Real Madrid
I have nothing against City or PSG: I just think they deserved to be banned from the Champions League for 5-6 years so that they will become once again inoffensive plastic clubs as it did before.
Please be careful, I also want more competition and have new ideas. I think the real clubs should have the right to present a 2nd team at the highest level. Imagine the following QF of the Champions League. I would pay to see these new games.
QF 1 - Real Madrid A Vs Barcelona B
QF 2 - Atletico Vs Bayern
QF 3 - United Vs Barcelona A
QF 4 - Real Madrid B Vs Juventus
My suggestion is the plastic clubs create their own plastic league, and the winner has the right to play a friendly at the end of the season against a real team that plays in real life.
NBA is very inspiring: why don't we implement a salary cap? We don't see small clubs, so let's put an end to the old-fashioned relegation battles.
My 2 cents
Finally! He emotes!I have to be honest: I hate the "plastic clubs" and the "nothing clubs" because I prefer "real clubs" with a long history like United founded in 1878. I particularly hate new clubs established in new plastic cities (Paris) that have discovered football in 2011 or recently founded ones like City in 1880.
Let's be clear, we need to save the "real clubs" for many reasons, the main one is they deserve and should be guaranteed to win the same trophies ad vitam ad aeternam. I don't have the time to explain my views but I also think Barcelona and Bayern should be automatically qualified for the semi-finals of the champions league.
Indeed, City and PSG have become a global threat for world football since they were acquired by Arabs >>> they won 0 champions league >>> Consequently, they are about to win 15 champions league in a row in the short run. France won 2 trophies at the European level: the Champions League in 93 (Marseille) and the Cup of Cup in 1996 (Paris). France ruling Europe has become a new reality: the 1st time since Napoleon.
I don't know if it's because I live outside Europe but it doesn't make sense to have a super club in France. Please don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Foreign investors, especially American ones. I just mean it's weird to see PSG in a position to acquire more than 500 players a year!!! A new reality is the upcoming scarcity of players for clubs like Real Madrid who are not attractive to buy or produce the best local talents.
I hate "financial doping": in real life, it's impossible to see shareholders/business men/private companies investing money to develop a business
Another issue is that inflation is a new phenomenon: the players used to be cheap and very stable over a long period of time.
We live in a dangerous world and it's important nowadays to have a minimum of certainty: we need stability.
The Past - Champions League Winners
2013 - Bayern Munchen
2014 - Real Madrid
2015 - Barcelona
2016 - Real Madrid
2017 - Real Madrid
My Dream future
2018 - Bayern Munchen
2019 - Barcelona
2020 - Real Madrid
2021 - United
2022 - Bayern Munchen
2023 - Barcelona
2024 - Manchester United
2025 - Bayern Munchen
2026 - Real Madrid
2027- Real Madrid
I have nothing against City or PSG: I just think they deserved to be banned from the Champions League for 5-6 years so that they will become once again inoffensive plastic clubs as it did before.
Please be careful, I also want more competition and have new ideas. I think the real clubs should have the right to present a 2nd team at the highest level. Imagine the following QF of the Champions League. I would pay to see these new games.
QF 1 - Real Madrid A Vs Barcelona B
QF 2 - Atletico Vs Bayern
QF 3 - United Vs Barcelona A
QF 4 - Real Madrid B Vs Juventus
My suggestion is the plastic clubs create their own plastic league, and the winner has the right to play a friendly at the end of the season against a real team that plays in real life.
NBA is very inspiring: why don't we implement a salary cap? We don't see small clubs, so let's put an end to the old-fashioned relegation battles.
My 2 cents
I truly hope this never happens. I have completely lost interest in the champions league since United haven't qualified. Seeing the same teams draw each other over and over again has been incredibly dull. I feel like the last 5 years of the Champions Leage has pretty much been the same in the knockout stage.
Sevilla perform better in the Europa League because it's worth more money for them to do so. Finishing in the top 10 in the Premier League is worth far more to English clubs than reaching the knockout rounds in the Europa. That is why it isn't taken seriously by most English clubs.
With CL on offer to the winner of Europa this is no longer a valid excuse for English clubs to not take the competition seriously and tbf Liverpool, United and Tottenham have all respected the competition the last couple of years with us winning it last year and Liverpool finishing runners up the year before.
Yes, they have, but let's not act like its a level playing field in Spain. At least in England, teams like fecking Watford make enough off the overly fair TV deal to basically have the decision not to sell their players or they can charge a premium and stay way out of the red. Clubs are Spain are basically on their ass because it's designed to make sure Barca and Real stay on top. Atletico and Sevilla have done remarkably well to be successful this past 5+ years. They are defying the odds. Barca and Real will always attract superstars but when the climate is that the rest of the teams have to sell to England or Real and Barca and lose their coaches then you can see our point.
The past five years Spain have won three and England two. Like you say I think we will see more English clubs looking to win it now.
Wouldn't be surprised if you see English and Spanish clubs monopolizing the final stages of the KO moving forward.
Yes but this has only happened in the last two years because the top 4 is now so competitive, two bigs clubs are missing out each year. Before that the likes of Swansea, Everton and Southampton were qualifying. They don't have the squads to juggle between both competitions so the league always wins. Even then most clubs league form dipped.
100%. In fact the trickle down affect has hurt the overall landscape since basically everyone outside of 4-5 clubs are at the mercy of the oil clubs.
I'd love to see City and PSG team up against him
they seriously should, who does he think is to be barking orders to UEFA to punish other teams? Threatening to go to Brussels if he is not listened to what a silly little man, he's clearly someone in life who is not use to hearing the word 'no'.A court order or two against him for slander would do him a lot of good. A Le Pen admirer like him can't stand being humiliated by some cheiks.I'd love to see City and PSG team up against him
Since when has over a decade been able to qualify as recent?
To be fair that probably wasn't Barca's choice, it was likely a compromise with Neymar. Also I'm not sure if the release clause is due to the choice of the football authorities or Spanish law? At any rate given how entrenched it is in Spanish football I doubt it's realistic that it would be abrogated.
I think it's actually the latter. My nuanced understanding of Spain is that they like to regulate out the ass.
Would I like to see United dominate the PL like Juve in Serie A or Bayern in Bundesliga? Of course!!
I'm guessing you know the answer already but probably because they don't expect them to. They'd sooner we watched it at home paying through the nose for our subscription to Sky/BT/whoever. UEFA don't give a flying one about match-going fans and increasingly worryingly it seems the clubs don't either, given that match-day revenue makes up a lesser percentage of the overall revenue of the clubs these days. If there was a bumper offer made to form a European super league on the table which earned clubs double in TV and prize money that the current UEFA competitions offer, and it took the form of the same clubs playing each other 4 or 6 times a season, with even more games played than teams play in the CL and EL, how many clubs would turn it down on the principle that it screws their match-going fans over?
The official line is that it's more geared to stop clubs getting into financial difficulties than stopping investment (if it was just about the latter then UEFA wouldn't have relaxed the rules in 2015 regarding new investors of clubs), and on that score it has worked to a certain extent. Overall losses amongst clubs in Europe are well down since before FFP came in.
Don't think Qatar and UAE are gonna side up anytime soon to be honest!I'd love to see City and PSG team up against him
