Yes, and replace them with players 5 years younger and in their prime. Sell them in January if there’s a buyer, even if we have to wait until the summer to replace them. Season’s gone already.Been linked to Saudi in recent weeks. Should we cash in already in January?
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He was absolutely brilliant for us last season but he came back after the summer overweight. If we can get anything close to what we paid for him we should take it.If Fabinho is worth £40m to the Saudis, we should easily be recouping what we paid for him last season. I am all in favour for this - he's not been a good signing.
Yup we will replace with players equivalent to Jadon Sancho in the respected positions. Happy days.Yes, and replace them with players 5 years younger and in their prime. Sell them in January if there’s a buyer, even if we have to wait until the summer to replace them. Season’s gone already.
Casemiro and Varane were the Jadon Sanchos of the day in their positions when real signed them and even then once they are there Real keep the best and cut the rest if it doesn’t work out. Look at the players they’ve been able to let go of over the years? It’s crazy the gulf in talent at the two clubs.Yup we will replace with players equivalent to Jadon Sancho in the respected positions. Happy days.
They replaced Casemiro, Kroos and Madrid with Bellingham, Touchemeni and Cavanigha (I know the spelling is shocking)! Also kept Madrid and Kroos.Casemiro and Varane were the Jadon Sanchos of the day in their positions when real signed them and even then once they are there Real keep the best and cut the rest if it doesn’t work out. Look at the players they’ve been able to let go of over the years? It’s crazy the gulf in talent at the two clubs.
therein lies the problem, 2 players that form the spine of the team, our 2 highest paid players and we can't be expecting them to play 2 games a week. Our transfer policy is recent seasons has been woeful. Our top paid players are Casemiro, Varane, Rashford, Sancho, Mount, Martial, Bruno and Antony. Nothing wrong with bringing in experience, we did it with Ibra, but he was free, we paid big money for Casemiro and give him a 4 year deal. He played a part in what we needed last season ie top 4 and a cup. We saw how poor he was towards the end of last season, we saw how he looked overweight in preseason, and we waited until last day of window and brought in Amrabat on loan.Personally think it's madness to sell both mid season, just highlights to me that we've abandoned this season completely and accept it's going to be a terrible year. Wonderful.
Nothing wrong with Casemiro, we've overplayed the guy. He needs rotation as proven last year he can still be quality and a big game player. But if you expect him to play twice a week at high tempo then no fecking shit he's going to get tired and breakdown.
Same applies to Varane too. If he's injury prone you don't fecking rush him back from injury and then push his body by playing him twice a week.
Most players can't play twice a week at the tempo of the PL and retain their form throughout. The issue is having players return from injury too quickly and then get baffled why they immediately break down again.therein lies the problem, 2 players that form the spine of the team, our 2 highest paid players and we can't be expecting them to play 2 games a week. Our trnasfer plicy is recent season has been woeful. Our top paid players a
Yep, this is the move that makes sense. Great player who can play in the PL, looks the business and would improve our midfield for sure.Casemiro out, Palinha in. Yes please
I think the concern is if/when we finally get a suitable system in play, Casemiro would have declined considerably more, especially considering his ageing trajectory as a footballer, to the extent he'd be considered a liability by that point, and an expensive one at that.Crazy how fast opinions have changed. I wasn't completely on board with the signing due to his age and price, which meant he was likely to slow down at some stage. What I will say though is that we've used him completely wrong. We've took a midfielder who has thrived in a midfield 3/double pivot and stuck him in midfield on his own. At his age, this plan was doomed to fail. And we've not once used him in anything like the system he thrived in. Just ridiculous really.
I wouldn't have expected us to be lining up with a CB partnership of Maguire and Evans and having McTominay as one of our biggest goalthreats in 2023 yet here we are.Imagine getting rid of Varane, Casemiro and Sancho in January. No one would have seen that coming 2 years ago
Exactly, I love Casemiro and still rate him as one of the best players in the squad, but this is quite obviously the right time to sell him if we can.I think the concern is if/when we finally get a suitable system in play, Casemiro would have declined considerably more, especially considering his ageing trajectory as a footballer, to the extent he'd be considered a liability by that point, and an expensive one at that.
I think you can share opinion that he was an impactful signing for us and even one of our more important players today, while conceding that selling him now while his stocks remains relatively high to the Saudi market would be an astute bit of business and long term planning.
Its not so much about being fickle but rather understanding the long term picture.
Well to be fair we only signed them 2 years ago. Them two and Ronaldo was meant to be us closing the gap on city.Imagine getting rid of Varane, Casemiro and Sancho in January. No one would have seen that coming 2 years ago
He came back into preseason though overweight, off the back of what was considered a good season for us.His comments last month were telling, he's clearly had enough of the lack of winning mentality in the dressing room and phoned it in. As soon as I read those comments I knew he'd be gone in January and I thought the same about Varane too.
They need replacing with players who actually fit a pressing system if thats how we aim to play, my picks would be Vermeeren and Todibo.
What comments mate?His comments last month were telling, he's clearly had enough of the lack of winning mentality in the dressing room and phoned it in. As soon as I read those comments I knew he'd be gone in January and I thought the same about Varane too.
They need replacing with players who actually fit a pressing system if thats how we aim to play, my picks would be Vermeeren and Todibo.
He didn't like the mentality in the dressing room, players (Rashford) going out partying after the loss vs City. Said he missed the mentality and dedication Ronaldo showed, from those comments it made me think he'd spoke with Ronaldo and he had been talked into moving to Saudi.What comments mate?