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He got a lenient six month ban because he admitted to cheating. If it turns out he has cheated on other occasions (which of course he has, someone who has been caught twice has cheated tons of times), then he hasn't been honest and he'll get the normal punishment instead. And they did deal with it themselves, the only reason we know about the ban is because Niemann told us.
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Why did he resign... Did his anal beads go haywire?
Understandable. Position was lost.
If it's under investigation he actually cannot speak.
What a sore loser. Magnus is being a petulant child. You can't just accuse someone of cheating without a shred of evidence..
The distinction between online cheating and OTB cheating is a big one in people's minds, I think. Partly because they think it's more serious, partly because they think it's a lot more difficult to actually do. And also maybe because a lot of casual chess fans have cheated online themselves in one way or another.
Hasn’t he admitted to cheating?
Yeah but this tournament is online. I don't like what Carlsen is doing (unless he's been told by FIDE / legal not to speak), but the support for a known cheater baffles me.
Yeah but I think he's under legal advice not to say anything for now. So unfortunately it's not that simple as the evidence will have to be given through the right channels.
He cheated online as a 16 year old living alone at the height of pandemic lockdown just to pump his rating - you don't have to like him but it's pretty understandable that people can distinguish that from e.g. cheating at a OTB event with huge prize money. There's a reason why our justice systems are also more lenient with regards to underage criminals.
So I guess I should have cheated to pump my rating up and maybe made 2000 and had chess as a career when I was a kid? Nah that's bullshit. If you play as a professional, it can and should be held against you..
Well a) that wouldn't be enough by far and b) I wouldn't hold it against you if you afterwards perform at this level all by yourself, yes.
Buddy I've playd the likes of Humpy and Pragg over time and have played a few people who have made it pro. I know what it takes. Would I have made a GM? Hell no but an IM / NM probably.
Your premise is that he is where he is because he cheated. If that's the case, yes bin him. But that has by no means be proven to be correct.
Not really a like for like comparison. Performance enhancing drugs don't eliminate all competition, they're just an advantage. Using an engine during a chess game is as good as an invincible hack. They're both very poor form but cheating in chess is a grave threat to the expansion of the game and does deserve harsh punishment when proven.
In addition to this @Kasper using an engine to get rated higher means you get more invites etc. which allow you to improve further. It's not nearly as simple as you are making it out to be.
This topic is going on my check list, mate.
There's no difference. I play pro league of legends and people that have cheated at those ages always remain shady. My 2 cents. I don't hate cheaters btw, they pay my bills.
Innocent until proven guilty was a thing last I checked?
I doubt he has any evidence tbh if he did he wouldn't be pulling stunts like these.
Probably not hard evidence. It's very hard to have hard evidence. Which is one of the big problems chess is facing, because once you are caught online where the algorithmic methods of detection are believed to be fairly certain then it's clear the top players are not going to trust you any longer in any format. You have already proven to be untrustworthy and a bad sport, the type of individual that may be looking for exploits.
He's 19 now, it's not exactly ancient history. He's also done it at least twice, with a few years in between. But it's very likely he did it a lot more.
But he was "proven guilty" only a few years ago. Besides, that's a thing in the criminal justice system. Tournament organizers (or online platforms) only have to think it's more likely that he cheated than not cheated for them to decide not to let him participate.
