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He'll get sacked in a year after he pisses off every single one of his bosses
Top, top coach though
Top, top coach though
and then we will appoint another manager and do the same thing over again, as we usually doHopefully he wins the CL with Chelsea and then shit hits the fan after that and it’s downhill from there.
Their DoF or whatever that position is there, really fecks these decisions up.PSG had an elite manager and top striker, and let them both go.
Just goes to show that even with oil money you can make stupid decisions.
Wonder what it is that makes him fall out with everyone. Tactically very good, will be interesting to see how he does in a full season. Right now you'd say he'll have Chelsea right in the mix.He'll get sacked in a year after he pisses off every single one of his bosses
Top, top coach though
Because they generally hire the cream of the crop of coaches. I e Lampard needed years to instill his playing style.I don't get it, how come some of these Chelsea managers don't need years to instill their playing style?
If its the same story where he wins the double I'll take it all day.I feel like I’ve read this book before where the new guy at Chelsea is rimjobbed by everyone then within 18 months he’s getting the severance package and being called a balding cnut fraud, rather than an eyebrow cnut fraud or a wigged cnut fraud like in previous years.
He'll be getting some serious backing this coming summer by the rumor's currently going around. I'd say he's earned the trust of Roman for a whileHe'll get sacked in a year after he pisses off every single one of his bosses
Top, top coach though
Can't see him getting sacked for anything other than performance unfortunately. As I said a few pages back, he isn't a difficult/weird personality like Jose, more like outspoken and direct, and the sports washers didn't like that.He'll get sacked in a year after he pisses off every single one of his bosses
Top, top coach though
I know right, Aguero scores his pen and it's game over. Sterling gets the pen he should have in the second half and good chance City win.Wow, he's replaced Klopp as the Caf poster boy. For now.
Destiny is a b*tchHe’s a bit of a genius. I think Chelsea will be favourites for the league next season if they maintain this consistency. I still think City will win the Champions league - they are destined to this season.
or the red he should have in the first half....I know right, Aguero scores his pen and it's game over. Sterling gets the pen he should have in the second half and good chance City win.
No, he is a genius, as Pochettino before him, but our own SAF was not a good tactician…caf standards I suppose…I know right, Aguero scores his pen and it's game over. Sterling gets the pen he should have in the second half and good chance City win.
Avram Grant, Di Matteo, these guys did the same and the latter won the CL. They’ve got a system in place at Chelsea, like other big clubs, where the ‘head coach’ is part of the managerial machinery rather than being the man on whom everything else is dependent.Because they generally hire the cream of the crop of coaches. I e Lampard needed years to instill his playing style.
I hope Pep overthinks the final now and just confuses his team with random team selections.Hope he didn't he blow his load by winning today.
3rd time's a charm?
Aye like Frank Lampard. Bring him back.and then we will appoint another manager and do the same thing over again, as we usually do
Its like 2 league titles in 10 years buddy! Calm your horses! 1 league title since Jose left (seems like decades ago)and then we will appoint another manager and do the same thing over again, as we usually do
is rimjobbed by everyone
more like a stripperDestiny is a b*tch
every time it goes pete tong, we change it and usually win something at the end of it. Not bad!Its like 2 league titles in 10 years buddy! Calm your horses! 1 league title since Jose left (seems like decades ago)
All Grant did was babysit a great side to being runners ups and Di Mateo led them to the luckiest tournament win in history. If you recall their league form didn't improve at all.Avram Grant, Di Matteo, these guys did the same and the latter won the CL. They’ve got a system in place at Chelsea, like other big clubs, where the ‘head coach’ is part of the managerial machinery rather than being the man on whom everything else is dependent.
We need to build a similar structure, otherwise we’ll always just start from scratch with every manager change.
Fell out with the board in both cases. At Dortmund he was angry they sold key players when he was reportedly told otherwise, and also there are reports that he got extremely pissed with the board for agreeing that the team should play in the CL the day after the bus attack.No, he is a genius, as Pochettino before him, but our own SAF was not a good tactician…caf standards I suppose…
I would just like to know why Tuchel was sacked in his 2 previous jobs, honest question, it never happened to SAF and Guardiola, the 2 genius I have seen on a football bench since I watch football.
Thanks mateFell out with the board in both cases. At Dortmund he was angry they sold key players when he was reportedly told otherwise, and also there are reports that he got extremely pissed with the board for agreeing that the team should play in the CL the day after the bus attack.
At PSG seems to be over squad depth primarily - apparently he fell out with Leonardo because the latter has both pushed out the likes of Thiago Silva, Cavani, and Meunier whilst also selling bright youth prospects, resulting in an extremely top-heavy squad. Leonardo was also reportedly meddling in team selection and training, which led to conflict understandably.
Leonardo is an immense tool to be fair. Back to Tuchel though, he's doing a good job but nothing extra-ordinary in my books. He has a ridiculous team and the only impressive feats are today & FA Cup wins against City. He's also shown to be cumbersome and passive against Leeds, Southampton, Brighton to name a few.Fell out with the board in both cases. At Dortmund he was angry they sold key players when he was reportedly told otherwise, and also there are reports that he got extremely pissed with the board for agreeing that the team should play in the CL the day after the bus attack.
At PSG seems to be over squad depth primarily - apparently he fell out with Leonardo because the latter has both pushed out the likes of Thiago Silva, Cavani, and Meunier whilst also selling bright youth prospects, resulting in an extremely top-heavy squad. Leonardo was also reportedly meddling in team selection and training, which led to conflict understandably.
