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Yeah adex but an owner investing into infrastructure upgrades isn’t the same as inflated opex injections, as you’re aware! Sorry, my inner accountant popping outThis is not organic by any means (the bolded).
Yeah adex but an owner investing into infrastructure upgrades isn’t the same as inflated opex injections, as you’re aware! Sorry, my inner accountant popping outThis is not organic by any means (the bolded).
You're conflating foreign owners with a lot of money with cheating.They've been calling them cheats and saying how hollow their success is for years, but as soon as there was opportunity to join them they couldn't drop their knickers quick enough.
Pretty dim post wasn't it.Are you suggesting they’re all the same?
Mate, people be wild’in up in this place about everything outside of Europe, claiming corruption when the competitions and leagues that are being corrupted are in western countries and run by western stakeholders. So who’s really corrupt? The people taking advantage of a corrupt system or the people taking the money?Pretty dim post wasn't it.
Seemingly unable to understand that United have a million times more fans, real sponsorships and world wide reach and don't actually need to fake or falsify any mumbers.
They just need an owner to care about the on pitch action and not sucker out £1billion every 10-15 years in repayments and dividends.
I’m pretty dubious that that is genuinely all Utd fans would expect from new Qatari owners. Do you not think that there is an underlying expectation due to observations of PSG, Newcastle, City, that Utd would do more than simply stop paying dividends to the Glazers?Pretty dim post wasn't it.
Seemingly unable to understand that United have a million times more fans, real sponsorships and world wide reach and don't actually need to fake or falsify any mumbers.
They just need an owner to care about the on pitch action and not sucker out £1billion every 10-15 years in repayments and dividends.
We'd go bigger in the transfer market, and we'd even pretend to look at the ground etc.I’m pretty dubious that that is genuinely all Utd fans would expect from new Qatari owners. Do you not think that there is an underlying expectation due to observations of PSG, Newcastle, City, that Utd would do more than simply stop paying dividends to the Glazers?
You might not engineer sponsorship deals specifically. That was the only way City could catch up with the biggest clubs, rightly or wrongly.We'd go bigger in the transfer market, and we'd even pretend to look at the ground etc.
Neither would need us engineering "sponsorship" deals.
Wrong, the people getting a big fat cut of the pie don’t care but normal decent people who are fed up of corruption, cheating and sporrs washing do care. If everyone just resigns themselves ronit and no one challwny it then corruption just becomes accepted and grows.When are you lads going to realise that no one cares that their sponsors don’t exist because everyone is getting a big fat cut of the pie?
The only reason they’re being investigated in the first place is because other teams from the league demanded it.
There is barely any normal decent people up there in positions of power, that's why City got away with it before against UEFA, PL officials aren't any different.Wrong, the people getting a big fat cut of the pie don’t care but normal decent people who are fed up of corruption, cheating and sporrs washing do care. If everyone just resigns themselves ronit and no one challwny it then corruption just becomes accepted and grows.
I am indeedThere is barely any normal decent people up there in positions of power, that's why City got away with it before against UEFA, PL officials aren't any different.
All the suits that allowed Abu Dhabi to buy City knew what they were doing.
There is barely any 'decent people' between the ones who are in charge of punishing City, you are thinking about blokes who aren't in charge of anything.
Welcome to the world of business. We currently live in the golden age of corruption, and it's in your face corruption, they're not even subtle about it anymore.Wrong, the people getting a big fat cut of the pie don’t care but normal decent people who are fed up of corruption, cheating and sporrs washing do care. If everyone just resigns themselves ronit and no one challwny it then corruption just becomes accepted and grows.
So trueWelcome to the world of business. We currently live in the golden age of corruption, and it's in your face corruption, they're not even subtle about it anymore.
Shock! Horror! Gobsmack! City involved with dodgy organisations? Surely not!Tweet
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Will anything ever be done about it? Probably not.Tweet
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Add it to the list of things FIFA and UEFA will look the other way on. I'm not stupid to think there will ever be zero shenanigans at the highest level of sports (or any level for that matter) - but there is a difference between relatively minor infractions and egregious/stick it up your ass levels of corruption. The amount of smoke in the case of a City appears to be mind boggling.Tweet
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United to be fair to the club are way behind where they could have been in terms of sponsorships not having the glazers.You might not engineer sponsorship deals specifically. That was the only way City could catch up with the biggest clubs, rightly or wrongly.
According to the MEN in October, Utd have paid out £155m in dividends in the last 7 years. That’s around £22m a season. I have to admit I thought it was significantly more than that. Debt repayments are more confusing (to me anyway, I’m thick as), because if a new owner comes in and instantly pays off half a billion of debt then that would seem like a huge injection of cash that didn’t come from natural turnover. Much like City did after the takeover.
It's clear to me that those organisations are borderline criminal cartels that under the banner of football allow all sort of shady dealings to take place unchecked.Add it to the list of things FIFA and UEFA will look the other way on. I'm not stupid to think there will ever be zero shenanigans at the highest level of sports (or any level for that matter) - but there is a difference between relatively minor infractions and egregious/stick it up your ass levels of corruption. The amount of smoke in the case of a City appears to be mind boggling.
How is this any different from Amway sponsoring NBA arenas in the USA? This is a significant step up for City in the sense that pyramid scheme or not, this is a company that actually exists and not an entity created out of thin air and hidden behind 100 different offshore accounts as a means for their owners to dump money into them.Tweet
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Every football pundit kiss $hittys ass on tv when we all know how fake and shady the club is, makes me want to vomit.But but they're a perfectly run club.
The club was debt free until the Glazers borrowed against it to buy the club and immediately transferred the debt onto the club. If/when they leave the club will be free of their debt. The q would be if the new owners keep it that way.You might not engineer sponsorship deals specifically. That was the only way City could catch up with the biggest clubs, rightly or wrongly.
According to the MEN in October, Utd have paid out £155m in dividends in the last 7 years. That’s around £22m a season. I have to admit I thought it was significantly more than that. Debt repayments are more confusing (to me anyway, I’m thick as), because if a new owner comes in and instantly pays off half a billion of debt then that would seem like a huge injection of cash that didn’t come from natural turnover. Much like City did after the takeover.
Amway is multilevel marketing, not a pyramid scheme, and they aren’t involved with human trafficking.How is this any different from Amway sponsoring NBA arenas in the USA? This is a significant step up for City in the sense that pyramid scheme or not, this is a company that actually exists and not an entity created out of thin air and hidden behind 100 different offshore accounts as a means for their owners to dump money into them.
That's like saying Soviet Russia was communist, not corrupt.Amway is multilevel marketing, not a pyramid scheme, and they aren’t involved with human trafficking.
It’s like saying you don’t know what you’re talking about.That's like saying Soviet Russia was communist, not corrupt.
sure comrade!It’s like saying you don’t know what you’re talking about.