SAred
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Just seeing Burnley quietly creep into the top 4, if come season end they managed to qualify for the Champions League how would you rate this achievement. Oh par with Leicester winning the league?
Tell that to Stan Kroenke.Well, no. Winning the league is better than Top 4.
Consider the season Leicester had before they won the title, and it makes Leicester's achievement even greater.Obviously, but Burnley are a way smaller team then Leicester so would there achievement not be pity close to Leicester winning the league. What are the odds on Burnley qualify for the Champions League is it similar to the 5000/1 odds that Leicester had for winning the league.
Nobody would be talking about Mahrez, Vardy or Kante if they didn't play out of their skin though, nobody was talking about how amazing those three (and more) are when they were nearly relegated. If, say, Brady, Vokes and Cork had as amazing season as those three from Leicester did, it would be the same kind of story.It would definitely be up there. I mean, Leicester had a better team that year with Kante, Mahrez, Vardy basically playing out of their skin. Burnley just do not have that quality. So if they did finish inside the top 4, then, yeah, it would be right up there as one of the great achievements in the PL history. Not as good as Leicester winning it but nonetheless - very impressive. They won't though.
Leicester and not even close, besides Burnley won't finish above 10th by the end of the season.
Yeah but Mahrez was seen to be a talented up and coming maverick if you like before he signed for Leicester wasn't he? I'm pretty sure he'd have found that level at right club anyway. Also, I just don't see the same level of talent and calibre in Burnley as I do with Leicester, imo. Another thing, Liecester started playing some quality football for last 10 games before the season they won the league which to me says that they were in fact a good team. Just managed by a lunatic.Nobody would be talking about Mahrez, Vardy or Kante if they didn't play out of their skin though, nobody was talking about how amazing those three (and more) are when they were nearly relegated. If, say, Brady, Vokes and Cork had as amazing season as those three from Leicester did, it would be the same kind of story.
For me it's not even comparable. One team's nearly relegated and wins the title next season, the second is doing great job thus far but it's still a long shot and even if they somehow managed to stay top 4, it's still not a trophy to be won.
You only rate Leicester's squad higher because of what they achieved in the title-winning season. They were on the verge of relegation the year before, and the year before that they were in the Championship. Nobody rated their squad then.I'm not so sure. If Burnley did manage it would be fecking incredible considering the competition. Also, player for player Burnley are a level below to what Leicester were. That is my reasoning.
Yes, there is obviously a degree of rating higher because they've overachieved. But I think it's fair to say that Mahrez, Kante, and Vardy are top drawer players who came into their own that season. I can't see anyone remotely as talented as those 3 in Burnley. I mean, Defour is talented alright, and Heaton is a solid keeper but thats probably it.You only rate Leicester's squad higher because of what they achieved in the title-winning season. They were on the verge of relegation the year before, and the year before that they were in the Championship. Nobody rated their squad then.
It's actually remarkably similar to Burnley's last two seasons. So the clubs were pretty much in the same position, making Leicester's title a much, much bigger achievement than a Champions League spot would be for Burnley (though of course that would be huge as well).
Yep, agree with this.Not sure how you gauge between the two. Leicester had players the elite clubs were eyeing up by the end of the season, such was their performance.
Burnley, the average fan couldn't name a single player in their team.
Leicester won the league when it was in a down period; Burnley are doing what they're doing at a time when the league is in a massive upswing, with all 5 teams qualifying for the K.O. stages of the CL and looking like a threat competing with them for this season's top 4.
Leicester don't win the league with that team vs the behemoth City side or even our misfiring team against them, so as amazing as what they did is, it's a different time and a different task to what the 2017/18 sides face.
tl:dr: the achievements are too different to really put them against each other. Logic states league title> all, but logic also states that this years competition is far, far harder than the one Leicester's title win came in.
I've heard that before!besides Burnley won't finish above 10th by the end of the season.
Top 4 on par with winning. You an Arsenal fan?Just seeing Burnley quietly creep into the top 4, if come season end they managed to qualify for the Champions League how would you rate this achievement. Oh par with Leicester winning the league?
Yeah a cup competition is much easier to win than a 38 game slug over 8-9 month period.Leicester winning the league is the craziest thing I've seen in football bar everything. Greece was an obvious favorite for the 2004 euro's compared to this.
And for good reason.I've heard that before!
And winning the league is several levels above finishing 4th (they have no chance for 2nd or 3rd), that is my reasoning too. You cannot compare 2 achievements that are so different.I'm not so sure. If Burnley did manage it would be fecking incredible considering the competition. Also, player for player Burnley are a level below to what Leicester were. That is my reasoning.
Yeah, you're quite right.And winning the league is several levels above finishing 4th (they have no chance for 2nd or 3rd), that is my reasoning too. You cannot compare 2 achievements that are so different.
Plenty of weak teams manage to surprise and compete for European places in Europe in the past 10-20 years but what Leicester did is unique.
As for the bolded, I'm not sure about that, after all he was playing for Le Havre who were in the second French league, and he was transferred to a Championship club after all. I understand what you're saying but would you honestly classify Simpsons, Drinkwaters or Schmeichels as ones with potential or some second string wash ups? Because to me they have, or I would have perceived them, as, say, Brady's potential tier.Yeah but Mahrez was seen to be a talented up and coming maverick if you like before he signed for Leicester wasn't he? I'm pretty sure he'd have found that level at right club anyway. Also, I just don't see the same level of talent and calibre in Burnley as I do with Leicester, imo. Another thing, Liecester started playing some quality football for last 10 games before the season they won the league which to me says that they were in fact a good team. Just managed by a lunatic.
But, yeah, Leicester winning the PL is something ill remember for the rest of my life.
It's just IF Burnley somehow do sneak into top 4 it would be crazy as hell too.