Could be a lapse of memory. It happens with alot of us.
Buffon’s list of Top keepers currently playing | De Gea not included
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Even if that were the case how on earth can De Gea be omitted? Surely he's at least the 2nd or 3rd name on anyones list and it goes without saying he should actually be 1st
Who cares what Buffoon thinks.
This.
I'm not sure the context of the question, but often when I'm asked "top 5 attackers/defenders etc." I can speedily name 3 or so...then it becomes a game of thinking, and I often go back as I end up forgetting/missing someone.
Also, the less people who rate DDG, the better for us, I say
You genuinely think Buffon is jealous of DDG taking over his mantle at 40 years old?
While I think DDG is the best keeper in the world, he has been left out of many lists...
France Football had him 7th.. what are they looking to preserve? That was a panel of top keepers who took the vote and the highest De Gea got off any of them was 3rd.
Maybe he's just not as far ahead of every other keeper as many believe? With Marca he won best keeper in the world but only narrowly defeated Neuer despite him being Spanish no.1, 7 votes to 5.
But fwiw, I think Buffon just forgot about him and he'd be on the list if he remembered.
not sure all the fuss about Buffon, surely the most over rated GK of all time, he clearly just wanting some air time now with comments like that, sure after Navas performance last night he will still think hes up there as one of the best in the world.
I think because we haven't had much recent success it hurts his worldwide reputation. We haven't had a decent run in the CL or come close to winning the league in a while. Hopefully he will have a great WC and get the recognition he deserves.
His control of the box is very limited and claiming crosses and corners is way behind the best..
Not having that he forgot. Or that he doesn’t watch DDG. Unless he has been living under a rock for 4 years now, you don’t not notice someone who has been elected best GK in this league for a while and you can’t just forget him and remember ederson who has been in city for half a year.
Plus ederson and Courtois have done nothing of late in the CL to give them an advantage. Courtois’ 13-14 campaign being key is also a bit far fetched. That’s now a long time ago. Would we still call Wayne Rooney a top player because he was good that year?
Plus ederson and Courtois have done nothing of late in the CL to give them an advantage. Courtois’ 13-14 campaign being key is also a bit far fetched. That’s now a long time ago. Would we still call Wayne Rooney a top player because he was good that year?
A liitle Jealousy maybe. ???
He just stated his opinion. He even added that he hopes he did not forget anyone, so maybe he even just forgot him... why are people getting offended so fast? Utd Glasses?
I can only say, De Gea has an interdomestic reputation as a good goalie but not more. Ever when I saw him he was average. I must admit I cannot follow every Man Utd game and the presence in european top games were rare for Utd the last years. Therefore he cannot show his class on the highest stage and might come short when it comes to these lists.
Personally I think DDG is overrated on this forum. He never impressed me that much. I think there are a few better keepers like the ones Buffon mentioned.
I can only say, De Gea has an interdomestic reputation as a good goalie but not more. Ever when I saw him he was average. I must admit I cannot follow every Man Utd game and the presence in european top games were rare for Utd the last years. Therefore he cannot show his class on the highest stage and might come short when it comes to these lists.
Personally I think DDG is overrated on this forum. He never impressed me that much. I think there are a few better keepers like the ones Buffon mentioned.
Just a good goalie?
Overrated?
Never impressed you?
You should follow United games more. It's a bizarre post.
How dare you leave out DDG. Karma bites you.
Interestingly, Buffon on retiring in March 2017:
"I don't even know if I'll retire after next year's World Cup," he said. "Of course I have objectives, but there are no certainties. Maybe I could even end my career with a headbutt like Zidane did. I could nut somebody -- who knows. I need to search deep within myself and work out how I feel. You can never say never, though.
Interestingly, Buffon on retiring in March 2017:
"I don't even know if I'll retire after next year's World Cup," he said. "Of course I have objectives, but there are no certainties. Maybe I could even end my career with a headbutt like Zidane did. I could nut somebody -- who knows. I need to search deep within myself and work out how I feel. You can never say never, though.
It’s pretty rich to call DDG just a good goalie and then say Ederson and Courtois better than him. Ederson sure he is better than DDG for city the same way Valdes was better than Casillas for peps team. No one could even say Courtois is better.
Unlike Neuerr, de Gea in not nonchalant?
I mean seriously, how can anybody claim that de Gea is better than Neuer? Neuer has been the ultimate 21st Century goalkeeper..revolutionized the role of a goalkeeper and has no weaknesses at all. He is a monster between the sticks, commanding the box like nobody before and being fantastic with the ball in his feet. He is the complete package and is like an alien compared to others..the Messi of goalkeepers.
IMO de Gea is a very good GK and he is WC, no doubt about that..I even think de Gea is the 2nd best behind Neuer, but Neuer is a different animal..a class above the rest. GOAT
Would have guess he just rates goalies who had memorable CL runs and that he doesn't really follow united, but he included Ederson...
Deserved the red yesterday.
He was great in Gladiator tbf.
Joaquim Phoenix? I hadn't realized
Buffon has a rubbish bin where his knowledge of current goalkeepers should be.
To be fair, the general trend is that De Gea isn’t rated as highly on the continent as he is in England.
