Benjamin Sesko | Despite Raees best efforts he’s joining Liepzig. Damn you Raees

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Sesko and Antony before the end of the window would lessen the blow of no no.6/holding mid being signed
 

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We said before the window opened that we need 6 players minimum. If Ronaldo goes then this guy is a must, even if it means the Glazers opening the precious piggy bank and letting us spend some of our own money.
 

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Name you’re looking for is the Balkans, easy mistake. In any case, I have 100% faith in Tier 1 Balkan GFs :wenger:

Edit: Neither Slovenia nor Slovakia are part of the Balkans either, so I guess we’re both daft:lol:
Without derailing the thread, of course it’s part of the Balkans.
 

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Is the price tag actually only £25m? If so this is a no brainer, whether we loan him back or not.
You would assume so, but reports are suggesting Salzburg are reluctant to sell and I think it's because they already sold Adeyemi in this window. So, they don't want to lose another striker.
 

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I like the look of this guy, clearly got a lot of potential.

I'm no stat freak, but a couple of interesting stats via sofascore from last season in the bundesliga:

Scored 5 goals from 8 starts and 16 sub appearances, 1 goal every 194 mins. That's pretty decent for a very young player.

Missed 14(!) big chances. Wow. I guess he gets himself into good positions but that is a lot of poor finishes.

Small sample size, eye test, young player, all the usual caveats acknowledged of course.
Ayedemi who went to Dortmund for only 30 Mio € this summer scored every 100th minute.
A goal every 194 mins is actually really poor.
Salzburg is dominating that league more than Bayern or PSG do.
Scoring every 3rd to 4th game against the likes of Hartberg and Wattens is nothing to be proud of.

I'm not against signing him but I hope they don't break the bank, just because of desperation. As a future investment OK, but no chance he'll play at top PL level this coming season.
 

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Too expensive for a young prospect with a mediocre goal scoring record looking at his stats. I don't think there's anything in this one.

He might be a good option as a backup for Rashford on the left maybe but the price would need to be sensible.
 

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Ayedemi who went to Dortmund for only 30 Mio € this summer scored every 100th minute.
A goal every 194 mins is actually really poor.
Salzburg is dominating that league more than Bayern or PSG do.
Scoring every 3rd to 4th game against the likes of Hartberg and Wattens is nothing to be proud of.

I'm not against signing him but I hope they don't break the bank, just because of desperation. As a future investment OK, but no chance he'll play at top PL level this coming season.
Adeyemi is further ahead in his development and that's why his stats seem better. Sesko only turned 19 this May so those stats for what would have been an 18-year old doesn't look too bad.

We are basing this transfer on his potential though. He genuinely looks a good talent and looks like you have to pay through the roof for talent these days. Bayern just spent circa 30m on an 17-year old talent. Just shows the crazy market.
 

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Ayedemi who went to Dortmund for only 30 Mio € this summer scored every 100th minute.
A goal every 194 mins is actually really poor.
Salzburg is dominating that league more than Bayern or PSG do.
Scoring every 3rd to 4th game against the likes of Hartberg and Wattens is nothing to be proud of.

I'm not against signing him but I hope they don't break the bank, just because of desperation. As a future investment OK, but no chance he'll play at top PL level this coming season.
Firstly, a goal every 2 full games is not a poor record.

Second, he was 18 years old.

Greenwood's last full season averaged a goal every 260 minutes for reference.
 

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Without derailing the thread, of course it’s part of the Balkans.
Not entirely correct. None of Slovakia and only 25% of Slovenia is part of the Balkans geographically. The divider is apparently the Sava river, and Radeče where Šeško is from is right on the river bank. Where in the country @Woziak s girlfriend is from I have no idea. Not that it particularly matters to the topic of the thread.

In any case he looks a proper talented baller. Would be interested to see how he develops as a goal scorer, but he seems to have all the ingredients as well as the hunger to make something of himself. Ready for United? No one knows until it’s been tried.
 

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Firstly, a goal every 2 full games is not a poor record.

Second, he was 18 years old.

Greenwood's last full season averaged a goal every 260 minutes for reference.
Comparing the PL to the Austrian League, nice reference :)

Like I said, he's got talent and I'd like us to sign+loan him at a reasonable price.
However,
- scoring 5 goals for Salzburg is not a big achievement, even for a young talent. Kristensen scored 7 as a fullback...
- he's not PL ready, so to sign him for this season because of Ronnies antics would be a mistake
 

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Too expensive for a young prospect with a mediocre goal scoring record looking at his stats. I don't think there's anything in this one.

He might be a good option as a backup for Rashford on the left maybe but the price would need to be sensible.
Strong, fast, agile Ibra style, good dribbling and finishing, explosive.

You‘re right, do not want. Absolute crap.
 

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Too expensive for a young prospect with a mediocre goal scoring record looking at his stats. I don't think there's anything in this one.

He might be a good option as a backup for Rashford on the left maybe but the price would need to be sensible.
What kind of stats were you expecting for a kid who was 18 years old just 2 months ago?
 

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Comparing the PL to the Austrian League, nice reference :)

Like I said, he's got talent and I'd like us to sign+loan him at a reasonable price.
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- scoring 5 goals for Salzburg is not a big achievement, even for a young talent. Kristensen scored 7 as a fullback...
- he's not PL ready, so to sign him for this season because of Ronnies antics would be a mistake
I didn't compare the leagues at all, I compared the goals per minute to show that we still highly rated Greenwood while he record was closer to 1 in 3 than Sesko's 1 in 2 at a younger age.

