I'd hate to think where would be without Bruno this season, it would be absolute madness to even entertain selling him. Not that I think he'd go to Saudi anyways. Still think Bruno has 5 good years left in him tbh and we're going to need him
Bruno Fernandes Out?
- Thread starter Berbaclass
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Luxury player , I give up
The money we get from his sale will definitely cover our loss in income when we get relegated next season without him.
Would be an absolutely braindead decision to sell him right now, who would we get that could replace him? It's not as if the best CAM's will be chopping to come to us.
Would be an absolutely braindead decision to sell him right now, who would we get that could replace him? It's not as if the best CAM's will be chopping to come to us.
It's not like he would want to go anyway, especially if we win the EL. I reckon he would want to give CL another go.
The 90 million we got for Ronaldo was good financial business but adding Owen, Valencia and Obertan to the squad didn’t make us a better team. That’s essentially what we would be doing. Taking chances on players.
Now isn’t the time to sell Bruno. Granted no player is guaranteed to perform far into their 30s but we should easily expect 2-3 years at least.
Now isn’t the time to sell Bruno. Granted no player is guaranteed to perform far into their 30s but we should easily expect 2-3 years at least.
Ah yes, the luxury of scoring any goals at all.
He is very obviously and deservedly going to win our player of the year award.
That's more Glazer penny pinching than anything else.
A free transfer, a £16m right winger and £3m punt. If we sold Bruno for £100m and only reinvested £20m, yes, we'd be fecked.
Good job they sold the club long ago then
Which is what he says at the end of the post, to be fair.
Agreed. Whilst Fernandes is by far and away our best and most important player, in theory we could do a lot with the free space. In practice, I don’t trust us to do it properly.
Hopefully not an issue we need to worry about for another 12-24 months.
All players above 30 should be considered available at the right price.
Thank goodness they're gone....Wait, what!?
Oh really, when did that happen?
I don't think you can call him a luxury player to be honest. The team would be in the relegation zone without him.
Oh wait a sec, I've been looking into this deeper. Turns out they still own the club, they're still parasites, and they're still going to pay themselves out of any extra revenue we generate.
Sooner or later this team will run into creativity crisis as Eriksen & Mount can't cope with full season in physically demanding league like PL. Sell Bruno now, and pressure will pile up, especially if this current chaos qualifies for Champions League.
Can't replace everyone, and actually as reality shows, it's sometimes difficult to replace lads like Wan Bissaka at some point, but I do hope academy will keep surprising everyone, the United way.
We'll need absolutely stellar next two / three summer windows, perhaps then there will be no need for players of Bruno's format.
Can't replace everyone, and actually as reality shows, it's sometimes difficult to replace lads like Wan Bissaka at some point, but I do hope academy will keep surprising everyone, the United way.
We'll need absolutely stellar next two / three summer windows, perhaps then there will be no need for players of Bruno's format.
I've been very critical of Bruno the last couple of seasons but take my hat off to him, he's stood up and been counted through a very difficult season. His worth to us at the moment, probably £200 million. No one is paying that nor do we want them to. If we make CL he has to stay. Next summer, once we've hopefully secured some decent arrivals, might be a different question though.
It is almost comical when you look at that summer we sold Ronaldo, I feel like since then there was definitely way more spending with LVG through to Ineos coming in, but SAF really had to work wonders.
This was probably the easiest replacement.. Maz is 10x better in all departments than Wan Bissaka.
That was such a bleak summer. I remember trying to look on the bright side at the replacements we would bring in - I remember Ribery was strongly linked, and I think Sneijder too. At the time swapping peak Ronaldo for Obertan, Valencia and a washed up Owen seemed as bad as things could get.
100m is insane money in general, but is not that insane in the context of what it can buy in terms of elite football players.
Yes, it will help in the PSR calculations but that is not the only constraint we have in terms of buying players at the moment. PSR aside, we dont actually have that much amount of cash / borrowing capacity to spend in the market even if PSR allowed for it.
So, in terms of the football market, 100m will allow you to get at most a good striker, like a Gyokeres, and another squad player. It’s for sure not going to be transformative in terms of overall squad composition, especially considering what you are losing in return.
If Saudi offer 125 mil, we should jump at it. We’re nowhere close to winning anything, are in a full on rebuild, and are skint. By the time this squad is good enough to win, he’ll be on the decline. It’ll suck, but these tough decisions need to be made.
That said, I really doubt this happens.
That said, I really doubt this happens.
How would be replace him? I wouldn't trust us to spend 100+ quid. He's our best player by a mile selling him would be our biggest brain fart yet.
He is indeed better and for a good price, but in this new system, replacing anyone so far looks difficult, as only Bruno looking to play his 100%. Dorgu and Zirkzee while being signed as fitting players also seems like in need of time to grasp this way of play.
