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It’s a strange take he has. Overly criticising Ronaldo rather than taking issue with how Greenwood, Rashford, Martial and Cavani have all been letting us down.I bet you felt sick each time he scored last night.
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It’s a strange take he has. Overly criticising Ronaldo rather than taking issue with how Greenwood, Rashford, Martial and Cavani have all been letting us down.I bet you felt sick each time he scored last night.
I’d say just ignore such nonsense, I’m just enjoying every second of Ronaldo in a United shirt again. Savour it, he’s only here for MAXIMUM another season. The naysayers will get it their way soon enough.It’s a strange take he has. Overly criticising Ronaldo rather than taking issue with how Greenwood, Rashford, Martial and Cavani have all been letting us down.
First off, lots of people post who aren't Utd fans. Second, there's alot of non-constructive criticism on Refcafe everywhere about everyone, so I'm not sure why you'd think that.People will go to extreme lengths to win an argument on the Internet. I can't imagine that any United fan really has an issue with him, beyond constructive criticism of course, but this is an ugly forum nowadays and everyone connected to the club is going to get it from certain quarters.
Well I guess maybe because Ronaldo has always been held in unreal high standard, therefore if he isn't the best anymore, many would interpret this as "bad" season. I think its fair to say the likes of Lewandowksi, Benzema, Salah are all having clearly better season this season, so you get the idea.Ronaldo isn't having a good season by his standards but he is definitively not having a poor season.
The problem is that no one in attack is stepping up when he isn't on form.
You want to drop Ronaldo, ok, but who will replace him?
Who deserves to win a place in the starting XI more than him at the moment?
BTW he is the 2nd best scorer of the PL now, with less games played than other players around his position.
In the CL he is 6 in 6.
How is this a bad season in absolute terms?
Next? When was the first?Maguire delivers his next defensive masterclass.
Being one of our greatest ever players does though.As I’ve said before I can’t wait for Ronaldo to leave for a number of reasons but first and foremost so I don’t have to put up with the fanboy nonsense from supposed United fans.
And no, one hat trick does not change that.
Did we cancel the signing of a young striker to get Ronaldo?Well yes it has been disastrous as he has barely even been good enough to keep us in the top four hunt and we went backwards signing him rather than a younger player like Vlahovic we could actually rely on every match.
ThisWhat are you on about ? Why would praise for a player offend me ? Did I even say that ? This is just the sort of stupidity I’m talking about.
The bulk of our players and club as a whole deserve to be criticized regularly. Ronaldo included. Let’s not pretend he hasn’t been a disaster of a signing.
You don't get to tell me how to address peopleWhatever you think of him, you don't get to call him boy
Yeah, didn't you hear? The club had lined up Haaland, Vlahovic AND Freddy Adu but ditched them to get Ronaldo.Did we cancel the signing of a young striker to get Ronaldo?
A goal every 160 minutes is decent for a team built around him but also it isn’t particularly special - Salah, Mahrez, Jota, Vardy, Sterling and Smith-Rowe are all better for example. And it’s been a strange season, Ronaldo has scored 6 of his 12 league goals against Newcastle and Spurs, he hasn’t scored in 16 of his 24 games, in anything from average to dreadful performances.Ronaldo isn't having a good season by his standards but he is definitively not having a poor season.
The problem is that no one in attack is stepping up when he isn't on form.
You want to drop Ronaldo, ok, but who will replace him?
Who deserves to win a place in the starting XI more than him at the moment?
BTW he is the 2nd best scorer of the PL now, with less games played than other players around his position.
In the CL he is 6 in 6.
How is this a bad season in absolute terms?
@United in sinRonaldo's the problem... Viva Ronadloooooooo
Ronaldo is finished, united are disjointed, the two are not mutually exclusive
I enjoyed Ronaldo's performance against Spurs and celebrated every goal as if it was 2007/08 all over again but my overall thoughts remain the same.@United in sin
Any revised thoughts following your contributions in this thread ?
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/cristiano-ronaldo-out.468976/page-5#post-28551235
It might be a bit strong to say hate, but I don't think its too far off.Where are you seeing hate? Any examples? I’ve seen nothing even remotely hateful posted about him. Lots of opinions that he was a bad signing, who creates more problems than he solves. That’s not the same thing as hate. Not even close to it.
The only negativity I’m seeing is aimed at the decision to sign him, rather than him as a player or individual. At worst, people bring up his age and how he’s not the player he used to be (which is basically just stating facts) He’s not even getting a tiny fraction of the personal abuse that at least half our first team have been getting throughout this season. Compare this thread to the animosity in the Maguire, Pogba, Rashford, Shaw or AWB threads. Chalk and cheese. If anything Ronaldo is the least openly hated player in our squad right now.It might be a bit strong to say hate, but I don't think its too far off.
The constant negativity from some seems to be overwhelming despite his achievements this season (See my original post)
The amount of blame leveled his way is unwarranted.
I've seen worse than that.The only negativity I’m seeing is aimed at the decision to sign him, rather than him as a player or individual. At worst, people bring up his age and how he’s not the player he used to be (which is basically just stating facts) He’s not even getting a tiny fraction of the personal abuse that at least half our first team have been getting throughout this season. Compare this thread to the animosity in the Maguire, Pogba, Rashford, Shaw or AWB threads. Chalk and cheese. If anything Ronaldo is the least openly hated player in our squad right now.