We've been linked with a striker regardless of whether Ronaldo stays or goes so we wouldn't be kneejerk signing him for that reason. If he's been highlighted as a player to sign that will improve us in the future and the manager agrees then it's a good move. If he went elsewhere for two years and cost us £75m in 2024 people would be slating the club for not signing him now.
 

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What kind of stats were you expecting for a kid who was 18 years old just 2 months ago?
Maybe he was expecting a Haaland seeing as how this guy has been labeled as the next Haaland in some circles.
 

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Maybe he was expecting a Haaland seeing as how this guy has been labeled as the next Haaland in some circles.
At the age of 18

Mbappe played 11 league appearances scoring 1 goal.

Haaland scored 12 goals in the Norwegian league.

Looking at Sesko’s stats in so much detail is just pointless. All you can look at is his potential and what he has shown in matches so far. His numbers are good for a kid.
 

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At the age of 18

Mbappe played 11 league appearances scoring 1 goal.

Haaland scored 12 goals in the Norwegian league.

Looking at Sesko’s stats in so much detail is just pointless. All you can look at is his potential and what he has shown in matches so far. His numbers are good for a kid.
Yup I know. I've said as much in this thread that we are basing it on his potential and his stats for an 18-year old weren't too bad.
 

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At the age of 18

Mbappe played 11 league appearances scoring 1 goal.

Haaland scored 12 goals in the Norwegian league.

Looking at Sesko’s stats in so much detail is just pointless. All you can look at is his potential and what he has shown in matches so far. His numbers are good for a kid.
Bojan Krkic had 12 goals in 48 La Liga appearances for Barca before the age of 18.
 

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At the age of 18

Mbappe played 11 league appearances scoring 1 goal.

Haaland scored 12 goals in the Norwegian league.

Looking at Sesko’s stats in so much detail is just pointless. All you can look at is his potential and what he has shown in matches so far. His numbers are good for a kid.
Wasn’t mbappe 18 in the season he made it to the CL semis with Monaco (winning the league) and scoring against the likes of City and a Juventus defence that didn’t concede the entire KO rounds? He was certainly more proven than Sesko now although I agree with your general point.
 

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I know people are so desperate to sign a forward. But signing this guy won't help us this season . Kid is just 18 and is for future.

I would take a less expensive option who can stay as a backup and can come in when required. Ronaldo isn't going anywhere and we already have Martial.
 

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Comparing the PL to the Austrian League, nice reference :)

Like I said, he's got talent and I'd like us to sign+loan him at a reasonable price.
However,
- scoring 5 goals for Salzburg is not a big achievement, even for a young talent. Kristensen scored 7 as a fullback...
- he's not PL ready, so to sign him for this season because of Ronnies antics would be a mistake
Then we blood him in and make him PL ready instead of having to buy him for 100m in 2 years time. I would think that that's the whole point of a rebuilding project.

I know people are so desperate to sign a forward. But signing this guy won't help us this season . Kid is just 18 and is for future.

I would take a less expensive option who can stay as a backup and can come in when required. Ronaldo isn't going anywhere and we already have Martial.
I'd be rid of Ronaldo tbh. Surely we're not expecting to win the Prem this season? A couple of younger players who can be bedded in and developed over the next few years would be ideal.
 

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This guy has been right about almost everything and I've been following him for almost 2 years now. If we sign Sesko, expect good things.
 

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Feck dudes. The Baltic GF says he's good enough. Have some respect.
Serves you right for trying to make a lighthearted joke, next time do your research and make sure your joke is factually correct, cause the caf is having none of these, inaccurate geographical jokes
 

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Wasn’t mbappe 18 in the season he made it to the CL semis with Monaco (winning the league) and scoring against the likes of City and a Juventus defence that didn’t concede the entire KO rounds? He was certainly more proven than Sesko now although I agree with your general point.
17 I think.
 

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Yeah , I'm on the hype train now!
(Haven't actually watched a single game of his besides the pool friendly)
 

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This guy has been right about almost everything and I've been following him for almost 2 years now. If we sign Sesko, expect good things.
That account is shite what do you mean :lol: Nothing necessarily to do with Sesko, but I see his tweets randomly pop up and he just pretends to know everything about everyone and is 100% sure on whatever he says and doesn't give the slightest wiggle room for something to not pan out. Kind of annoying tbh.
 

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Then we blood him in and make him PL ready instead of having to buy him for 100m in 2 years time. I would think that that's the whole point of a rebuilding project.



I'd be rid of Ronaldo tbh. Surely we're not expecting to win the Prem this season? A couple of younger players who can be bedded in and developed over the next few years would be ideal.
I'm all for that. Love projects like these, that's why I hoped we went for Adeyemi or Bellingham before they went to BVB only to be 100m+ players a year later.

Never said we shouldn't buy him. I only stated that a goal every 200 mins isn't a reason to buy him, 'cause there are some really shitty players that can score 5 goals in that league.
It's a far too small sample size anyway.

for the Greenwood comparison: that record was poor as well, we didn't like his potential because of that record.
We saw what he could become.
 

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Ducker piece says we are interested too but won’t pay £55m

Don’t know much about him but usually when United refuse to pay X amount for a young player, they’re usually worth 3x as much in a couple of years
 
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