Bruno Fernandes Out? | Staying at Man United

[Pexbo]

I am aware people get older as time passes but thank you.

But that’s the context people are considering his age. The next 3 months are redundant in football terms so we have to think about the player we are selling who is for all intents and purposes a 31 year old.

 

[TPM]

80m would be an absolutely terrible deal, there’s nothing to be ”torn” on.

Which other club would offer more? Some of you are completely delusional thinking any other club in Europe would bother to offer more.

 

[BarstoolProphet]

Sure, if we can squeeze extra money out of it then i'm all for it, i was just making the point that according to the market 80m is reasonable, doesn't mean we shouldn't try for more. Personally, i'm fine with the 80m if it came down to it.

Like I said, market value doesn't apply to KSA league (look at Neymar, who was completely done by that time). Also don't think selling him to a domestic rival or to a top team in Europe is even remotely considered, hence the lack of links there. I still think 80m is not enough.

 

[croadyman]

Feck sake Utd reject offer of £80m, that's the only way they might come back with one around £100m

 

[msjmohd83]

is the 80m or 100m up front or in installments? if up front it would really help in the squad rebuild

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Sure, if we can squeeze extra money out of it then i'm all for it, i was just making the point that according to the market 80m is reasonable, doesn't mean we shouldn't try for more. Personally, i'm fine with the 80m if it came down to it.

If 80m is their oppening offer then surely we have to reject it on principal? What club accepts the opening offer for their best player?

Our opening offers seemingly never get accepted.

 

[The Uncle of All Uncles]

We paid 90 million quid for antony.

We paid 70 million quid for rasmus.

The idea that we can uncover gems or create a new squad from a Bruno sale is just wishful thinking.

Selling your club captain, the only world class player in the squad, to raise money is exactly what mid table clubs do. That is what we are becoming, and people are letting their expectations sink as rapidly as the club is.

Man Utd are a mid-table club right now. And Man Utd are in financial trouble.

There's no shame in acknowledging reality, especially when it's staring you right in the face.

There's a very, very, very long road back ahead for the club. Fans will need to temper their expectations. There could well be years more in the wilderness for this club, if not a lot longer. It's not 1992-2013 anymore.

 

[HookedOnAPhelan]

Presumably all the people complaining that ‘we wouldn’t spend the money wisely’ don’t want us spending any money this summer then? If we’re just gonna waste it anyway I mean.

 

[croadyman]

If we signed for example Gyokres and Mbeumo with the money it would be worth it. But can't see that happening - the problem is we aren't attractive enough to sign decent replacements, so I don't think we would spend the money well.

I could see that happening, however don't trust INEOS to recruit the right players that's for certain

 

[edgecutter]

He's mental not to consider that. His great great great great grandchildren are sorted for life.

 

[2 man midfield]

Feck sake Utd reject offer of £80m, that's the only way they might come back with one around £100m

You never take the first offer. Nobody we buy from does.

 

[slyadams]

We paid 90 million quid for antony.

We paid 70 million quid for rasmus.

The idea that we can uncover gems or create a new squad from a Bruno sale is just wishful thinking.

Selling your club captain, the only world class player in the squad, to raise money is exactly what mid table clubs do. That is what we are becoming, and people are letting their expectations sink as rapidly as the club is.

Whilst those two examples are true, if we think the statement "there's no point us having money we'll just waste it" is now an immutable truth then we might as well close the club down.

 

[Hammondo]

Man Utd are a mid-table club right now. And Man Utd are in financial trouble.

There's no shame in acknowledging reality, especially when it's staring you right in the face.

There's a very, very, very long road back ahead for the club. Fans will need to temper their expectations. There could well be years more in the wilderness for this club, if not a lot longer. It's not 1992-2013 anymore.

I do not mind if we sell or do not, but financially it would be the professional sensible way forward.

 

[duffer]

But that’s the context people are considering his age. The next 3 months are redundant in football terms so we have to think about the player we are selling who is for all intents and purposes a 31 year old.

He's 34 in a few years, let's just call him 38.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

I hope he stays, for we are a serious relegation threat without him. Al Halal can feck off.

 

[croadyman]

You can't blame Bruno for considering the huge money on offer, but if they're only offering £80M, no chance. Saudi have far more money than that.

Didn't they offer double that for Salah with 1 year left on his contract and Liverpool turned them down. Worked out alright for them and Salah has resigned for 2 years at £400K/week.

Yeah quit lowballing us, thought you were prepared to offer British record fee but that was BS

 

[sugar_kane]

I’m fairly comfortable with him leaving but deeply saddened it has to be to Saudi, would much rather he could go and play in one of Europe’s top leagues and compete for the best trophies.

Saudi money is ruining football when a player of this talent level and mentality can move there in their prime years.

 

[United666]

Quite simply, if they can afford to pay him £700,000 a week, they can afford to pay at least £100 million. And we all know they can. For £80 million, with his quality and extraordinary availability, they can feck off.

 

[croadyman]

There’s no such thing as don’t want to sell. Even Yoro has a price we would listen to.

For me, £80m is too low, £100m is about acceptable. If they don’t want to offer that then he would be staying.

Yeah completely agree they are taking piss with £80m

 

[Nogbadthebad]

Presumably all the people complaining that ‘we wouldn’t spend the money wisely’ don’t want us spending any money this summer then? If we’re just gonna waste it anyway I mean.

