Then your memory can’t be that good. Strange how United had more shots on target, more possession and more corners than Bayern but somehow it was an undeserved win and title.
Well, thankfully the wins are not handed out by how certain fans remember the game, but by what actually happened.
We scored two late goals after chasing the game for 80+ minutes. That’s the short version which people remember. And Bayern hit the post, yes. So what? We still had more chances and more of the ball. How does this compare to the 2012 final at all?
No - they retrospectively did a xG analysis of the game and we won on that. We also won on the normal stats they use. This idea that we were dominated and won through luck is a myth.
Quality of chances matters, and while we hit post and bar (Jancker and Scholl), you didn't have a quality moment until the very end. It could have been 3:0, but we didn't bag it, and in the end in turned into a classic smash & grab for you.
We won the stats, we won the xG trophy and we won the most important stat which has always mattered the most: the end result … but if it makes you feel better that you could have won 3-0 then fine.
Plus that reply was to the poster claiming the first shot at the Bayern goal happened in min 90+1. But maybe he meant the first United goal happened in min 90+1
It is not really a thing anymore. This is also supported by the fact that after the worst moments (United and Chelsea), Bayern's teams won the cup the next year or the year after. This has healed many wounds. Most Bayern fans have a positive image of United because it is the most comparable team to them in England.
That's strange because I've always considered United's German counterparts to be VfL Bochum.
Welcome to xG, where the quality of actual chances are measured by what the StatBomb model deems likely, and not what's happening on the pitch . But I suppose it's great to have some dodgy stat peddlers to back you up in case you don't like what you see.
This chance has been rated with an xG of 0.4 by StatBomb. A shot that wasn't even on target.
This post is the xG equivalent of "Fergie bought the
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I do not question StatBomb in particular, I question the validity of xG in general, especially when people try to use it to create an alternative narrative. Blomqvist's shot, although not on target, was valued higher than both chances of Jancker and Scholl combined.
I agree to an extent - I'm not a fan of using xG to analyse a game in isolation (it's a more useful metric when looking for trends over a period of time).
Why would they? They got revenge against us 2 years later enroute to winning the cup, and have knocked us out twice in Europe since
Because it was. Blomqvist chance was easier to convert than either Jancker's or Scholl's. Scholl in particular was a low quality chance turned almost into a goal by a great shot. Ultimately the stats assessment of the game is pretty accurate - first 80 minutes were cagey, very little happening besides Basler's goal, then Bayern get a couple chances late on to kill the game as United get desperate, miss them, then United creates and converts two big chances in injury time to win it. Not too dissimilar from Madrid vs City actually, where at the 88' minute City are kinda deservedly winning 1-0, but then at full time Real Madrid have deservedly won 2-1
Wouldn’t know, I’m not a Bayern fan.
The thing is that xG rates situations, not shot quality. Hitting the post from a difficult spot is a great shot, but a low quality chance because it needs a really great shot to convert.
Fair
Barcelona lost and drew to Inter while Benfica topped a group with PSG and Juve. Brügge qualified over Leverkusen and Atleti.
Not just sounds but is of a higher quality match up
That is to be expected but let them play first.
Yeah Brugge and Benfica should be kicked out for United v Barcelona instead
Not saying that but it’s strange that you could make an argument that 3 of the best. What? 5 best teams in the world at the minute are in the EL.Yeah Brugge and Benfica should be kicked out for United v Barcelona instead
But that can be perfectly reasonable. Situation A can be described as a bigger chance than Situation B even if the latter was closer to being a goal. For an extreme example: if a striker blasts well over the empty net from five meters out, that's undoubtedly a bigger chance than a 30-metre screamer that hits the bar.
And much more world wide will be viewing the game on Thursday.
who are those 3 EL teams that are top 5 in the world if I may ask?
I'm curious to hear this too
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Could be his last one too.
