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I went to the Shef Utd match today. Chelsea looked like a different/worse team than against usThey deserved that the twats. 2-2 against an even worse team than us.
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I went to the Shef Utd match today. Chelsea looked like a different/worse team than against usThey deserved that the twats. 2-2 against an even worse team than us.
They actually wouldn't need to if I understand the situation correctly. They need something like a 105 million profit this year to be compliant with regulations, but for next year, the 120 million loss from 3 years ago drops off, so they could afford another 120 million loss next year (although that also has to factor in amortization on the players they've signed already). That's why they need to sell before the end of June to finish this year profitably, and then come July they can start spending again. So they'll sell their homegrown players who are pure profit and sign new players whose transfer fees can be amortized over a longer time period. Good strategy if it works but if they continue signing duds they're up shit's creek in a few years.They'll find buyers for Gallagher. Not so sure on Reece James, he's a fantastic player when fit but the money Chelsea will ask for won't be worth the risk to any team.
You do have to ask the question though. How will they continue to spend when they run out of academy products to sell ?
Did we look a better team than Shef Utd?I went to the Shef Utd match today. Chelsea looked like a different/worse team than against us
Yeah that was my point. The problem is they'll get through that this season by selling Gallagher or James, soon their proven home grown players will run out and then can't make pure profit of any player. What happens if they sign duds this season and finish 8th next summer with no home grown talents left ?They actually wouldn't need to if I understand the situation correctly. They need something like a 105 million profit this year to be compliant with regulations, but for next year, the 120 million loss from 3 years ago drops off, so they could afford another 120 million loss next year (although that also has to factor in amortization on the players they've signed already). That's why they need to sell before the end of June to finish this year profitably, and then come July they can start spending again. So they'll sell their homegrown players who are pure profit and sign new players whose transfer fees can be amortized over a longer time period. Good strategy if it works but if they continue signing duds they're up shit's creek in a few years.
General skill wise yes, %effort, not really. Though Shef Utd also have the same ability to switch off in defenceDid we look a better team than Shef Utd?
They'll probably have a large batch of youngsters that we don't know too much about that will fetch a decent fee. Even the likes of Gilchrist, Hall & Hutchinson.Yeah that was my point. The problem is they'll get through that this season by selling Gallagher or James, soon their proven home grown players will run out and then can't make pure profit of any player. What happens if they sign duds this season and finish 8th next summer with no home grown talents left ?
Right now they have James, Colwill, Gallagher and Chalobah that are academy products they'd make a decent amount from. Once they're gone, they're going to have to start taking losses on their duds and they will quickly add up. They can get through this summer, they best hope it pays off next season.
Their squad is so bloated with expensive imports on incredibly long contracts there’s zero chance of any more home grown players getting the exposure they need to raise a decent fee once they sell their last few established homegrown players.They'll probably have a large batch of youngsters that we don't know too much about that will fetch a decent fee. Even the likes of Gilchrist, Hall & Hutchinson.
They don't need to play for Chelsea to get "exposure". Look at Hutchinson doing really well at Ipswich or Maatsen doing really well at Dortmund.Their squad is so bloated with expensive imports on incredibly long contracts there’s zero chance of any more home grown players getting the exposure they need to raise a decent fee once they sell their last few established homegrown players.
Sure but there’s no chance of earning the sort of fees you can get for top PL players like Gallagher, James or Mount for someone who’s looked decent in the Championship or Bundesliga.They don't need to play for Chelsea to get "exposure". Look at Hutchinson doing really well at Ipswich or Maatsen doing really well at Dortmund.
There actually more likely to get exposure out on loan.
I think we'd have got more for Gallagher right after his Palace loan than we would now!Sure but there’s no chance of earning the sort of fees you can get for top PL players like Gallagher, James or Mount for someone who’s looked decent in the Championship or Bundesliga.
Think the Maatsen fee will be about 30m. They rejected a 25m bid from Burnley last August so they'd be confident they can get more and he's done well in the Bundesliga by all accounts.Sure but there’s no chance of earning the sort of fees you can get for top PL players like Gallagher, James or Mount for someone who’s looked decent in the Championship or Bundesliga.
He's got a £35 mil release clause (not just for Dortmund). He'll go for that.Think the Maatsen fee will be about 30m. They rejected a 25m bid from Burnley last August so they'd be confident they can get more and he's done well in the Bundesliga by all accounts.
