Was just refuting the statement where you implied that Chinese people are immune to betting. cy@~
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Further research, apparently there does exist a national lottery...only in Hong Kong, Macau and Shanghai...apparently.
That's great, gambling is despicable, and casinos made it clear they rig the system that will only benefit them at the end.
The gambling industry is also crippling Macau in a way, because there is little diversity on other kinds of businesses.
The one lottery there at least has reached 95% of the country....so it's pretty widespread.
Gambling isnt despicable
It is when it's causing problems.
You simply have no idea what you are talking about. I've lived in China for the past 20 yrs (last 17 yrs in Shanghai) and gambling is huge here, they are inveterate gamblers. Virtually every mahjong game, and what they call poker (but isn't), is for money, often huge sums. In public mahjong/poker houses they use plastic markers in lieu of money and pay up their debts later. My driver once lost my car as payment for his gambling debts (we got it back in the end).
You do know Macau is the gambling centre of the world don't you ? Their annual take dwarfs that of Vegas !
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And this is BS too because there are no casinos in Shenyang and none in fact in Mainland China. I'd stop now if I were you .... I can't see your head any more the hole you're digging is so deep.
Ah okay, so what's this then? Oh, that's right. A casino. Nobody mentioned it being anything legal.
Like I said earlier, Mahjong is the game played by the lower class. Yeah, money does get exchanged. I fecking play it everytime I go back. Doesn't mean I'm a gambler. You are aware that in most of these Mahjong dens the players all know each other and are close friends betting on anything less than 100 yuan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_China
Gambling in China is officially illegal under Chinese law.[1]
Yah, china are clearly a massive gambling nation.
I also find it hilarious how the examples used are Macau, Hongkong, Britain and Shenyang, two of which were former western colonies and the most westernized city in the whole of the country.
You tell me that the 50% of rural farmers in China are avid gamblers. I dare you.
Doubtful. Given half the country doesn't even have access to the grid yet and are still running off gas canisters.
Are you for real ? You do know that casinos are illegal in China ... but MAHJONG PARLORS ARE NOT !! You are not worth the effort. Ni jiushi yige feichang dade ben dan.
Ah okay, so what's this then? Oh, that's right. A casino. Nobody mentioned it being anything legal.
Like I said earlier, Mahjong is the game played by the lower class. Yeah, money does get exchanged. I fecking play it everytime I go back. Doesn't mean I'm a gambler. You are aware that in most of these Mahjong dens the players all know each other and are close friends betting on anything less than 100 yuan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_China
Gambling in China is officially illegal under Chinese law.[1]
Yah, china are clearly a massive gambling nation.
I also find it hilarious how the examples used are Macau, Hongkong, Britain and Shenyang, two of which were former western colonies and the most westernized city in the whole of the country.
You tell me that the 50% of rural farmers in China are avid gamblers. I dare you.
China has an urbanisation of 60% ... you were saying ?
Well it's the figure given by the lottery themselves.
Well actually, they are. I witnessed a raid by police onto them once. They're legal as long as any non-negilible amount is not swapping hands.
And seriously, we're going down this route? You're seriously trying to insult someone in Pinyin who is fluent in both the phonetic system and the character system?
闭嘴，你不知道你的地位。回到你的狗窝你没用的狗屁王八蛋.
Semantics. 60% is roughly around half. And places like Xinmin, for example, which have a population of over 100,000 still relies hugely on gas canisters.
NO CASINOS are NOT legal FFS. Mahjong parlors are.
Yes I wanted to see if you were for real or not. At least we now know that we are both genuine.
BTW for those who want to know what was said : I told him he is a stupid egg (a bit of a slight in China) whereas he replied with something much much stronger, in fact probably a banning offence.
And not semantics. That is only the pure urbanisation figure, when you take the rural villages/towns that have mains electric then the figure is well over 85%. You still haven't got a clue.
Sources?
I can tell you right now from the former vice deputy of Liaoning that as of 2009 less than 46% of LiaoNing Province had been attatched to the grid.
I just fecking said that Casino's are not legal, and I said that Mahjong parlors were. Are you blind?
He called me a 'extremely big dumb egg' if we're doing a literal translation and I told him to stfu and called him a sob.
Since when are we talking about 50% of farmers all of a sudden? China may still be largely agricultural in terms of land but most people now live in cities.
Of the 28 million visitors to Macau each year, more than half come from the Mainland.
Really? Gambling is huge in Asia. The turnover in Macau is several times bigger than in Vegas and its a well known fact that the Asian gambling market is enormous.bollocks
First of all there is a HUGE anti-gambling culture in China. People who go to Casino's and gambling dens are seen as lower class people.