Bissaka was also looking good when he arrived, so I'd like to see some longevity of quality from players like Maz, De Ligt or Ugarte, mainly because PL verifies every player's weakness after couple of seasons.
Did I hear right that, of Premier League players, only Salah has more combined goals and assists in all competitions this season?
In other words our only player who is producing elite levels of performance and no one else is even close.
But sure, why not gamble on replacing him with a Wolves player with a questionable attitude who's on the streak of his life and the chance to be ripped off again by Atalanta? And that's if we're lucky. Chances are a chunk of it will be siphoned off to fun Joel and co. instead.
In other words our only player who is producing elite levels of performance and no one else is even close.
But sure, why not gamble on replacing him with a Wolves player with a questionable attitude who's on the streak of his life and the chance to be ripped off again by Atalanta? And that's if we're lucky. Chances are a chunk of it will be siphoned off to fun Joel and co. instead.
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All understandable stuff but if we apply the mindset of the bolded part, you don't need to make any transfer anymore at all. It is just media BS, I highly doubt that such a thing would happen but some of the reaction is a little overkill, to me at least. I mean, with Bruno we got by barely until this season. It might have been even worse without him, granted but it isn't as if the place we are right now, is all too comfortably. With him in the team, we still need a striker who can pull his weight, we need other players to contribute to attacks, we still need to add players to improve in terms of controlling the ball. The situation would be even more dire, if we were about to lose him, but I don't see a crazy effect. Chance creation would take a serious hit, but the current level isn't anything to celebrate so we have to improve there with him and without him. Most teams get by very well without such a player type in their team and we would do well in trying to understand what they do better than us.
But all that said, the player won't move to Saudi Arabia. Why would he, since he has such a comfortable place right now. It isn't going to happen and even if, for some crazy reason, Bruno would ok such a deal, there is absolutely nothing to indicate that the club would make difficult or/and bold decision like that, risking an outcry in the fanbase.
Every players or person has a price tag.
Every player has a value and if that value is met then anyone can go because they are simply an asset that is both of value to us an valuable to someone else.
Garnacho at 60, Neymar at 200, Messi at half a million wage per week or something, Pogba at 89mil, Ronaldo at 100 or whatever.
Bruno's value for me to non saudi clubs is above 80 million only because of his age & him being our main player. Considering its Saudi we should be able to get 90-100m.
As magnificent as he is you can't turn down that type of offer, that's like selling 1 well built house that could help you buy 6 good flats instead.
Every player has a value and if that value is met then anyone can go because they are simply an asset that is both of value to us an valuable to someone else.
Garnacho at 60, Neymar at 200, Messi at half a million wage per week or something, Pogba at 89mil, Ronaldo at 100 or whatever.
Bruno's value for me to non saudi clubs is above 80 million only because of his age & him being our main player. Considering its Saudi we should be able to get 90-100m.
As magnificent as he is you can't turn down that type of offer, that's like selling 1 well built house that could help you buy 6 good flats instead.
There are some absolute business tycoons in this thread.
I believe this is true, especially when we're years off challenging for the PL
however Bruno won't go to Saudi so it's a none starter really
obviously more than happy to keep him he's our best player by a mile
Two games away from winning the Europa League, with a 3-0 first leg advantage… hmmmmm.
We aren’t skint, and so what if we need to ‘rebuild’. More than happy to sell Bruno for someone we guarantee to contribute more and have his level of fitness. Answers to who that is, on a post card please.
Do you understand the meaning of “luxury player”?
Luxury player, as in the luxury of not going to the championship?
He’s going nowhere and rightly so.
Any player should be available at the right price, but would be very depressing selling our best, especially on top of the slog of last couple of years.
He had a period of 4-6 weeks (maybe slightly longer) where he was truly out of sorts and whinging far too much. Looking at him out of possession in that time was painful and in a better team (or under SAF) might well have been dropped/rested.
When he came back to life, he looked much happier (maybe there was something going on off the field) and he got back to being the star man (although still not what he was in his first six months at the club)
When he came back to life, he looked much happier (maybe there was something going on off the field) and he got back to being the star man (although still not what he was in his first six months at the club)
I'm not sure you understand what the definition of a luxury player is.
I'd rather he retired at United when he's 40 than sell for 200m now. He doesn't rely on pace so he can play as long as he wants. We need new players sure but not from selling Bruno. We cannot afford to sell one of the best players in the league. Are you guys for real? I can't take anyone thinking we should sell seriously.
100%.
Bruno is arguably the only signing we've made in the last decade that has been quality for longer than a couple of seasons. You would not trust our club to spend the money well.
We have so many high priced bad signings we'd all fall out working out which was worse.
Bruno. It is time for you to say "You can only play me if you buy the Manchester United". Then we would have business tycoons coming in.....