Teams facing Pool and City will get blue cards when they are leading or drawing against them to give the upper hand to City and Pool
Blue Cards to be introduced which will send players to the Sin Bin
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So in 3 or 4 seasons they'll be reviewing the blue card as the fans don't like it?
Honestly never wanted VAR, don't want blue cards. All I crave are consistent & competent Refs. Let the game flow. No flag = goal and go crazy celebrating. So over the endless delays when scoring a goal, it's just wrong.
Honestly never wanted VAR, don't want blue cards. All I crave are consistent & competent Refs. Let the game flow. No flag = goal and go crazy celebrating. So over the endless delays when scoring a goal, it's just wrong.
I’d love to see a transcript of the conversation where they decided on blue instead of orange.
That the motivation for this silly idea is extremely focused on tactical fouls preventing counter attacks. This is not a major problem in the game that would warrant such a rule change, the yellow card works fine
If the back pass rule came in nowadays everyone would bitch and moan about it. But its the best rule to ever be introduced to the sport.
I don't mind the idea of a sin bin, the only worry is its implementation and the fact that these should be yellow card offences already, which would be enough of a deterrent if applied every time a cynical foul is committed.
I don't mind the idea of a sin bin, the only worry is its implementation and the fact that these should be yellow card offences already, which would be enough of a deterrent if applied every time a cynical foul is committed.
Why on earth do you think a few (well, two, to be precise) people on redcafe pointing out that this will help stop cheats spoiling counter-attacks is confirmation that the football authorities are introducing this with that specific tactic in mind?!It’s about reducing cheating. That’s it. Less cheating is always a good thing. And it’s helping enforce rules that are already part of the fan. The introduction of the new no backpass rule really was intended to fundamentally change the way the game is played. The two things aren’t remotely comparable.
I can’t help but think your weird take here is influenced by your worship of Pep and the fact his teams so regularly employ the type of cheating this is intended to help stamp out.
They don't book either of these discretions at the minute unless you play for united anyway so why bother.
Fernadinho made a career out of not getting booked for tactical fouls
Fernadinho made a career out of not getting booked for tactical fouls
This is how I see it.
Consistency in these things is also impossible too. A ref gives a foul and the player says "Oh come on ref, I hardly touched him". Some refs will be giving blue cards for that and some won't,, and anybody that thinks that won't be the case is deluded.
You also know for a fact that in the first couple of months there would be blue cards galore and then they will stop giving them as much when the novelty wears off.
Why are we still talking about this when Fifa have come out and said it’s bollocks?!??
The yellow card doesn't work fine because the refs don't use it as per the rules.
Probably just because from the stands yellow and orange are hard to distinguish?
Color blindness.
The sin bin or as it’s termed in the FA rules is a temporary dismissal has been in non league football at step 7 , which is County Premier league football for a couple of years and believe it or not it has bought about a significant change in terms of discipline and cynical fouls.
I don’t like comparing sports like Rugby with football but by and large the referee’s in Rugby do get more respect. Of course there are rules in football that if fully enforced would bring about far more self discipline from the players
I don’t like comparing sports like Rugby with football but by and large the referee’s in Rugby do get more respect. Of course there are rules in football that if fully enforced would bring about far more self discipline from the players
The game is unironically gone. They need to get rid of all VAR leaving the offside and goal line technology and stop feckING WITH THE GAME!
They should have made it a pink card. No one wants to be binned for a pink card
It's a bit weird to add an extra layer when VAR is not even working.
Also - like VAR - it just fecks with a game that to a large extend has worked just fine for 160 years.
Edit: Oh FIFA has clarified that it's not planning to implement it as of now.
Also - like VAR - it just fecks with a game that to a large extend has worked just fine for 160 years.
Edit: Oh FIFA has clarified that it's not planning to implement it as of now.
Honestly I think this is just going to cause more drama. Was it cynical, was it accidental, was it dissent?
Just throwing fuel on the fire they can’t even put out currently.
Just throwing fuel on the fire they can’t even put out currently.
I agree. But that is what yellow cards are for. You can do it once, and not again or you are off. As has been said before, the rules are fine, referees need to enact them consistently.
It's a brilliant idea to reduce the abuse and swearing the referees have to put up with - however there has to be consistency amongst the referees towards across the board in each match, but also to the players (we all know some superstar players get favourable treatment over others)
Other than the horror of the idiot phrase "Sin Bin", I think that's a pretty good idea, well worth trying. It'll have much less impact than in hockey or Basketball, but it will matter. Will put even more pressure on the refs though. Not sure I like the inclusion of dissent - it's hard to judge objectively, especially for spectators, so is likely to drive disaffection.
realistically this is gonna be a shit show. It will be the same as VAR, every week refs will fail to be consistent in how they apply it, often in the same match
Players should be able to choose whichever colour they want?
New Ultimate Teams cards!
But clearly it doesn't, it's evident by the amount of tactical fouls.
I think this is the problem. Introducing even more massively match changing decisions for referees to cock up is not a good idea. Its not a bad idea intrinsically but imagine when smaller teams are playing the big boys and in the last 15 minutes they commit a couple of blue card offences. They are down to 9 men, dead on their feet and then the other team makes 2 quality subs to tear them to pieces.
The other danger is that badly timed tackles will be considered professional fouls. Most teams would rather their player got a yellow than lose them for 10 minutes if they make a little mistake.
And we know that at certain grounds they will be bullied by the crowds/managers....
Well maybe it will stop any player from saying anything remotely like it, and be more like Rugby.
I imagine in that situation they could get a yellow and a blue.
This is only being introduced in grassroots football. Doubt we'll see this in professional leagues for a long time yet. (They have to run the trial, assess the results, etc etc).
Sounds shit though
Sounds shit though
Might work with good officials, but this country doesn't have any, so I expect a disaster.
These blue cards will quickly become known as a "Bus Pass" as any team temporarily reduced in numbers by one will just try and park the bus for the 10 minute sin bin period.
I like the idea of something short of a yellow card as there are countless times when players get a second yellow and sent off for 2 very minor offences. As others have said - the 10 minutes of sin bin time needs to be actual time with the ball in play, otherwise teams will not just park the bus but also massively try and waste time.
I like the idea of something short of a yellow card as there are countless times when players get a second yellow and sent off for 2 very minor offences. As others have said - the 10 minutes of sin bin time needs to be actual time with the ball in play, otherwise teams will not just park the bus but also massively try and waste time.
The Telegraph article did say we could see 'elite trials' begin as soon as next summer though. They mention a possibility of the FA volunteering it to be trialed in next season's FA Cups (both men and women).This is only being introduced in grassroots football. Doubt we'll see this in professional leagues for a long time yet. (They have to run the trial, assess the results, etc etc).
Sounds shit though
But yeah in any case it would likely take a couple years minimum for it to be implemented globally.
Pointless. Any benefits of this could be achieved with better use of red and yellow cards.
Why the constant moves to overcomplicate a game which is always at its best when it's at its simplest?
Why the constant moves to overcomplicate a game which is always at its best when it's at its simplest?
It will be a non contact sport soon - sort of like subbuteo!
Will 2 blues equal a yellow?
Should have just stuck with my idea of robot lions.
Two Blues equals a Red is illogical.
Ref should also be made to explain on the field, the reason for every type of card.
What about a blue and yellow?
Also a red, according to the article. Any combination of two yellow or blue cards (2Y, 2B or Y+B) would be upgrade to a red.
Seems a bit shite if you ask me.