Second of all, 1 billion in one betting office. yeah sure.
It's seriously misleading. For example, We'll use Xinmin as an example again. It's classed as Urban but realistically it's got a large town surrounded by hundreds of farms. Yet all these farms are technically part of Xinmin and therefore urban.
Unless the values my parents taught me are not that of a traditional Chinese families (which would surprise me immensely, given how traditional my parents are), this should not be true.
Well Googled. And FYI Liaoning is just a middling province in China with a small population so that changes nothing !
The question is not am I blind but how good is your memory ? Go back to post #54 and then let's see if you come out with that shit just above again.
I don't trust most of your stories. For a proper betting company to even consider a massive bet, they must do some sort of check before hand.
It has, I've been there and it's ridiculous how many casinos they have. There are even massage parlors where you can get a rimjob adjacent to the casinot, my friend tried one of 'em.
Asians fecking love to gamble though. Everytime I've been to a casino, regardless of city/country, it's been packed with Asians.
Are you seriously functionally deficient?
I said that Marjong Parlors are strictly speaking legal as long as any non-negible amounts of money does not exchange hands.
'For my information', Liaoning has one of the highest human development indexes in the whole of the country and Shenyang is in the top 10 populous chinese cities.
Basically, I'm arguing with a guy who's googling his information. Right well, that says it all really.
Everything from the Internet must be true :S There is no betting company willing to take such a large position on one bet, even if they had unusually large bets on Iran too.
Yeah I thought that too. But maybe in america.....
Where do you draw the line then? Insurance is in theory gambling too. You're paying an annual premium (bet) on your house burning down. Except you don't (I assume) want to win the bet.
That is my bad .. I meant to say Mahjong Parlours are .. but I was slightly wound up at the time !
Liaoning (15th most populous province) has a population of 44 million ... out of 1.7 billion (now ask me why it's 1.7 and not 1.4) so yeah a real massive province. And Shenyang (been there a number of times - massive market) is only 6m+ or 1/4 of the size of Shanghai and the 13th most populous city in China (not Top 10) by Urban area (11th if you include all built-up areas - thanks Wiki).
What is the population of Shanghai ? What is the capital of Zhejiang ? What is the main industry of Wenzhou (my wife's home town) ? Don't know ? Of course not - so if you want ACCURATE statistics to back up a position then you need accurate facts, rather than just make wild guesses such as ....... Chinese don't gamble ! There is no lottery in China ! Chinese look down on those that gamble ! Liaoning is a humongous province ! Shenyang is one of the Top Ten largest cities in China (when it's not) !
04.30 in the morning and I can't be arsed debating with someone who makes spurious claims based on pure fiction any more, so I'm off to bed.
There are two major state run lotteries in China, Sports Lottery and Welfare Lottery, as well as many other minor ones.
I'm not accusing gambling in itself is a problem. Socially Macau is in a wreck especially for guys at my age. Casino jobs do pay well, but it has created a monopoly in the labour force. Also, the tax income is definitely huge, but citizens seldom reap the benefit. Those money are not properly invested as well. Traffic is a pain in the arse. The city is under huge amount of pressure as well given the amount of tourists coming in everyday.
I mean, when one day the industry collapses Macau is done. The government have yet to develop any other kind of industry to diversify the economy.
Every single Casino ive been to has a range of stores, restorants, night clubs and fast food joints etc etc..
So your whole diversity of business (whatever that means) doesnt hold up.
Interesting, so you know more than someone who works in the gambling industry in China.
bollocks
First of all there is a HUGE anti-gambling culture in China. People who go to Casino's and gambling dens are seen as lower class people.
Second of all, 1 billion in one betting office. yeah sure.
You are aware you're not the only Chinese in this forum right?
Admittedly, you are probably not as low class as the rest of us. Every single casino I've been to is loaded with madarin speaking "mainland" Chinese. Mahjong is also gambling btw.
Gambling is officially illegal but then so is prostitution. Are you going to start telling us there's a HUGE anti-prostitution culture in China too?
I would guess the "give me X days to get the money" quote means he borrowed money from loan sharks... And he can't see how he'll get the money back nor want to face the consequences of telling the sharks he can't repay them.
Not sure it's a banning offence but for the mods, literal translation:
"Shut up, you don't know your place. Go back to your kennel you useless "dog fart" bastard"
The values are great and I hope you follow them. However there's evidence a lot of Chinese don't.
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Incidently, I just want to point out that sports betting is NOT illegal in China:
http://www.sporttery.cn/football/index.html
Shitty odds, but very much legal and sanctioned by the CCP.
http://www.sporttery.cn/football/index.html
Shitty odds, but very much legal and sanctioned by the CCP.