AnytimeThanks mate
I'm biased obviously but I think this is very harsh. Considering where the team was when he took over (9th and decidedly underdogs vs Atletico Madrid), to be where we are now is a ridiculous turnaround. Especially when the ridiculous schedule and limited training time are factored in - I've been a Tuchel stan for years now but even I wouldn't have dreamt he could have us where we are now given the external and unique challenges of this season.Leonardo is an immense tool to be fair. Back to Tuchel though, he's doing a good job but nothing extra-ordinary in my books. He has a ridiculous team and the only impressive feats are today & FA Cup wins against City. He's also shown to be cumbersome and passive against Leeds, Southampton, Brighton to name a few.
With the quality of players at his disposal, I expect nothing less than a title challenge next summer.
I get where you're coming from, but by Tuchel's standard of management I would expect nothing less than a turnaround in Chelsea form, especially when you consider he can level easier with star players like Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, Silva. I didn't have Chelsea as underdogs to Atletico either, I was expecting them to go through, and Real, well, they are utter shite.I'm biased obviously but I think this is very harsh. Considering where the team was when he took over (9th and decidedly underdogs vs Atletico Madrid), to be where we are now is a ridiculous turnaround. Especially when the ridiculous schedule and limited training time are factored in - I've been a Tuchel stan for years now but even I wouldn't have dreamt he could have us where we are now given the external and unique challenges of this season.
Yes it's very clear that Lampard was hugely underachieving and that Tuchel has a very talented squad to work with - but the more or less overnight turnaround he's managed is absurd.
Ah I see! I think your position is perfectly reasonable even if we disagree a bit. Of the matches you mentioned, I'd agree that the Southampton match was quite poor but Tuchel was still assessing the players at that point - case in point Abraham starting. The Leeds game was a bit mad all things considered and for me we were a bit unlucky to not win; would have a hard time holding that up as a match where Tuchel got it completely wrong personally. And the Brighton game I'd argue should be completely written off given the circumstances around the game vis a vis the ESL - yes it was a lifeless lethargic performance but I don't think that can be held against Tuchel.I get where you're coming from, but by Tuchel's standard of management I would expect nothing less than a turnaround in Chelsea form, especially when you consider he can level easier with star players like Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, Silva. I didn't have Chelsea as underdogs to Atletico either, I was expecting them to go through, and Real, well, they are utter shite.
Tuchel's impact reminds me of Conte (albeit midway through the season), he's played a system focusing on the secure defence first and one that is built on ruthlessness. It's an efficient way to make a quick impact and I think that's commendable. But there are certainly games where I think, really? He should be doing better with the fire power he has. I think my criticism of him (and why I didn't want him at United) is I don't find him as direct as he should be, which made him suffer against the much lesser teams in my previous post.
There's a lot made out of Tuchel because he's 1) beaten Pep twice and 2) in the CL final. But his CL final run isn't that impressive when you consider how epically shite Atletico and Real are. And he's beaten Pep which is great but City aren't unbeatable. We've done it and worn the t-shirt a few times but Ole won't get anywhere near the level of praise.
I'm not ruling him out by the way, I just want to see where he goes next season with this. He's got such a silly amount of firepower with Chelsea, its going to be interesting to see how they fare when we actually strengthen to our level and he competes alongside us + City/Liverpool. That's when his style will be really assessed, will he be direct enough against the lower sides? Or will his quick possession based football fall short.
So who did you want us to beat in the run in to the champions league final to make it impressive?.I get where you're coming from, but by Tuchel's standard of management I would expect nothing less than a turnaround in Chelsea form, especially when you consider he can level easier with star players like Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, Silva. I didn't have Chelsea as underdogs to Atletico either, I was expecting them to go through, and Real, well, they are utter shite.
Tuchel's impact reminds me of Conte (albeit midway through the season), he's played a system focusing on the secure defence first and one that is built on ruthlessness. It's an efficient way to make a quick impact and I think that's commendable. But there are certainly games where I think, really? He should be doing better with the fire power he has. I think my criticism of him (and why I didn't want him at United) is I don't find him as direct as he should be, which made him suffer against the much lesser teams in my previous post.
There's a lot made out of Tuchel because he's 1) beaten Pep twice and 2) in the CL final. But his CL final run isn't that impressive when you consider how epically shite Atletico and Real are. And he's beaten Pep which is great but City aren't unbeatable. We've done it and worn the t-shirt a few times but Ole won't get anywhere near the level of praise.
I'm not ruling him out by the way, I just want to see where he goes next season with this. He's got such a silly amount of firepower with Chelsea, its going to be interesting to see how they fare when we actually strengthen to our level and he competes alongside us + City/Liverpool. That's when his style will be really assessed, will he be direct enough against the lower sides? Or will his quick possession based football fall short.
@RedfrogFell out with the board in both cases. At Dortmund he was angry they sold key players when he was reportedly told otherwise, and also there are reports that he got extremely pissed with the board for agreeing that the team should play in the CL the day after the bus attack.
At PSG seems to be over squad depth primarily - apparently he fell out with Leonardo because the latter has both pushed out the likes of Thiago Silva, Cavani, and Meunier whilst also selling bright youth prospects, resulting in an extremely top-heavy squad. Leonardo was also reportedly meddling in team selection and training, which led to conflict understandably.
PSG, Bayern or City. With the squad Chelsea have, that should be their relative level. They were just fortunate to be on the other side, so it's now just a 90 minute takes all against City.So who did you want us to beat in the run in to the champions league final to make it impressive?.