That’s exactly that. And he’s gonna be praying that he doesn’t score for every game for the rest of the season.I bet you felt sick each time he scored last night.
What are you on about?@United in sin
Any revised thoughts following your contributions in this thread ?
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/cristiano-ronaldo-out.468976/page-5#post-28551235
What does it look like i'm on about ? Read the post.What are you on about?
With vicious personal abuse like that I can see why people are worried about all the hate…I've seen worse than that.
He's been repeatedly blamed for Bruno and Rashford's form. Blamed for some kind of disharmony in the squad. Blamed for us not signing a younger striker.
You said ‘great game today!’, hardly a balanced assessment when you’ve produced 20+ posts slating him rather harshly. You surely can’t be surprised at getting called out after your campaign against him either.He had a great game and I acknowledged that it was a masterclass. What more the feck do you want? Would it be mature of me to tag you if he has a shit game against Atletico or Liverpool?
I still think he's done at the top and that doesn't mean he doesn't have it in him to pull off a performance like that every once in a while but we need to look to the future.
He'll be 38 next season and will be an even bigger issue in my eyes under a manager who demands as much if not more than Ragnick.
It's harsh to blame him for their form but I find it hard to believe anyone can say with a straight face that Bruno hasn't been affected by Ronaldo's presence.I've seen worse than that.
He's been repeatedly blamed for Bruno and Rashford's form. Blamed for some kind of disharmony in the squad. Blamed for us not signing a younger striker.
You said ‘great game today!’, hardly a balanced assessment when you’ve produced 20+ posts slating him rather harshly. You surely can’t be surprised at getting called out after your campaign against him either.
It really is quite special.With vicious personal abuse like that I can see why people are worried about all the hate…
Tired enough of your awful take posts, especially on this thread to not be bothered to go through and read all your postings individually. You come across pretty angry, hope the result yesterday put a smile on your face.I also said in two other posts (one was in the Fred thread) that he gave a masterclass. Give the fvck over dude, and check my post history next time you decide to 'call me out'. Campaign my ass
Sense! I can see why you've been named poster of the year not once but twiceWith vicious personal abuse like that I can see why people are worried about all the hate…
.Tired enough of your awful take posts, especially on this thread to not be bothered to go through and read all your postings individually. You come across pretty angry, hope the result yesterday put a smile on your face.
But hey, at least there was acknowledgement of the game he had yesterday. Lots of others simply disappeared. So at least I commend United in sin for that. Maybe the game he had was meritory of a bit more praise but I'll take some praise from people pounding him week in, week out, rather than none. At the very least, it's something.Tired enough of your awful take posts, especially on this thread to not be bothered to go through and read all your postings individually. You come across pretty angry, hope the result yesterday put a smile on your face.
I can say it with a straight face. And the only reason Bruno was better is because we had no attack plan under Ole. Just counter and do what ever the feck you want. Now that we actually have to hold on the ball and attack as team with a plan he is obviously not as good. Nothing to do with Ronaldo.It's harsh to blame him for their form but I find it hard to believe anyone can say with a straight face that Bruno hasn't been affected by Ronaldo's presence.
Bruno was the leading man in attack before Ronaldo's return.
To be fair I hadn’t earmarked who all of the haters were, but yeah that is something. The thing about agendas is they don’t go away so they’ll all be back if he doesn’t score for a couple of games.But hey, at least there was acknowledgement of the game he had yesterday. Lots of others simply disappeared. So at least I commend United in sin for that. Maybe the game he had was meritory of a bit more praise but I'll take some praise from people pounding him week in, week out, rather than none. At the very least, it's something.
Edit: not agreeing or disagreeing with you, just making a side note here
Not sure about those saying he's getting hate.With vicious personal abuse like that I can see why people are worried about all the hate…
For once, sense. No striker in the world would have scored more for us with the way the team around him has played all season.Give Ronaldo proper service and he will score!! That simple.
How can you be so sure that it's specifically because of Ronaldo and not because of the entire team playing poorly?It's harsh to blame him for their form but I find it hard to believe anyone can say with a straight face that Bruno hasn't been affected by Ronaldo's presence.
Bruno was the leading man in attack before Ronaldo's return. He's simply lost that panache he possessed in bundles before this season. Even in times when Bruno's form dropped (and he had prolonged stretches of bad form before Ronaldo's arrival) he always tried to grab games by the scruff of the neck and that's not what we've seen since Ronaldo's arrival.
Further more, Bruno has had to cede penalty and freekick duties to Ronaldo even though he has a much, much better conversation rate for both than Ronaldo does. Bruno's only penalty this season if I'm correct was the miss against Villa while Solskjaer was still in charge. Bruno and Ronaldo have also failed to forge an effective partnership at national team level. No one can tell me this doesn't affect his confidence
That's not really true. He has missed some gilt edged chances. He should've scored against Southampton (rounded the keeper hit a tame shot that got stopped on the line), Leeds (hit the keeper from Pogba's square), Watford (hit Elanga with the goal gaping), I could go on.For once, sense. No striker in the world would have scored more for us with the way the team around him has played all season.