Sancho playing on the right will mean Greenwood will move to the middle though, won't it?
There's only so many starting spots, I'm curious as to how many Man United fans would have Martial in their starting lineups.
Courtois on Martial: "He's not a Major Player"
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There's only so many starting spots, I'm curious as to how many Man United fans would have Martial in their starting lineups.
And nothing says that Greenwood will win the role. You didn't ask whether Martial was an unmovable starter but if he would get a decent chance eveyone is going to get a decent chance and the better performer will play. Or maybe I totally misunderstood your point?
Of course there's no such thing as "and unmovable starter". I'm not making a point, I'm asking a question as I know less about who is likely to start for you.
I guess I have two questions, do you think Martial starts the first game of the season if everyone was fit? Do you want him to?
About 90% of this thread is people agreeing with Courtoius, what’s strange is the fact that some of our so called fans seemingly want one of our own players to get even more abuse.
What did Martial do to be called an idiot?
If his finishing comes back then I would expect him to start because he has a good technical relationship with Rashford and I expect the same with Sancho. I don't really care about who starts, as long as they perform well and suit the team.
Courtois right, Martial is comfortably in the top 5 most overrated players in the world right now
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That's surprising because no one seems to rate him that highly?
Maybe it's just a selection of United fans then? But he seems to have a serious cult following on social media
I read this earlier and didnt see the video. They way it was written made it sound like they were rolling around the floor laughing.
Everybody seems to be having a go at Courtois for "randomly calling out Martial" but that's not what happened is it?
They were having a conversation about big players who aren't at the Euros. Someone mentioned Martial and Courtois merely dismissed him as not a big player.
It's a bit like seeing someone mention Craig Bellamy in one of those monthly threads about who the greatest strikers in Prem history are. You'd read it, have a chuckle and then dismiss it before moving on to the serious names.
I don't really understand how it's generated enough fuss for 4 pages.
They were having a conversation about big players who aren't at the Euros. Someone mentioned Martial and Courtois merely dismissed him as not a big player.
It's a bit like seeing someone mention Craig Bellamy in one of those monthly threads about who the greatest strikers in Prem history are. You'd read it, have a chuckle and then dismiss it before moving on to the serious names.
I don't really understand how it's generated enough fuss for 4 pages.
Martial is not widely rated as far as I can see whether we are talking about social media or real life.
Here you go, relevant part at 2:14. Not sure how much it will help you if you don't speak Dutch (or French, subtitles), but you can at least gauge the atmosphere is pretty casual.
For whatever it's worth, in my opinion: much ado about nothing.
A throwaway comment during a silly little quiz.
He’s not, but some people seem to lose all rationality when they see someone say something even slightly positive about him.
I think that debate peaked when people wanted Mourinho sacked instead of Martial sold because Martial would then go on to become our Mo Salah or Kevin De Bryne. There's still a small section of people who believe Solskajer is using him wrong and a 'better' manager would get more out of him. It's a bit weird.
People wanted Mourinho sacked before Martial because Mourinho was an actual problem for the club while Martial is just a player that is not as good as we hoped.
On this forum he seems to be public enemy number one these days, the number of people defending him is a tiny minority.
Sanchez was also supposed to play on the right.
I'm not a fan of Martial's, but if Euro 2020 had been held in 2020 then Martial probably would have been on France's side based on his performances at the end of the season. Unfortunately I think that's as good as we will see from Martial at United which means he will be an expensive 2nd or 3rd string forward for another year or two.
Yeah I think it's definitely gone that way since this season really.
I think it was around the same time but there was even a Martial FC thread and some other shit name for people who supported Jose's decision to sell him.
Martial FC has never been a serious thing, it was posters wumming the part of the fanbase who consistently ripped into Martial.
If Sancho doesn't then Rashford should start worrying.
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What is so threadworthy about this? Martial is incredibly inconsistent and his track record with France is so poor. I'll be surprised if he was called up considering they have so much attacking talent.
We're not talking about Rashford though, are we?
Courtois has been class for Madrid so far. Easily one of their best players last season.
Martial is the butt of a lot of jokes and criticism recently. Both within the Manchester United fan bubble and out. I really really do hope he has a mega season this year.
You weren't part of the conversation at all while Rashford and his potential early absence was, so we were definitely talking about Rashford, Martial and all the attackers.
No, it means Greenwood would move to the bench.
Cavani is our first choice CF. Whether Martial or Greenwood is the 2nd choice, remains to be seen. When Martial was fit, Ole preferred him in the middle, for his better hold up play.
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If he had made this comments a year back, a lot of the reactions would have been very different, as Martial was coming off a 35G+A season. To say that player is not a "major player" would have been laughed off. But football moves at a very quick pace. Memories are short(rightly).
Who are the major players in our squad btw? Maguire, Bruno, Shaw for sure. Cavani and Rashford arguably. Thinking in this terms you realise how its not really a big deal. Before this one his and Rashford career have been very similar, and most would deservedly consider Rashford a "major player" a year back.
Who are the major players in our squad btw? Maguire, Bruno, Shaw for sure. Cavani and Rashford arguably. Thinking in this terms you realise how its not really a big deal. Before this one his and Rashford career have been very similar, and most would deservedly consider Rashford a "major player" a year back.
How is Cavani "arguably" ? He has been one of the best strikers in modern football in the last decade or so.
Because he is not in his prime, and his playing time needs to be managed. Its not that I dont rate him, I think he is brilliant.
Some mental gymnastics to reach this conclusion.
I'll argue that even at this age he's still a major player, shown by his performance on the pitch. Last season was difficult at the start because of the quarantine then his stupid ban by FA, which all hampered the number of games he played. I think he'll play a lot next year.
He isn’t good enough for a club like ours, on form he’s brilliant but it just isn’t enough, interesting to see how many of those games he’s played as a main striker for us though.
But the main point is about Martial, just because you like to shoehorn Rahsford in every discussion of Martial, doesn't mean that the conversation has to be diluted so much.
Rashford and Sancho will be the future of our club, Martial - probably not so much.
Martial's despised by about 80% of the caf yet still gets called overrated. 
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