Maatsen will almost certainly get done for the full release clause amount (£35M). He's shown some really good stuff for Dortmund and there's even been some reports of Bayern being after him if Alphonso Davies were to leave. He's still young and on a really low salary so that will help to attract lots of interest. Personally I'd like to keep him but oh well...Think the Maatsen fee will be about 30m. They rejected a 25m bid from Burnley last August so they'd be confident they can get more and he's done well in the Bundesliga by all accounts.
That's not true at all mate. You may not like him as a player but that's far from the truth.I think we'd have got more for Gallagher right after his Palace loan than we would now!
And Mount wasn't some kid we sold, he played nearly 200 times for the club and we offered him an extension.
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At the time of Boehly going mad spending, there were loads saying that it was madness but many Chelsea fans thought it was great and there would be a plan. But clearly there isn’t. It’s coming back to bite. Same at Forest. New owners can’t simply chuck cash around. It has to be done right. I hope SJR is taking notePrepared is the wrong word.
Forced is what they're looking for. Got to sell players who don't already have amortization to clear off.
Without Europe money we're totally fecked for ffp I think.
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There isn't one area it seems where Chelsea actually operates as a normal football club. It is just one loophole or scam after another.It's pretty crazy that they can just sell hotel buildings to another company owned by Boehly to reduce losses.
The plan was CL football with a young squad and a reduced wage bill for the medium term.At the time of Boehly going mad spending, there were loads saying that it was madness but many Chelsea fans thought it was great and there would be a plan. But clearly there isn’t. It’s coming back to bite. Same at Forest. New owners can’t simply chuck cash around. It has to be done right. I hope SJR is taking note
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Only Silva and Gallagher have played significant minutes out of that lot. The rest won't need replacing at all.It's that balancing act for Chelsea now.
Let's say all of Kepa,Lukaku, Silva, Chalobah, Gallagher, Maatsen, Broja all leave.
Who replaces them?
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It won't for EFL and UEFA FFP. So many FFPs it's ridiculous.Hows selling a hotel helping in ffp ? Genuine question
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They'll find buyers for Gallagher. Not so sure on Reece James, he's a fantastic player when fit but the money Chelsea will ask for won't be worth the risk to any team.
You do have to ask the question though. How will they continue to spend when they run out of academy products to sell ?
Lavia will come in for Gallagher yeah but that's still only three CMs so leaves you short with plenty of youth behind that.Only Silva and Gallagher have played significant minutes out of that lot. The rest won't need replacing at all.
If we have most of Lavia, Fofana, James, Carney and Nkunku back, that's more than enough to replace them.
Sure Silva will take some replacing, I just don't agree that we need to replace the 7 players you listed.Lavia will come in for Gallagher yeah but that's still only three CMs so leaves you short with plenty of youth behind that.
Fofana's hardly played a game in two years so bit optimistic to think he can come straight back and lead the defence like Silva does at his best.
That's where the strategy is going wrong a bit...four CBs all in the same age range so they desperately need to get one in who's 27-29 just to lead and be vocal at times when you're under pressure.
However that's not ready a signing you can then flip in 2-3 years so we'll see if Clearlake tweak the strategy.
Disasi is 26.That's where the strategy is going wrong a bit...four CBs all in the same age range so they desperately need to get one in who's 27-29 just to lead and be vocal at times when you're under pressure.
Nobody. He's going nowhere.Who is going to take a gamble on Reece James at the prices they will want?
He is potentially fantastic but he can’t string three games together. With regulations as tight as they are, I can’t see anyone sane going for that gamble…
…so Dalot will have competition for a few games next season then.
He can’t stay fit though, surely if someone stumped up £50 million, they might take it, finances being as they are.Nobody. He's going nowhere.
As you said, nobody that he would agree to go to would be offering the money.He can’t stay fit though, surely if someone stumped up £50 million, they might take it, finances being as they are.
Maybe Madrid fancy a punt on a Carvajal replacement?As you said, nobody that he would agree to go to would be offering the money.
If he was fit, they would be the only club I think he might seriously consider.Maybe Madrid fancy a punt on a Carvajal replacement?
He’s finally had surgery, so let’s at least see if that’s helped his problem before we declare him completely incapable of staying fit.He can’t stay fit though, surely if someone stumped up £50 million, they might take it, finances being as they are.