Do you not see the difference between hoping they get some transfers right, and selling the only reason we were not relegated, the best player the club has, and hoping that we can sign a few players to replace him.

One is a shot in the dark, but is unlikely to get us relegated if they do not work out, we'll just have another bad season of mid table mediocrity.

The other, if we sell bruno and his replacements fail, then relegation is a very real possibility.

 

[Fenômeno]

Like I said, market value doesn't apply to KSA league (look at Neymar, who was completely done by that time). Also don't think selling him to a domestic rival or to a top team in Europe is even remotely considered, hence the lack of links there. I still think 80m is not enough.

Problem is we wouldn't get close to 80m in Europe either, so even when you look at in that way 80m is already an inflated figure. Neymar, is a different kettle of fish when it comes to worldwide profile and the money he generates off the pitch.

 

[honirelandboy]

If we could two new players from the money like a ball playing center midfielder like Wharton and AM like cherki or Muembo id probably be all for selling him in all honesty out of his sale money. Bruno has been a great player for the club but if we are to move into this new era under Amorim I wouldn’t be against selling him, especially at 31 and got 80 to 120 million for him.

The only thing is though are we gonna repeat the problems of the past and panic buy players towards the end of the window then not a hope. If we are to sell him we need to make sure we have a proper plan in place and realistic targets identified who would be happy to join United and actually improve the team.

 

[pocco]

£80m? It’s a no from me.

 

[VP89]

After this new and improved structure punted on Dorgu for 35m EUR ahead of alternatives, I have very little faith they can allocate resources efficiently.

 

[croadyman]

You never take the first offer. Nobody we buy from does.

Doesn't feel like they are prepared to go higher, like I said earlier needed to be lower wages and £100m fee

 

[duffer]

He's mental not to consider that. His great great great great grandchildren are sorted for life.

He's already a millionaire many times over. After a certain point it's simply greed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm greedy but let's not pretend it's anything other than that.

 

[Garethw]

I’d be disillusioned too under this manager and board.

 

[JBG]

Presumably all the people complaining that ‘we wouldn’t spend the money wisely’ don’t want us spending any money this summer then? If we’re just gonna waste it anyway I mean.

Exactly, I'm not saying "sell, sell!" It's not that easy for me as a fan, love Bruno on and off the field. But if we get an offer of 100m, it will be silly to say no imo, specially on the basis of "we won't spend it wisely". Because as you say, then we can just give a feck and not spend at all if that's the attitude and thought process.

 

[croadyman]

After this new and improved structure punted on Dorgu for 35m EUR ahead of alternatives, I have very little faith they can allocate resources efficiently.

Wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them

 

[croadyman]

I’d be disillusioned too under this manager and board.

So you are Ruben out then

 

[Man-United]

Sell and build with young English players like we started with Ole, though the signings of Sancho, AWB, Maguire were the wrong players.

 

[croadyman]

£80m? It’s a no from me.

Yeah pathetic offer from a moneybags team

 

[FootyGirl88]

After this new and improved structure punted on Dorgu for 35m EUR ahead of alternatives, I have very little faith they can allocate resources efficiently.

It would be 50/50 I think

Yoro and Heaven were good purchases

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

After this new and improved structure punted on Dorgu for 35m EUR ahead of alternatives, I have very little faith they can allocate resources efficiently.

This. I’ve very little faith they won’t squander this money and then we go into next season minus the player that stood between us and a genuine relegation battle.

 

[OleGunnar20]

He's mental not to consider that. His great great great great grandchildren are sorted for life.

I'm not so sure personally. His great great grandchildren should already be sorted for life really, what material difference does that extra 10x of cash make? I suppose if you want to buy a football club or something equally mental then sure, but if you're just happy living as a normal filthy rich person, does it really change much? He's already on over £10m a year I believe.

I think Brunos clearly a competitor who values winning honours highly. I wonder if he'd be happy to trade that extra mountain of gold for a few more honours, a few more memorable wins in an actual competitive environment? That's without taking into account the difference in lifestyle between Saudi Arabia and your average Western city.

 

[El-Manos]

If 80m is their oppening offer then surely we have to reject it on principal? What club accepts the opening offer for their best player?

Our opening offers seemingly never get accepted.

Bang on. Feck them with their 80 m

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Presumably all the people complaining that ‘we wouldn’t spend the money wisely’ don’t want us spending any money this summer then? If we’re just gonna waste it anyway I mean.

But that's two seperate issues surely?

The club have to spend money wisely this summer for the people that don't have faith in their purchasing skills to believe in them.

Once they do that effectively, only then would people be more onboard with selling our best player and reinvesting the funds in the squad.

 

[Garethw]

So you are Ruben out then

I know he’s flavour of the month on here, but he appears tactically clueless at PL level. I’m honestly worried about next season with him as manager.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

After this new and improved structure punted on Dorgu for 35m EUR ahead of alternatives, I have very little faith they can allocate resources efficiently.

Add Ugarte to that

 

[Pexbo]

He's 34 in a few years, let's just call him 38.

Which has no relevance to anything whatsoever and you know it. Footballers have a finite career and it’s realistic to think his legs will be gone between 33 and 35. If we discuss him as a 30 year old rather than 31 which he will be for the majority of next season then you are talking about a 20-50% difference in how long you can expect him to perform.