That’s perhaps because despite being 27/28 years old, he still hasn’t made any impact on the Champions League or international football.
That’s perhaps because despite being 27/28 years old, he still hasn’t made any impact on the Champions League or international football.
Red card all day and twice on Wednesday!
Im guessing screwing up in Euro 2016 didn't help?
I already told you I do not watch too many Man Utd EPL games a season, so that is my view, live with it. I think you got me wrong because you might be an emotional fan. I did not attack your beloved goalie. I just want to point out that De Gea is not rated as world's best Goalkeeper like most United fanboys would say, because he did not show his excellence in any big international matches.. and that of course because, fairly, he did not play any.
There are simply a few GKs who are lucky to play those matches regurlarly. Those are almost the only which matter for getting to the ultimate top. Second Sevilla goal for example is toxic for DDG's international evaluation.
And please, if you have arguments against my opinion, state them, because saying it is bizarre is kinda... bizarre.
I honestly go back and forth between De Gea and Neuer when it comes to best in the world but don't see anyone beyond them two.
I think there are some general reasons why he isn't rated:
1) He largely failed at Euro 2016, had a couple of mistakes which cost Spain so he wasn't able to gain international success with them in that competition
2) No UCL success, or even near success. The furthest he has gone is the quarter-finals and though that is in no fault of his own, it does damper his reputation when his contemporaries have won titles, domestically and on the European stage.
2) He doesn't command his area as much as the Neuer, Ter Stegen etc. Maybe that's a thing fellow goalkeepers value amongst themselves, a goalkeepers job is also to control the defense infront of him and be authoritative, that's an issue I think we all agree De Gea has. He seems to restrict himself to only saving shots and plays rather safe when it comes to coming out of his line to collect crosses or clear balls.
Still, to me he is the best keeper in the world and has struggled to gain the reputation Neuer has because he plays for a largely inferior team.
'Not taking into account Italian keepers, I would say Oblak, Navas, ter Stegen, Ederson, Neuer and Courtois
I hope I haven’t forgotten anyone'
You sure have dear Gigi 'Red Card' Buffon!
The FIRST name to come to your mind should have definitely been DDG.
I hope Buffon retires with dignity for he WAS a truly great goalkeeper.
I hope I haven’t forgotten anyone'
You sure have dear Gigi 'Red Card' Buffon!
The FIRST name to come to your mind should have definitely been DDG.
I hope Buffon retires with dignity for he WAS a truly great goalkeeper.
Yes couldn’t agree more, if Buffon doesn’t rate de Gea then Madrid should perhaps be looking at keeping Keylor Navas as he was named by Buffon and therefore is clearly far superior. No point signing a backup keeper for silly money is there! *taps head*
My argument is you should watch more United PL games as I stated already.
Also by your point keepers show their excellence only in big international matches which is of course wrong.
And you're stating one goal (1) which is supposedly toxic for his international evaluation....
Me being emotional or not doesn't have anything with this.
Yeah
There are a lot of United fans who think that De Gea is better than Schmeichel ever was. No one in Spain considers De Gea anywhere near prime Casillas.
Wow really? He's excellent but as far as United keepers are concerned he's still behind VDS for me let alone Schmeichel.
Is that cause of lack of tropheys, lack of CL success or him playing outside Spain or just something completely else?
I still regards Schmikes as the best ever United keeper but DDG is not far behind.
He's behind Schmeichel but has exceeded VDS that's for sure, in terms of performance at least.
Most people on Spain don't closely follow United, but they have closely followed Madrid, so that is to be expected.
The only thing prime Casillas had over De Gea is his leadership (which is totally absent on De Gea). In everything else, including reflexes which were Casillas trademark, De Gea is better.
Looks like he didn't watch so much football in the last 5 years.
And i can understand Oblak(this is the guy i want if we lose Dave), Navas(he won back to back CLs + was great in WC 2014) but what did the likes of ter Stegen, Ederson etc. do to be mentioned as the best keepers in the world? Is playing in Barcelona or City is enough for that?
And i can understand Oblak(this is the guy i want if we lose Dave), Navas(he won back to back CLs + was great in WC 2014) but what did the likes of ter Stegen, Ederson etc. do to be mentioned as the best keepers in the world? Is playing in Barcelona or City is enough for that?
Stegen is having a great season as far as I'm concerned. Ederson should be the one out of this. Good keeper but not WC as Dave.
He's trying to remain relevant by not including DDG.
Deserves RC based on that alone. This is a joke.
Deserves RC based on that alone. This is a joke.
I always thought VDS was a big reason your Rio/Vidic partnership was at the level it was. Obviously i have small sample size compared to you but i always saw VDS leading his defense and was always sweeping up the few times either cocked up.
I loved VDS a lot and still. Dave has become a better shot stopper though.
It's a combination of all
1. He doesn't play for Real Madrid or Barcelona, therefore they don't watch him on a regular basis.
2. He made crucial mistakes at Euro 2016. He had an awful game against Croatia in particular, which cost Spain the top spot of the group.
3. He hasn't achieved much outside of England. Never been beyond the quarter finals of the Champions League.
Neuer is wildly regarded as the best goalkeeper. DDG is considered a tier below, along with Oblak, Navas and MATS.